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Old 07-07-2011, 10:11 AM   #7036
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Dealer emailed me to tell my Tigger is IN

Hopefully pick it up Saturday...let the farkling begin
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:29 AM   #7037
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Pre-detonation of the fuel. Can be caused by incorrect ignition timing, wrong spark plugs, poor quality / low octane fuel, too high compression, etc. Basically, the fuel starts to burn before it's been ignited by the spark plug. Depending on severity, it sounds like a rattle from the top of the engine.

Wow, thanks for the serious responses to my somewhat tongue-in-cheek post. I seriously thought it was a typo in the Triumph manual... I had no idea it was another way of describing a "Ping or Knock". Kind of like my Aussie friend mentioning he recently crashed on the bitumen.

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Old 07-07-2011, 12:57 PM   #7038
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Idling problems

For everyone with idling problems... don't know if anyone has already mentioned it here before, but just in case, it seems to be somewhat of a common problem.

Check this thread on the Tiger 800 forum for more info:
http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,1083.0.html

There are two other threads similar to this one on the Tiger 800 forum.

Hope this helps.
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:12 PM   #7039
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Does 1st Service cause engine stalling?

I recently used 93octane in my tiger, noticed the engine was running as happy as before. Switched back to 87. Its running better now but its time for the first service. I dont want to give it to the dealer because from my understanding they remap the fueling during this service, and then you get a stalling issue? Is my assumption correct?
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:35 PM   #7040
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I recently used 93octane in my tiger, noticed the engine was running as happy as before. Switched back to 87. Its running better now but its time for the first service. I dont want to give it to the dealer because from my understanding they remap the fueling during this service, and then you get a stalling issue? Is my assumption correct?

No ... You either have the issues or you don't. No one is quite sure why yet.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:23 PM   #7041
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I recently used 93octane in my tiger, noticed the engine was running as happy as before. Switched back to 87. Its running better now but its time for the first service. I dont want to give it to the dealer because from my understanding they remap the fueling during this service, and then you get a stalling issue? Is my assumption correct?
There would be no need to load a new map at the first service unless the current map in the ECU is outdated/obsolete. Even so, by most/all accounts, the new map is better and corrected some stalling issues that some people were having early on.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:27 PM   #7042
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TwistedThrottle FINALLY has the SW_Motech alu top rack in!

Unfortunately during the delay I decided to go with Hepco & Becker so I can replace the crappy Five Stars rack on my W650 (which mounts Givi) with a Hepco & Becker rack (really the only other option for the W650). So I decided to go with the Hepco & Becker alu top rack for the Tiger 800 because a) it was available, b) it can mount the HB top case without an adapter and c) I'll be able to swap the top case from bike to bike. Thankfully I got the shipment notice from amotostuff today for the rack and top case.

STILL waiting on those Motech quick-lock side racks that I ordered back in May.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:44 PM   #7043
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STILL waiting on those Motech quick-lock side racks that I ordered back in May.
You're not the only one. My Micatech cases have been ready to ship but they've been waiting for the racks for a month now.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:31 PM   #7044
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STILL waiting on those Motech quick-lock side racks that I ordered back in May.
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You're not the only one. My Micatech cases have been ready to ship but they've been waiting for the racks for a month now.
I know Winding Roads in the UK have these in stock and ship to the US.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:27 AM   #7045
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STILL waiting on those Motech quick-lock side racks that I ordered back in May.
You mean one's like this?....


Sorry, I know that doesn't help but I thought you'd like proof that they do exist.
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:13 AM   #7046
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There would be no need to load a new map at the first service unless the current map in the ECU is outdated/obsolete. Even so, by most/all accounts, the new map is better and corrected some stalling issues that some people were having early on.
Yes the first service cured mine completely of this fault when a later map was installed. I have since had an even later map and it made it even smoother!
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:44 AM   #7047
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Prospective XC buyer has some questions...

