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Old 07-11-2011, 02:46 PM   #7126
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OK, there is no avoiding reality: I'm a lazy bastard, I confess. I get going and I don't want to stop to air down tires, do it right making sure they are not too low, just the right air pressure.

On this small ride I was never out of control, but I was riding it at slower speeds than when I ride smaller bikes (I took it to a known road, where my WRR does the road in less than 5 minutes, the Dakar does it in 5 minutes flat, the Tiger did it in almost 7). Which is fine and makes sense considering this is a heavy bike. And if I would ever air the tires down, I would also slow down with the fear of hitting a rock round a bend or hitting a rock I can't avoid for one or another reason. Because hitting a rock on the wrong angle and chances are a tube is pinched or the rim is dented.

Therefore, slow I go. This bike is still fun at slow speeds, because you can better hear its nice engine note. At speeds the wind noise takes over...
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:23 PM   #7127
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A plug in elec. mini compressor makes airing up less a pain ... but pretty slow. Once you've seen a good trials rider do their routine ... you'll understand the value of low pressure tires (Trials riders run about 8 psi). Same principles apply to bigger bikes.
I've had really good luck with the $10 slime compressor from Wal mart. I put a battery tender harness on the battery of the bike. Then I cut the cigarette lighter plug off the slime cord and splice on the mating end of the battery tender plug to the slime cord. As simple as plug it in and it does the trick. No seat removal, cigarette/12V receptacle, or battery access required. It has enough juice to pop the bead after a flat as well.

I had to do a tire change and the battlewings fit the rim really really tight. I'm not considering rim locks and I'll run 21 to 22 psi almost all the time. There is small lip on the iside of the bead that makes breaking it difficult. Much more so than my KLR. I made it all of 1200 miles before I had to fix a puncture trail side. Make sure you have good irons and patience!!
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:51 PM   #7128
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There would be no need to load a new map at the first service unless the current map in the ECU is outdated/obsolete. Even so, by most/all accounts, the new map is better and corrected some stalling issues that some people were having early on.
I took my bike in today for the first service. It had a minor rough idling issue but nothing major. They loaded the new map and right away it would stall ...to the point that it can't be ridden. Very frustrating...I showed up ready to ride it away and they said...yeh..it won't run...but we will contact Triumph tomorrow to see if they know of a way to fix it. The service guy said that this is the fourth XC he's seen with the same issue.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:02 PM   #7129
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I took my bike in today for the first service. It had a minor rough idling issue but nothing major. They loaded the new map and right away it would stall ...to the point that it can't be ridden. Very frustrating...I showed up ready to ride it away and they said...yeh..it won't run...but we will contact Triumph tomorrow to see if they know of a way to fix it. The service guy said that this is the fourth XC he's seen with the same issue.
Please keep us posted.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:02 PM   #7130
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Well that sucks.

Why not just have them reload the previous tune?
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:19 PM   #7131
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Solo ride just to get the feel

So I had a few hours to blow on Sunday so I thought I would do a little test ride to get familiar with the Tiger. I did a mix of terrain starting off with Tarmac.....No issues there. Next up was low/no maintenance roads basically dirt and rocks. Here is the question, first not a big deal but I know the centerstand slaps around off road, I can deal with that, but there was a steep section of rocks and mixed terrain as I went down the hill I pulled in the clutch and the bike would stall. It seems whenever I crack the throttle or feather the clutch it quits, just on this down hill. There seems to be a dead spot, right before the throttle engages. I mean right before. With the throttle so reponsive I did not want to keep giving it gas on the techinal section. Have anyone experience this? It seems like it idles low. It may be sometime I am not use it coming from a DRZ. Next was pure gravel roads, at first I was going slow and felt unstable, but like the the DRZ in sand a little speed and sliding back in the saddle and the ride was great. I kept it around 45 -50 mph all day no problems. My main objective was to empty the gas tank so a can install my fog lights and heated grips. Mission accomplished...Came home with no gas and had a great ride. Also was able to do the install on the lights and the grips. Ready to get out a ride some more.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:26 PM   #7132
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I smell ECU recall ... perhaps? Seems to be quite a few Tigers exhibit this "stalling after 600 mile service/new tune". Maybe a bad batch of electronics from Keihin?
Would be rare ... but possible I guess, considering the numbers involved. Must be half a dozen or so here on this thread ... probably more out in the world. Let's see how Triumph handle this. Good luck sorting this guys!
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:32 PM   #7133
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OK, there is no avoiding reality: I'm a lazy bastard, I confess. I get going and I don't want to stop to air down tires, do it right making sure they are not too low, just the right air pressure.

Psst....Lion BR.... We do the same thing on our bikes! The tire pressure is what it is. Sucks when you get into sandy conditions with the stock Battlewings, but it builds character, right?

Besides, sometimes sections of gravel or dirt are only a mile or three long. No point in airing down for a short section, so why bother with a longer section?! We even keep Slime compressors on the bikes, but can't be bothered to take the extra time to air down and then back up.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:28 PM   #7134
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Psst....Lion BR.... We do the same thing on our bikes! The tire pressure is what it is. Sucks when you get into sandy conditions with the stock Battlewings, but it builds character, right?

Besides, sometimes sections of gravel or dirt are only a mile or three long. No point in airing down for a short section, so why bother with a longer section?! We even keep Slime compressors on the bikes, but can't be bothered to take the extra time to air down and then back up.

Thank you Lori, it is great to have company on this side of the equation. On all my several years of riding on dirt, only on one trip I lowered the tire pressure, due to peer pressure (pun intended). Only that one time. And I was going fast on a double track, following on someone's dust and I did not see a rock... probably 5 inches tall with a sharp edge... got it right on the middle of it and bent a rim. Never again. I've hit many rocks like that or larger, with full air pressure, and not a dent on rims.

Like you said... sliding around builds character.
And it is more fun too.
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:09 PM   #7135
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i have a rough idle too. Due to other inmates woes with the new maps, I kept quiet at first service. I got a handwritten note of what was done and it looks like a 2 hour, very expensive oil change. Luckily they charged me for a full first service without doing most of the things on the first service list -go figure. Anyway they didn't touch the map and the bike runs fine. I got away lucky.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:45 AM   #7136
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:51 AM   #7137
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Is there a consensus on what are the best engine bars ? I like the look of the SW Motech ones since they seem to be beefier than the Triumph ones and they look like they'll protect the radiator a little better.

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Old 07-12-2011, 06:03 AM   #7138
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Is there a consensus on what are the best engine bars ? I like the look of the SW Motech ones since they seem to be beefier than the Triumph ones and they look like they'll protect the radiator a little better.

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Don't forget to check out the Hepco & Becker bars - they have a separate engine bar and tank protection bar.

Look pretty nice. No doubt there are others out there as well.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:07 AM   #7139
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Don't forget to check out the Hepco & Becker bars - they have a separate engine bar and tank protection bar.

Look pretty nice. No doubt there are others out there as well.
Just looking at the H&B tank guard and I don't think you can use it and the Triumph accessory lights together. Either or
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:12 AM   #7140
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Don't forget to check out the Hepco & Becker bars - they have a separate engine bar and tank protection bar.

Look pretty nice. No doubt there are others out there as well.
Thanks, another to add to the mix.
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