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Old 07-12-2011, 08:58 AM   #7156
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I do like the look of those guards. I've never bought bars like this before, does H&B have a good rep do you know ?
Thanks to a truck trying to kill me, I bounced mine off a Toyota and they held up really well on my BMW. Very beefy bars and well coated. I'd buy HB stuff again in a heartbeat.

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:34 AM   #7157
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Well, that puts that one to bed.

I still think it's the chain slapping the plastic swingarm guards but it'll be difficult to prove since we can't ride without a chain.
I now agree that it's chain slap. I've been one of the chronic complainers of clacking when riding off road. I have the Triumph centerstand, it fits and works great. I do have a small strap that I tie it up with for piece of mind but I don't think it's actually causing any noise. I spent a bunch of time riding up and down the lane to my house with no helmet and leaned over the bike. I could ride with my hand on the centerstand and sidestand and confirmed that they are not the noise-makers. While leaned over, it does look like it's the chain. Just flicking the chain in the shop you can hear that it would clack pretty loud against the slider. Triumph has a pretty complex looking multi-piece chain slider on there that I would have guessed was designed to quiet the chain noise... doesn't seem like it works to me.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:48 AM   #7158
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ECU tunes and stalling

I'm watching all the post on the stalling issues closely, that's really too bad that it does seem to be growing into more than just a very random problem and there isn't a clear cause or cure. Also interesting that none of the mag or 'net tests ever mentioned getting a bike exhibiting any of the issues.

My '11 800XC-ABS has ran well from day one luckily. At around 800 miles I put on the Arrow pipe and had that map installed.

FWIW, I did have the bike die unexplainably very early on, migh have had 100 miles on it. Pulled clutch in for a stop and it just died. That's only happened once. I've also had it stall maybe twice when doing a U-turn or something while slipping the clutch and "blipping" the throttle a little, like you would a two stroke... it doesn't seem to like that much. Like others have said, to me the idle is a bit on the rough side compared to the overall smoothness of the engine.

Regarding throttle response. When the bike had the stock pipe and original map, I agree, it was borderline twitchy. For me, the Arrow pipe and map really softened the response. I was actually a little put off by the softness of the response down low with the Arrow pipe/map and strongly considered going back to stock... however, after riding the bike off road with the pipe and map, it really worked well, so planning to leave it, at least for now.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:53 AM   #7159
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I do like the look of those guards. I've never bought bars like this before, does H&B have a good rep do you know ?
I hope they are good, as I have a set on order for my bike.
I havent heard anything bad about H&B and usually, anything from Germany has to pass a lot of TUV (approval) tests and is generally pretty good.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:52 AM   #7160
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Another source of clacking (It was a big deal in Parallel universe) are the brake rotors. They are two piece with rivets holding the outer to the inners. They are designed to flex, but some can be noisy until the rivets get filled with dirt and grime. To test the theory some inmates even zipped tied the rotors at the connecting point and their noise went away.
Just shows how anal we can be
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:57 PM   #7161
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Another source of clacking (It was a big deal in Parallel universe) are the brake rotors. They are two piece with rivets holding the outer to the inners. They are designed to flex, but some can be noisy until the rivets get filled with dirt and grime. To test the theory some inmates even zipped tied the rotors at the connecting point and their noise went away.
Just shows how anal we can be
Is this what I'm feeling? I discover this when I forgot to use any rear brake. When I'm rolling to a stop, say 5 or 10mph and I apply enough brake for the nose to dive, I hear a clank and feel a moderate thump on the bars.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:31 PM   #7162
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Is this what I'm feeling? I discover this when I forgot to use any rear brake. When I'm rolling to a stop, say 5 or 10mph and I apply enough brake for the nose to dive, I hear a clank and feel a moderate thump on the bars.
I don't think that's what that is... other's have complained of a similar symptom and a few have made head bearing adjustments to fix. Early on, mine did it but hasn't lately. I've checked the head bearings once I got the centerstand put on it and they feel fine doing the fork shake test. One inmate noted that to fix his, they had to put a washer under the nut on top of the top triple clamp (it currently does not have one there).
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:02 PM   #7163
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Is this what I'm feeling? I discover this when I forgot to use any rear brake. When I'm rolling to a stop, say 5 or 10mph and I apply enough brake for the nose to dive, I hear a clank and feel a moderate thump on the bars.
Mine does this as well.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:24 PM   #7164
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Picked up the bike today. Dealer said they adjusted the throttle bodies and fixed it. Riding the bike I'm now finding that there is an occasional hesitation off idle and the fuel economy has dropped. Before the service I was getting a fuel economy reading of 3.8 to 4 liters per hundred kilometers at a steady 100 km/h. That has now increased to about 4.5 liters per 100 km/h. I'll ask them to adjust it again when I take it in to get the heated grips installed.

I wish they had just friggin left it alone. It ran better and got better gas mileage before the first "Mandatory" service.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:52 PM   #7165
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Is this what I'm feeling? I discover this when I forgot to use any rear brake. When I'm rolling to a stop, say 5 or 10mph and I apply enough brake for the nose to dive, I hear a clank and feel a moderate thump on the bars.
Same issue for 6900 miles here. Today I had the dealer adjust the headstock and it's fixed :)! The dads bike is doing the same thing as well. I suspected the rotors as well but it was not it.

Edit: I could not feel any play with the forks in the air before the adjustment.
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:47 PM   #7166
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Is there a way to search just THIS thread ? Lots of good info in here but boy it's long...
Go to google or bing, and use the following search query:

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It's less than perfect, but 599070 is the thread number, site:advrider.com limits results to this board, and replace "search terms" with what you want to search for. Here is an example:

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:14 PM   #7167
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Does anyone make a replacement shock for the non-XC yet? The stock one has way, way too much rebound damping and no adjustments. I can push down on the rear and it takes 15 seconds for it to come back up!

Has anyone worked on the forks yet? The shock is so bad that you can't tell what the forks are doing.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:20 AM   #7168
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I have had the forks of my roadie apart a few times (almost 10 I reckon) trying to sort out a bouncing issue that the dealer now tells me is caused by "the little waves in the road".
Swapping oils (I've tried 5, 7.5, 10[stock] and 15w) and springs (i've had stock and 0.95kg.mm in there) does bring about some changes and IMO the 5w oil in the front is a pretty good compromise. I've not pulled the cart out of the front but suspect it will be standard showa kinda stuff.
Maybe there is something in a swap of rear shock or at least a valving/oil viscosity change in the bum
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:51 AM   #7169
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For rear shock, check with Jay @ www.sasquatchrider.com 208-9682112. Have one soon for XC - not sure about non XC model. j
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:30 AM   #7170
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I took my bike in today for the first service. It had a minor rough idling issue but nothing major. They loaded the new map and right away it would stall ...to the point that it can't be ridden. Very frustrating...I showed up ready to ride it away and they said...yeh..it won't run...but we will contact Triumph tomorrow to see if they know of a way to fix it. The service guy said that this is the fourth XC he's seen with the same issue.
Mine has the same issue as well. It's been in the shop for 8 days now. Still not fixed. Last I heard, they had the throttle bodies off looking for air leaks. None were found. The shop is "waiting on Triumph"...

Sorry to hear others are having the same problems. Not good!
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