It is becoming apparent that my 2010 Ducati Multistrada is not quite the bike for me (for various reasons I won't elaborate on now...). If the 800 XC had been available when I purchased the Multi I might well have gone that way.

Anyway...local dealer has a white XC in stock (my preferred color); I put about 50 miles on their demo XC yesterday, and was generally quite impressed. But there are a few issues that concern me:

1. The triple is awfully smooth, and has more than adequate power, but it seemed---to me---like it didn't have a whole lot of character, if you know what I mean. Of course it pales next to the 150 HP Ducati 1198, but I don't mean that. Probably I would rapidly get used to its wonderful linear behavior and smoothness.

2. Part of buying the XC now would be to allow me to still take a summer trip (I'm a professor, and by mid-August my summer is over). For this I need luggage. I'd prefer top-loading side cases plus a top case. From what I see these (and/or their mounting racks) are not in plentiful supply. Is this true?

3. Is pricing at all negotiable? On a bike this new and with this kind of demand, I'd guess not. Still, never hurts to ask... Of course, if I include any dealer-installed options (center stand, etc.) this is more likely to be negotiable.

4. Is a Factory Service Manual available? This looks like a bike on which I could perform virtually all service operations.

Overall, the XC really impressed me. Super stable thru the corners (21" front wheel), non-adjustable forks worked very well for my 145-lb weight, maybe just what I was looking for last spring.

Didn't have a chance to ride any dirt, but I'm confident that it would do better than I would! Most of my dirt riding is 2-track fire roads getting back to backcountry campgrounds, etc.

So thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:56 AM   #7048
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top loading luggage

Hello Dr Greg.

Hepco&Becker has side carriers for the Tiger's.

http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Montagean...07505.0001.pdf

You can mount all their side cases to them. including top loading one's.

http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/Produ...php?language=2

Now i think of it, SW-Motech and Touratech also make things like that.

http://shop.sw-motech.com/lshop,show...r800xc,,,,.htm

http://www.touratech.com/shops/011/i...14097c541a6f08

hope this helps...

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Old 07-08-2011, 09:02 AM   #7049
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There are also Jesse cases and there is a Triumph Service Manual (I wish BMW had something like that). Not sure whether the Service Manual is already available.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:02 AM   #7050
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it is becoming apparent that my 2010 ducati multistrada is not quite the bike for me (for various reasons i won't elaborate on now...). If the 800 xc had been available when i purchased the multi i might well have gone that way.

Anyway...local dealer has a white xc in stock (my preferred color); i put about 50 miles on their demo xc yesterday, and was generally quite impressed. But there are a few issues that concern me:

1. The triple is awfully smooth, and has more than adequate power, but it seemed---to me---like it didn't have a whole lot of character, if you know what i mean. Of course it pales next to the 150 hp ducati 1198, but i don't mean that. Probably i would rapidly get used to its wonderful linear behavior and smoothness.
if you want more 'character' get an after-market can so you can actually hear the engine.

2. Part of buying the xc now would be to allow me to still take a summer trip (i'm a professor, and by mid-august my summer is over). For this i need luggage. I'd prefer top-loading side cases plus a top case. From what i see these (and/or their mounting racks) are not in plentiful supply. Is this true?
they are available.

3. Is pricing at all negotiable? On a bike this new and with this kind of demand, i'd guess not. Still, never hurts to ask... Of course, if i include any dealer-installed options (center stand, etc.) this is more likely to be negotiable.
i got a small discount for paying cash.

4. Is a factory service manual available? This looks like a bike on which i could perform virtually all service operations.
i believe it is yes - i think the jerk has one

overall, the xc really impressed me. Super stable thru the corners (21" front wheel), non-adjustable forks worked very well for my 145-lb weight, maybe just what i was looking for last spring.

Didn't have a chance to ride any dirt, but i'm confident that it would do better than i would! Most of my dirt riding is 2-track fire roads getting back to backcountry campgrounds, etc.

so thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

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