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Old 08-01-2011, 05:46 PM   #7576
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I have the SW Motech bash plate fitted. While the charcoal canister was indeed a tight fit, I was able to move things around by hand with no problems.

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Old 08-01-2011, 05:50 PM   #7577
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I have the SW Motech bash plate fitted. While the charcoal canister was indeed a tight fit, I was able to move things around by hand with no problems.

Excellent, thanks for the photo. So you didn't have to re-locate the canister at all ?
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:53 PM   #7578
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I have the SW Motech bash plate fitted. While the charcoal canister was indeed a tight fit, I was able to move things around by hand with no problems.

Looks like that lip is made specifically to fit with the canister. The canister is kinda loosely and flexibly attached (secured thru a grommet at the front end and one screw at the rear) so one should be able to at least bend the bracket enough to make it fit with the bash plate.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:59 PM   #7579
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I fitted the SW Motech crash bars today. I was a little worried that it would not give the rads enough protection but as I think the pictures will show, I don't think it will be an issue. I will say the bars are very solid and I think they'll do just fine.











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Old 08-01-2011, 06:00 PM   #7580
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Looks like that lip is made specifically to fit with the canister. The canister is kinda loosely and flexibly attached (secured thru a grommet at the front end and one screw at the rear) so one should be able to at least bend the bracket enough to make it fit with the bash plate.
You may well be right, I just didn't want to force it unless I had to return the bash plate. I'll give it another go.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:03 PM   #7581
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You may well be right, I just didn't want to force it unless I had to return the bash plate. I'll give it another go.
I meant bend the canister bracket (cheap thin steel) not the bash plate.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:07 PM   #7582
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I meant bend the canister bracket (cheap thin steel) not the bash plate.
No, I understood your point, I just didn't want to do anything (scuff it etc.) the skid plate at all unless I had to return it. Now I know it will fit, I will break out the BFH
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:09 PM   #7583
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and what it sounds like when we tried to start it yesterday. Cheryl tweaked the throttle cable and no stalls after that for now.


One thing I just thought about (don't know why I didn't remember it before) - how do you turn the bike off ? I ask since there is/was an issue with Sprint's whereby if you turn it off using the kill switch, this can screw up the TPS when you next come to start the bike. I see you have tank bags and I know on my XRL I use the kill switch to turn the bike off when I have a tank bag since it's easier.

Just a thought....
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One thing I just thought about (don't know why I didn't remember it before) - how do you turn the bike off ? I ask since there is/was an issue with Sprint's whereby if you turn it off using the kill switch, this can screw up the TPS when you next come to start the bike. I see you have tank bags and I know on my XRL I use the kill switch to turn the bike off when I have a tank bag since it's easier.

Just a thought....
Interesting thought. Both FI Triumphs I've owned have had a statement in the owner's manual specifically stating that the kill switch should not be used to turn the engine off except in case of emergency. In normal use, the ignition switch should be used to stop the engine. The ECU does not get a proper shutdown if you use the kill switch to stop the engine - it's kind of analagous to pulling the plug on your computer instead of using the normal shutdown procedure.

I kind of doubt this would cause the issues that people are seeing (more likely I would just think that it would screw up the adaption) but you never know.
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Interesting thought. Both FI Triumphs I've owned have had a statement in the owner's manual specifically stating that the kill switch should not be used to turn the engine off except in case of emergency. In normal use, the ignition switch should be used to stop the engine. The ECU does not get a proper shutdown if you use the kill switch to stop the engine - it's kind of analagous to pulling the plug on your computer instead of using the normal shutdown procedure.

I kind of doubt this would cause the issues that people are seeing (more likely I would just think that it would screw up the adaption) but you never know.
I agree, I'm not convinced that's the issue here but I did want to throw it out there - it was seeing the video with the great big tank bag that jogged my memory. Using the kill switch on the XRL is not an issue since, well, the bike's technology is pre-historic
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:51 PM   #7586
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Finally got the bash plate to fit. I had to bend the lip that interferes with the canister about 1/4" to 1/2" to make it fit. I bent the bracket holding the canister as much as I could - there simply was no more physical room for the canister to fit into - it was tight pretty much against everything. There is no way on earth that bash plate would fit without bending that lip.

Oh well...done now
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I was just looking through the service manual regarding the discussion a page or two back about the stepper motor or idle speed control motor as they call it.

Here's what the service manual has to say about this part:

"Throttle stepper motor:
Situated between the throttle bodies of cylinders two and three. The throttle stepper actuates a cam/lever which causes variations in the closed throttle position. Although used primarily to ensure target idle speed is maintained, it also increases throttle opening when the engine is cold."

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Old 08-01-2011, 07:16 PM   #7588
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Finally got the bash plate to fit. I had to bend the lip that interferes with the canister about 1/4" to 1/2" to make it fit. I bent the bracket holding the canister as much as I could - there simply was no more physical room for the canister to fit into - it was tight pretty much against everything. There is no way on earth that bash plate would fit without bending that lip.

Oh well...done now
Wow! All I had to do was push the bottom of the canister in towards to bike. Didn't have to "bend" anything.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:21 PM   #7589
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Wow! All I had to do was push the bottom of the canister in towards to bike. Didn't have to "bend" anything.
Maybe they changed something - no way it was going to fit without bending the tab. I'll take a picture in the morning of how close it is.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:55 PM   #7590
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Maybe they changed something - no way it was going to fit without bending the tab. I'll take a picture in the morning of how close it is.
I just put my SW Motech plate on. Pretty obvious they didn't have a U.S. bike when they designed it. Didn't have to bend anything on the plate. I loosened the allen bolt at the rear of the canister to let it move as I put the plate on. If you didn't loosen that bolt, you might try that, there seems to be quite a bit of play around that hole in the bracket. The plate pushes the canister inboard, but nothing severe. Going to want to keep an eye on the nuts holding it on since I think the new plate is thicker and they all don't quite make it to the lock ring now on some of them.

If anyone is interested in the Triumph bash plate I just took off (about 2000 miles on it, nice gravel patina on it), PM me.
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