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Old 07-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #7231
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Picked up the bike today. Dealer said they adjusted the throttle bodies and fixed it. Riding the bike I'm now finding that there is an occasional hesitation off idle and the fuel economy has dropped. Before the service I was getting a fuel economy reading of 3.8 to 4 liters per hundred kilometers at a steady 100 km/h. That has now increased to about 4.5 liters per 100 km/h. I'll ask them to adjust it again when I take it in to get the heated grips installed.

I wish they had just friggin left it alone. It ran better and got better gas mileage before the first "Mandatory" service.
How is the adjustment holding for you? My 2012 Tiger XC is getting a new throttle body assembly some time next week because the throttle position sensor would not stay in adjustment.

My new XC with less that 800 miles on it will have been in the shop for about half the time I have owned it, if they replace the throttle body assembly and get it back to me next week...

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Old 07-14-2011, 03:05 PM   #7232
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It's unfortunate to anyone experiencing this, but this sort of thing is why I've decided to wait for the Gen 2 XCs .......

G.

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I was just too pumped to wait. The irony is, I waited for 13 weeks to get mine. Now I'm on week 2 of it being in the shop, and I'm not able to ride it. If all goes well, I'll get it back after week 3. Hopefully it is fixed. I'm concerned....

I've owned 4 Triumphs in this century. 3 were exceptional motorcycles with no problems to really speak of. I've owned my 4th (2012 Tiger XC) for about 6 weeks now, less than 800 miles, makes me glad to have a 2 year warranty...
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:21 PM   #7233
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It's unfortunate to anyone experiencing this, but this sort of thing is why I've decided to wait for the Gen 2 XCs .......
It's the nature of Internet forums that problems always get a disproportionate amount of publicity. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Tiger 800s are having issues, but since we don't have access to that kind of data, the best we can do is have satisfied owners post up their own experiences.

I'll start: I got one of the first ABS XCs delivered in the US, and it's been flawless for 9100 miles now.

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Old 07-14-2011, 03:42 PM   #7234
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Nice vid, Lion.

So what's your impression of its handling on fire roads?

G.

Hey G.!
The bike is great. What I've learned from two incursions on gravel roads so far is that dirt is not going to stop me if I happen to be riding the Tiger and a gravel road is included on my route to somewhere. It is a heavy bike and it shows it. But it does the job very well, considering its size. But I really like it on paved roads. That's where this bike is really fun, in my humble opinion, of course! I would like to say the front suspension is dialed for my liking for both on and off road.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:44 PM   #7235
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Thanks again.
Just one more friendly note about the Fuel exhaust. If you order it from the states, be sure to tell your bank you bought something from overseas cause they will probably put a flag on your card for fraud! Ask me how I know!
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:02 PM   #7236
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It's the nature of Internet forums that problems always get a disproportionate amount of publicity. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Tiger 800s are having issues, but since we don't have access to that kind of data, the best we can do is have satisfied owners post up their own experiences.

I'll start: I got one of the first ABS XCs delivered in the US, and it's been flawless for 9100 miles now.

--mark
On the UK forum there are three threads about this. The largest one was 14 pages long three days ago, when I checked it for the last time. I'm summarizing that information, as I have a similar problem with mine (not as bad as I hear from others). Up to page 6 of that forum I already extracted and compiled to a word document 22 separate accounts of the same problem. So it is really a common problem.

It seems that not all dealers know how to really take care of it yet. This bike is obviously all new. Updated ECUTunes have not taken care of the problem on all cases, but it is difficult to tell if that was done right. I believe some dealers have updated bikes with the wrong model tune (there are four bikes with four separate maps: 800, 800ABS, XC, XC ABS), and you note that when, for example, an XC shows up on the dash with a TPS command after a Tune change. The people who have installed the Arrow map (with or without the exhaust) have indicated problem is resolved, albeit with a +/-3mpg penalty on fuel consumption.

Throttle position sensor was mentioned as a culprit. In some cases throttle bodies were mentioned as a problem source as well.

From what I read, it seems the bikes are dialed in for a lean mixture and that is the real source of the problem, especially when the motor is warm and the ambient temperature is is hot. In my bike it has become very predictable, so I know exactly what to do to prevent it from stalling. In my case, it will only stall when all these factors happen together: a long idle period, it is hot out and the motor is fully warm, the idle lowers and my action to make it to stall is to blip the throttle.

I would assume new Tunes are being revised and will be available. I plan to add an after market exhaust, so I'm on a wait and see at the moment in terms of course of action.

Another solution will certainly come from a booster plug type of product. I'm sure someone is going to develop something sooner or later - they are really simple plug in gadgets. They operate by creating a distortion on ambient temperature read out by the bike sensor that is a few degrees below what is the real temperature, hence forcing the bike to run slightly richer.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:14 PM   #7237
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It's the nature of Internet forums that problems always get a disproportionate amount of publicity. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Tiger 800s are having issues, but since we don't have access to that kind of data, the best we can do is have satisfied owners post up their own experiences.

I'll start: I got one of the first ABS XCs delivered in the US, and it's been flawless for 9100 miles now.

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Old 07-14-2011, 04:34 PM   #7238
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...I got one of the first ABS XCs delivered in the US, and it's been flawless for 9100 miles now.

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My Orange XC ABS has been perfect - 5,100 miles so far.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:09 PM   #7239
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Good move.



I was just too pumped to wait. The irony is, I waited for 13 weeks to get mine. Now I'm on week 2 of it being in the shop, and I'm not able to ride it. If all goes well, I'll get it back after week 3. Hopefully it is fixed. I'm concerned....

I've owned 4 Triumphs in this century. 3 were exceptional motorcycles with no problems to really speak of. I've owned my 4th (2012 Tiger XC) for about 6 weeks now, less than 800 miles, makes me glad to have a 2 year warranty...
Maybe they really did copy the BMW?
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:27 PM   #7240
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Just one more friendly note about the Fuel exhaust. If you order it from the states, be sure to tell your bank you bought something from overseas cause they will probably put a flag on your card for fraud! Ask me how I know!
Thanks....but I guess it depends where you're credit card is issued
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:29 PM   #7241
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:32 PM   #7242
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:55 PM   #7243
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I've had the stalling issue, started around the first 100 miles. First service and updated tunes didn't help. Documented all this a few pages back, with video. After almost 4 weeks in the shop, they replaced the throttle body. Have only taken it for a 30 minute ride since getting it back this week. Everything seems fine. Will put on some miles this weekend and will report back. Hoping the problem is corrected because I absolutely love this bike and just want to ride!
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Old 07-14-2011, 06:22 PM   #7244
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Hey G.!
The bike is great. What I've learned from two incursions on gravel roads so far is that dirt is not going to stop me if I happen to be riding the Tiger and a gravel road is included on my route to somewhere. It is a heavy bike and it shows it. But it does the job very well, considering its size. But I really like it on paved roads. That's where this bike is really fun, in my humble opinion, of course! I would like to say the front suspension is dialed for my liking for both on and off road.
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Nice .......

I've been doing some further research and checking reviews, that - I'm sure - most everyone in this thread knows - but the XC is lighter than the 800gs, wet. Though of course from all the reviews, it seems that it's;

The 800gs is a "dirt" based bike that can do paved duties.
The 800xc is a more "street" based bike that can do dirt duties.

Would you agree with that ?????? Just curious.

Cheers .....

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Old 07-14-2011, 07:17 PM   #7245
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