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Old 07-20-2011, 09:48 AM   #7366
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Acerbis mud flap mount

I really liked the Acerbis mud flap mod you guys have been doing so got one. Quick question before I jump into it... to get to the inside of the airbox/inner fender area where you mount the mud flap, will I need to take out anything more than the battery? Any other gotcha's in the install? I haven't really gotten very deep in the bike yet...
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:36 AM   #7367
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I really liked the Acerbis mud flap mod you guys have been doing so got one. Quick question before I jump into it... to get to the inside of the airbox/inner fender area where you mount the mud flap, will I need to take out anything more than the battery? Any other gotcha's in the install? I haven't really gotten very deep in the bike yet...

I have the mud flap sitting on my work bench to be installed too. I heard somebody say "Watch out for WIRES when you drill!" I wont be able to confirm on my one day off cause I'm going riding!!!
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:48 AM   #7368
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I think the jury is still out about what causes this problem. If it is the Keihin assembly, hopefully it is only a batch, like you say, because although some bikes have this problem right away, some bikes do not develop the problem until later on.
True, and some bikes don't. Coming up on 10,000 miles on mine, and never so much as a hint of the problem.

YMMV...

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Old 07-20-2011, 10:48 AM   #7369
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I have the mud flap sitting on my work bench to be installed too. I heard somebody say "Watch out for WIRES when you drill!" I wont be able to confirm on my one day off cause I'm going riding!!!
I have mine ready to install also so I'm curious about this too. It seems from a very very quick eyeball that you need to trim the flap to make it fit
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:05 PM   #7370
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I think the jury is still out about what causes this problem. If it is the Keihin assembly, hopefully it is only a batch, like you say, because although some bikes have this problem right away, some bikes do not develop the problem until later on.
I wonder if the tooling/manufacture of these parts had to move as a result of the tsunami and following nuclear disaster in Japan (I know some Keihin plants were impacted), and maybe the new plant doesn't have the same quality levels (yet) as the old one (different staff, different tooling, etc.).

I only suggest this because a throttle body is a REALLY odd part to be focusing on for a stalling issue, yet that seems to be where the focus is right now (both at the dealers and at Triumph corporate). It could also explain why the issue is somewhat random: Good parts from the "old" plant got into some bikes, and good parts from the new plant got into others. The rest of you got "suspect" parts.

I realize this is all just mental masturbation as it doesn't resolve the problems folks are having with their new toys, but it may help explain it.....

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Old 07-20-2011, 02:44 PM   #7371
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Romulux, crashin indeed sucks. At least you are ok. I'm wondering if the sidestand was to blame. I read a report on Hell For Leather how one of the authors crashed an 800 because of it digging in. Appearently the XC is a bit taller and probably not as issue. The standard model is a different story. Could it have dug in and caused your fall from grace? It didn't happen on the way to the airport after exiting west I94 did it? I'm orignially for Battle Creek and have made that trip to the airport where after exiting the interstate you have to turn right on a side street and then pull a U to get to the airport access road. Stupid road design.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:58 PM   #7372
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I wonder if the tooling/manufacture of these parts had to move as a result of the tsunami and following nuclear disaster in Japan (I know some Keihin plants were impacted), and maybe the new plant doesn't have the same quality levels (yet) as the old one (different staff, different tooling, etc.).

I only suggest this because a throttle body is a REALLY odd part to be focusing on for a stalling issue, yet that seems to be where the focus is right now (both at the dealers and at Triumph corporate). It could also explain why the issue is somewhat random: Good parts from the "old" plant got into some bikes, and good parts from the new plant got into others. The rest of you got "suspect" parts.
I think you make a very valid point. Interruption of production do to this massive disaster is likely to have carry on affects for years. A change of supplier or production interruption could easily be a source of trouble.

Many are saying the ECU says Keihin on it. But are you SURE it's made by Keihin? Last I checked they don't make electronic devices. Most Japanese bikes with F.I. have been using Mitsubishi ECU's. Both my Honda and 2 Vstroms had Mitsubishi units ... and ALL used Keihin F.I. systems.

Not that this is the problem ... but could be? Throttle bodies are pretty basic mechanically. They have a couple flappers controlled by servo motors from signals from the ECU and throttle cables. The TPS plays into this mix too.

If someone ever gets a chance to actually pull out the ECU, unplug it and look it over for a label, I'd be interested who makes it.

