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07-15-2011, 10:54 AM   #7276
Lion BR
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Location: Oregon
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by davevv Production this year was supposed to be increased to 7500 bikes instead of the original target of 5000. For the sake of argument, let's say only half of those have been sold and are in service. If that's true, 32 is still less than 1% of 3750 bikes sold. That's a pretty small number. Yes, it sucks for someone who owns one, but I'm sure Triumph will get it ironed out.
Thanks for the math. Since you bring it up, let's review your math... what grade would you get from your homework assignment?

The denominator is different then what you suggested, since I mentioned here that I'm only gathering these data from one forum. So that is not about all bikes sold. That forum in question has 1,629 people subscribed to it. Of those, not all of them have a Tiger 800 (when I subscribed to it I did not have my bike). So the denominator, the number of potential people who could be reporting a stalling problem in that forum is even a smaller amount than 1,629.

And the nominator is larger, because not everyone has reported their problems in there (my bike is not in that tally, for example, and I'm one of the 1,629). And I'm only past half way through ONE of THREE threads on this issue, so likely that number should go up. Furthermore, if you read it, some bikes did not develop the problem until later on, as in above 3K miles. So others could be added to that list.

If the denominator becomes a smaller number and the nominator becomes a larger number, what happens to the rate of incidents reported? The starting point is already more than double what your math had indicated.

I talked to my dealer today and he has heard of the issue. He thinks it is related to old versions of the ecutune in some bikes.

I'm not trying to make the problem larger than what it possibly is. I'm just pointing out that it is a common, known issue.

Lion
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 07-15-2011, 11:18 AM #7277 davevv One more old rider   Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Just north of Dallas Oddometer: 2,277 __________________ "Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything"--Wyatt Earp '13 Yamaha Super Tenere. '04 Sportster XL1200R
07-15-2011, 11:26 AM   #7278
Lion BR
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by davevv
I knew you would understand it.
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07-15-2011, 11:28 AM   #7279
Sock Monkey
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Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA, Earth
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Lion BR I'm not trying to make the problem larger than what it possibly is. I'm just pointing out that it is a common, known issue. Lion
Just to add some perspective (note I'm not "for" or "against" either side of this issue....), not everyone who owns a Tigger 800 posts on this (or any) board. In fact, I would argue that a small percentage of owners of ANY brand of motorcycle posts on boards.

At the end of the day, it sounds like dealers are becoming aware of the issue, and together with Triumph are working on nailing down the cause so they can put a definitive solution in place. At the risk of riling the BMW faithful, I would note that this response from Triumph and their dealers is a fair bit better than what the BMW F800 owners have had to endure (leaking heads, shoddy wheel bearings, holing pistons from low octane gas, etc). While I don't have a dog in this fight (yet), I say good on Triumph for working on it and not ignoring/denying it exists.

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 07-15-2011, 12:14 PM #7280 Mercury264 Once you go Triple...     Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Masshole Oddometer: 21,200 Going on my first road trip next week and so I wanted to mount my GPS. Here's how I did it: Cheers __________________ '12 Tiger 800XC '07 TE510 '02 Sprint ST '99 XR650L '99 Speed Triple
07-15-2011, 01:01 PM   #7281
ccrat
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Location: Airstrip One, Oceania
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Mercury264 Going on my first road trip next week and so I wanted to mount my GPS. Here's how I did it: Cheers
Simple, clean installation. Thanks for the detailed pics.
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 07-15-2011, 01:09 PM #7282 TallRob Beastly Adventurer     Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Agoura Hills ,Ca Oddometer: 1,393 Excellent placement. Good job.
 07-15-2011, 01:24 PM #7283 gkgeiger Every ride is an ADV     Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Akron, Ohio Oddometer: 536 Farkling nearly complete. I still need to install the Fenda Extenda. __________________ "If more is better, then two much must be just right" Gene '12 T100 110th Anniversary '12 NC700X/D '08 TW200
 07-15-2011, 01:33 PM #7284 PaulSF Gnarly Adventurer   Joined: Aug 2009 Oddometer: 147 That looks like one cushy seat!
07-15-2011, 01:50 PM   #7285
Lion BR
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Location: Oregon
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by gkgeiger Farkling nearly complete. I still need to install the Fenda Extenda.
That's one heck of large screen. Can one assume no turbulence?
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07-15-2011, 02:02 PM   #7286
gkgeiger

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Location: Akron, Ohio
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by PaulSF That looks like one cushy seat!
I hope so, haven't ridden it yet. Just arrived today. I broke my tail bone several years ago and I can't ride on any stock seat.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Lion BR That's one heck of large screen. Can one assume no turbulence?
Yes, no turbulence and very quiet air. I can almost ride without ear plugs. By the way it's a Givi.
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07-15-2011, 02:32 PM   #7287
ssevy

Joined: Mar 2009
Oddometer: 678
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Strada Me neither but a topbox is useful for storing a lid whilst travelling around. I'm thinking of adding a pelican 1550 on the non-exhaust side of the bike. The Triumph panniers make the bike far too wide if you need to filter and also add huge drag on the bike. I've also added a pillion seat rack to carry the bulk of the luggage and keeps the bike well balanced.
I'll bet that artillery piece you've mounted on the back keeps the tailgaters at bay!

07-15-2011, 05:56 PM   #7288
G-Funk
That ... Umm ..... "Dude"

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Location: Pacific Northwest
Oddometer: 5,259
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Strada Me neither but a topbox is useful for storing a lid whilst travelling around. I'm thinking of adding a pelican 1550 on the non-exhaust side of the bike. The Triumph panniers make the bike far too wide ..........
As wide as this ?!?!?!?!?!?!

As for the Triumph cases, if they were top opening, instead of side opening, I'd be all over them for when I get my 800xc. As it is, I seriously dislike (seriously) side opening cases

What I get remains to be seen, well, not really. A GL Great Basin bag. Between my 640adv, my AT, and when I get my XC, I could mount the bag on any of the bikes. For a multi day off-road excursion, IMO - soft luggage is the way to go. Specially a system that straps down so nicely.

For a multi day pavement / hotel excursion, you could still use it, and just take it off and bring it into the hotel room with you, so it's secured.

It's the daily commuting thing - IMHO - that's where lockable hard luggage really matters. And if you need to pick up a number of staples from the grocery store on the way home, I just feel that top opening cases are just much better.

Not really very enlightening I know - but I guess what I'm trying to say is that in a commuting scenario, I don't think it matters too much about how wide the bike is with its panniers.

I'll be quiet now ......

G.
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07-15-2011, 07:18 PM   #7289
jimjim
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Joined: Feb 2010
Location: oHIo
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by gkgeiger Farkling nearly complete. I still need to install the Fenda Extenda.
What seat is that?

07-15-2011, 07:35 PM   #7290
wanderlost

Joined: Oct 2007
Oddometer: 155
Quote:
 Originally Posted by gkgeiger Farkling nearly complete. I still need to install the Fenda Extenda.

What brand of seat is that??

Paul

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