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Old 07-19-2011, 06:20 AM   #7291
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For the sake of complete accuracy.......they are 95Ps ("Pferdestärke" [metric system], German translation of Horse power) which equates to 94bhp (brake horse power). Blame the unelected idiots in Brussels for all this confusion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
BT - what's the scoop on the 95 limit - is it some ECC (fecking retards) thing ? Is it due to some tiered licensing sort of thing ? I know there was a reason Triumph kept it below 95 and I always assumed it was down to some legislation....
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:52 AM   #7292
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France has a legal limit of 106HP if I recall correctly.

Also, there was a long time manufacturer self imposed 100PS limit in Germany, not legally enforced. Lots of motorcycles had 98PS though as it was much cheaper in insurance than 100.

I bet the 95HP is a value to stay under a big jump in insurance cost.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:28 AM   #7293
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France has a legal limit of 106HP if I recall correctly.

Also, there was a long time manufacturer self imposed 100PS limit in Germany, not legally enforced. Lots of motorcycles had 98PS though as it was much cheaper in insurance than 100.

I bet the 95HP is a value to stay under a big jump in insurance cost.
This conversation reminds me of a story I've heard from the prohibition times here in the US. The story goes that certain grape juice producers (former wine makes) sold their juice with a warning:
If you add :
1½ cups of sugar
¼ teaspoon of wine yeast
¾ cup of warm (not hot) water
To a gallon of grape juice,
You may turn it into wine, which is prohibited.


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Old 07-19-2011, 01:13 PM   #7294
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I picked up the xc today. The Uly had one last ride anyway. I will never complain about the fun I had with the Uly.



I didn't have a clue how to set up the display for the ride home. Had time display for the trip only. It really didn't matter.
This is going to be a great ride.


Now I have to figure out the pannier racks and top case mounting.

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Old 07-19-2011, 01:31 PM   #7295
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I'd love to hear your impressions of one versus the other. Especially in terms of seat height/comfort.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:38 PM   #7296
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Thanks. But since there is a bit of an oval shape to the outside of the clamps, will a round 1 1/8 work ok? I'm hope it will. I'm gonna head to the accessory shop on Wednesday and check out some with the bike there to try them on for size. I'll report back.


Just tweak the bend to fit, they work just fine.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:58 PM   #7297
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Side bags and racks

Hey Neparider, don't get in a hurry on those bags. I drop my 800XC off with Al Jesse (Jesse Luggage Systems) this Sunday as a mock up bike for some new products. I asked for some narrower bags. He indicated he had some other things on the drawing board. He said it with be ready in 7 - 10 days. Boy do I like this bike. 7 hours from Las Cruces to Phoenix area, still ready for more. Comfy seat 50 - 55 mpg @ 80 mph.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:24 PM   #7298
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Midpack - Any idea how long before Jessie will go public with his 'drawing board" ? Would love to see what he's got in mind. j
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:26 PM   #7299
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Just tweak the bend to fit, they work just fine.
Spot on! I've had to bend and tweak just about every bark buster set up I've done on many different dirt bikes. Those look good!
Good clearance yet protection for brake reservoir. Nice!
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:59 PM   #7300
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Spot on! I've had to bend and tweak just about every bark buster set up I've done on many different dirt bikes. Those look good!
Good clearance yet protection for brake reservoir. Nice!
I detest installing bark busters
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:32 PM   #7301
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My 2012 Triumph Tiger XC is still in the shop. I dropped it off for it's 500 mile service on July 5, 2011. I took delivery June 17, 2011. The last time I got to ride it (other than riding it to the shop) was June 25, 2011.



I know there are many of you here that don't care to read this. There's been speculation about the percentage of bikes sold vs the owners posting on forums and the notion of forum posters only posting about problems with their bikes. There's some truth to that. What strikes me is that there are many with this sort of issue with their brand new Triumph Tiger 800's. I'm not alone with this issue although that does not give me comfort. Given that this is a great forum to discuss motorcycles, I'd like to continue to bring up issues with mine.

Some of you have paid attention to my posts. I appreciate that. Some of you may be reading this for the first time. The cliff notes are that I took my bike in for the 500 mile service, mentioned that the idle seemed to stick around 2k rpms intermittently and asked the dealer to look into that. Other than that the bike seemed great.