Has anyone with these problems tried unplugging the battery to re-set the ECU ... or the 15 minutes of idling some systems require to re-set the system? Just curious. Some KTM and BMW riders have had success doing this.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:04 PM   #7373
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Romulux, crashin indeed sucks. At least you are ok. I'm wondering if the sidestand was to blame. I read a report on Hell For Leather how one of the authors crashed an 800 because of it digging in. Appearently the XC is a bit taller and probably not as issue. The standard model is a different story. Could it have dug in and caused your fall from grace? It didn't happen on the way to the airport after exiting west I94 did it? I'm orignially for Battle Creek and have made that trip to the airport where after exiting the interstate you have to turn right on a side street and then pull a U to get to the airport access road. Stupid road design.
Hmmm...interesting theory but I have no way of knowing. I'm much more inclined to believe it was entirely my fault. The ride to work isn't that long, so tires (which aren't sport tires) weren't sufficiently warm, air temperature was in the 60s so the road wasn't warm, and the edges of my tires are like-new. You can see the edges of the tire surfaces look like they're scuffed where I believe they initiated the slide.

As to location, you're exactly right, which is uncanny. Exiting I-94 you cross Portage Road on Kilgore (not allowed to make left turns at the Portage/Kilgore intersection), do a U-turn to travel the opposite direction on Kilgore, then turn right onto Portage which takes you to the airport.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:07 PM   #7374
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I've read on numerous occasions that you guys in the US fix your own bikes after a spill like this. Is there a reason that you don't claim on your insurance especially in view that the frame might be bent?
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It depends on the severity of the damage. American insurance companies generally view a claim for an accident that was your fault as a mark against your record regardless of size. In their eyes, its better to make one $10,000 claim than three $500 claims. Unfortunately if you make too many claims, you run the risk of cancellation or at least increased policy rates.

Lets say for example, you had a minor accident that did $1,000 in damage. Usually you will have a deductible of around $500 which diminishes your reimbursement. You then have to ask yourself do you want to possibly have your insurance rates raised for several years for a measely $500 check from them.
Exactly what he said.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:13 PM   #7375
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Sorry to hear about your low-side, glad you weren't seriously hurt and the damage is largely cosmetic... I was stoked to see my "cutting board" rear rack mod used by another inmate in your pics though

One positive on panniers or pannier racks is that they can act as crash guards for the rear (read: passenger peg mounts) of the bike.
Yeah, the cutting board works awesome! I asked earlier in this thread about how to mount the Givi and your posts were the perfect solution. $12 plus a few bolts and some time. I meant to post and show off my handiwork and thank you again for the idea.

I would have had racks on the bike if SW Motech had supplied the US with more of them earlier -- I ordered back in May and I'm receiving them this Thursday.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:28 PM   #7376
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Yeah, the cutting board works awesome! I asked earlier in this thread about how to mount the Givi and your posts were the perfect solution. $12 plus a few bolts and some time. I meant to post and show off my handiwork and thank you again for the idea.

I would have had racks on the bike if SW Motech had supplied the US with more of them earlier -- I ordered back in May and I'm receiving them this Thursday.
I must have been lucky, I ordered mine last week and it arrived today. That's a long time wait for something as vital as that.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:50 PM   #7377
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I really liked the Acerbis mud flap mod you guys have been doing so got one. Quick question before I jump into it... to get to the inside of the airbox/inner fender area where you mount the mud flap, will I need to take out anything more than the battery? Any other gotcha's in the install? I haven't really gotten very deep in the bike yet...
there is a plug with wires that I disconnected (just in case).......the battery is the biggest thing in the way. Just be careful when you drill, there is a whole bundle of wires on the bottom of the airbox/inner fender, (that I didn't mess with).
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:19 PM   #7378
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Just purchased the Racer kit from Cyclegear about $120, the Neken bars are very similar in bend to what KTM uses. Actually KTM uses Neken bars, bend & tweak them to fit. You'll need a spacer at each end, a couple washes will work, re-use the stock Triumph bolt. The mount up nice & tight, no problems with cables. I had to move the front brake hose up a little where it comes out of the master cylinder
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:18 PM   #7379
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Just purchased the Racer kit from Cyclegear about $120, the Neken bars are very similar in bend to what KTM uses. Actually KTM uses Neken bars, bend & tweak them to fit. You'll need a spacer at each end, a couple washes will work, re-use the stock Triumph bolt. The mount up nice & tight, no problems with cables. I had to move the front brake hose up a little where it comes out of the master cylinder
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:37 AM   #7380
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I have mine ready to install also so I'm curious about this too. It seems from a very very quick eyeball that you need to trim the flap to make it fit
Yes, I trimmed mine to the shape of the airbox as you can see in the photo comparing the clean and dirty bits.
Take the battery out and all will be revealed. I actually found it was beneficial to pull out the ECU as well.
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