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Old 08-10-2011, 05:51 AM   #7831
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I have 40,000 miles on one T100 and 30,000 miles on a second T100. Neither has ever burned any oil. I have 1500 on my XC and it has not burned any oil. I follow a blend of the breakin procedure posted above and the factory recommendations. I increase rpm as the engine loosens up. I think the key is no constant speeds and no lugging.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:57 AM   #7832
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I have 40,000 miles on one T100 and 30,000 miles on a second T100. Neither has ever burned any oil. I have 1500 on my XC and it has not burned any oil. I follow a blend of the breakin procedure posted above and the factory recommendations. I increase rpm as the engine loosens up. I think the key is no constant speeds and no lugging.
Neither my Speed Triple (40K) or my Sprint (30K) user so much as a drop of oil between changes. I'm pretty sure design rule #1 for every new Triumph is 'Do NOT leak/use oil..."
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:20 AM   #7833
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I did the "Drive it like you stole it" break in procedure. I did the pussy mfg procedure on the KLR and it burns oil. It's a single so you'll have that. But I took a different approach to this new bike. Seems to be working out just fine after 2900 miles.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:17 AM   #7834
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I did the "Drive it like you stole it" break in procedure. I did the pussy mfg procedure on the KLR and it burns oil. It's a single so you'll have that. But I took a different approach to this new bike. Seems to be working out just fine after 2900 miles.
2009 KLR's had an issue with bad rings. My local dealer replaced mine free of charge. I actually had him install a Big Bore Kit and he did that with no labor charge.It wasn't your breakin process it was a mgf issue.

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:27 AM   #7835
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heat from the cat

Is there a full exhaust system w/o a cat available for the Tiger 800/800XC? Has anyone opened the cat and removed the guts?

I live in SW Florida and it's hot and humid this time of year, I'd like to reduce the heat on my lower legs and suspect much of it is coming from the cat.

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:30 AM   #7836
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I don't think brake-in is anywhere near as important as it used to be. I changed my oil at 200 miles & there was no sign of brake-in metal. Triumph had obviously run the motor at the factory & changed the oil. So, the method of riding hard for the first 20 miles was already screwed up.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:47 AM   #7837
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Ditto here. I only have about 1200 miles on the XC but no oil burning and no (knock wood) stalling. I am in the camp that believes any stalling is related to the stepper motor. Software doesn't change but mechanical bits can and do. I suspect any software change will be made to compensate for some glitch in the stepper. I had the 600 mile check done at the dealer and the bike ran as good after as when I took it in. I don't plan to take it back though unless I have a warranty problem since I try and do all work myself.
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I have 40,000 miles on one T100 and 30,000 miles on a second T100. Neither has ever burned any oil. I have 1500 on my XC and it has not burned any oil. I follow a blend of the breakin procedure posted above and the factory recommendations. I increase rpm as the engine loosens up. I think the key is no constant speeds and no lugging.
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Neither my Speed Triple (40K) or my Sprint (30K) user so much as a drop of oil between changes. I'm pretty sure design rule #1 for every new Triumph is 'Do NOT leak/use oil..."
We've owned 3 modern Triumphs: Bonneville, Scrambler and Street Triple and none have burned oil, never owned a bike that used oil. But Triumph did have some triples that used oil, remember Bike magazine blowing up a Tiger and I think also a Daytona due to low oil. They admitted to not checking the oil as often as stated in the manual, basically they never checked the oil, and their excuse was "when was the last time you rode a bike that used oil?".

http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-chat...term-test.html

At least the Tiger has a sight glass now and not the fiddly little dipstick like on my wife's Street Triple. So no, they're probably not gonna use any oil, but check it anyway.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:53 AM   #7838
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We've owned 3 modern Triumphs: Bonneville, Scrambler and Street Triple and none have burned oil, never owned a bike that used oil. But Triumph did have some triples that used oil, remember Bike magazine blowing up a Tiger and I think also a Daytona due to low oil. They admitted to not checking the oil as often as stated in the manual, basically they never checked the oil, and their excuse was "when was the last time you rode a bike that used oil?".

http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-chat...term-test.html

At least the Tiger has a sight glass now and not the fiddly little dipstick like on my wife's Street Triple. So no, they're probably not gonna use any oil, but check it anyway.
Agreed. As for the Tigger that blew up, I doubt there's a single manu that doesn't have a problem with the odd bike - the Friday afternoon bike so to speak. I think in general though, most modern bikes are pretty good with oil loss these days.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:07 AM   #7839
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Is there a full exhaust system w/o a cat available for the Tiger 800/800XC? Has anyone opened the cat and removed the guts?

I live in SW Florida and it's hot and humid this time of year, I'd like to reduce the heat on my lower legs and suspect much of it is coming from the cat.

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Paul, I would like to know this, too. It is hot in Central Florida and I just do not ride the Tiger after around 11:00 AM. I have seen one post where the person had the CAT cut out and a section of pipe welded in in its place. That is probably less expensive that buying a new header system. And it could be reinstalled if necessary. I think the CAT is where most of the unbearable heat is coming from.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:21 AM   #7840
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2009 KLR's had an issue with bad rings. My local dealer replaced mine free of charge. I actually had him install a Big Bore Kit and he did that with no labor charge.It wasn't your breakin process it was a mgf issue.

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I'm very familiar with the issue. It was more prominent on the 08s. Supposedly a different ring was used on the 09s. I still have some oil burn but it really is to be expected on 650 singles. The KLR will be for sale sometime in the near future anyways when I actually get some time to clean it up and fix all the stuff I broke. The tiger is superior in EVERY way! That's why I bought it. Not enough go juice from the 650 to keep me happy. Personally I think the stock suspension performs way better on the tiger than the klr's with a bunch of money dumped into it as well. So so so happy with the tiger.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:43 AM   #7841
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I'm very familiar with the issue. It was more prominent on the 08s. Supposedly a different ring was used on the 09s. I still have some oil burn but it really is to be expected on 650 singles.
NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....


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Old 08-10-2011, 08:44 AM   #7842
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NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....
XR's burn oil also....
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:01 AM   #7843
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XR's burn oil also....
That sir is a fact I am well aware of haha.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:52 PM   #7844
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NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....


True, my DR650 does not use any oil.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:03 PM   #7845
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True, my DR650 does not use any oil.
My Dakar 650GS does not use any oil either.
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