The Update:

I spoke to the owner of Erico Motorsports, where I purchased the bike but did not take it to for this service, today. If you are curious why I did not take it there look further back into this thread. To his credit, which I appreciate, he is trying to help. But there isn't much he can do with the bike in the local competitor's shop. I don't know if his shop would have been better this time around but that is not the point at this time. He told me that he has had one other Tiger 800 in his shop with what sounds to him to be the same problem. He can't be entirely sure because his shop has not seen my bike. He told me that his lead Triumph tech had a solution to this problem: A temporary solution until Triumph figures out a permanent one. Not sure what that means but it raises an eyebrow. I don't know for sure how many new TIGER 800'S Erico has sold but I would guess it to be around 6 as of this posting. I know they had 3 come in on order before mine. Of the estimated 6 that they have sold, 2 have had problems that have been brought to his attention. That's potentially one third of their sales.

I got a call from Foothills BMW Triumph, where my bike is being serviced, last Thursday with an update. Triumph has determined by way of their ability to access my bike's ECU via the internet that it needs a new throttle body assembly. The throttle position sensor will not stay in adjustment and one other part that I can't remember is affected as well. All of these parts are grouped into the throttle body assembly and therefore, mine needs to be replaced. The service manager could not give me a date when the part would arrive. He said sometimes parts from the UK get caught up in customs and it takes longer to get them. Not sure what to think about that. It seems to me that Triumph could put the assembly into a box and FedEx or DHL the thing over night if they cared to.

They don't seem to care to.

I'm in a pickle and can't ride my motorcicle....
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:49 PM   #7302
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Triumph has determined by way of their ability to access my bike's ECU via the internet that it needs a new throttle body assembly.
I believe you're the second person I've read about Triumph saying this to that this is the solution. Good luck!!
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:13 PM   #7303
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:15 PM   #7304
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Just tweak the bend to fit, they work just fine.
Forgive me for being thick...but I need a bit more clarification please.

From your picture and the help of the Cycra website HERE, I have determined those are the standard Pro Bends. Not the CRM model. The Power Grip ends come with the bars and shield. The only remaining question is what part number U-clamps are those? The ones for the Nekken bars (1056-02)? I guess that would make sense, but stranger things have happened.

Got any more pics of how they look on the bike? Any issues with cables? How's the clearance between the bars, your fingers, and the levers?

Thanks for your patience with me. I really am quite mechanically inclined, but I am going to order them from the net for the best price and I wanna get it right the first time. Thanks!
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:40 PM   #7305
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Low sided the Tiger last Friday on the way to work. First time I've been down (had my motorcycle endorsement for 4+ years now).

It was basically a section of road that forces a U-turn. I have taken this road a hundred times and while I've noticed it can be slightly slick (lots of oily trucks as it's a necessary section of road to enter the highway), it was my fault for travelling slightly too fast and turning too aggressively.

I was going between 15 and 20 miles per hour and the crash was about as mild as a crash can be. I was turning, turning, and then sliding. I don't believe I touched the brakes or blipped the throttle, just applied too much (counter)steering. Not sure if the front or rear was lost first. I slid a few meters, the bike kept going straight across the road and "gently" bumped the opposite curb with its tires. I got up, picked the bike up, and went to work. My damage was a quarter sized abrasion on my arm and mildly poked my index finger. Wear your gear.

I foresee trouble for a lot of owners with the rear footpegs. The crash couldn't have been much gentler unless I wasn't moving at all and the rear left footpeg is tweaked slightly. The weld joint has slightly fractured the powder coating so that it's flaking a bit around the weld.

Other damage includes plastic abrasion, small crack in the plastic, left cover abrasion, clutch lever broken and clutch pedal abrasion, left front turn signal broken, the "friction plate" that keeps the rear footpeg locked in the up position broke so it won't stay up. Side stand, foot peg, bottom chain guard, left handlebar mirror and end slider abraded.

I'm replacing the turn signal and clutch lever. The rest I'll leave for now as a reminder to not be stupid.


Crashing sucks. There's nothing worse than seeing your wonderful bike sparking and skidding away from you. Photos here.


On the upside, my Micatech luggage shipped and will be here Thursday!
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