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Old 08-10-2011, 07:47 AM   #7876
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Ditto here. I only have about 1200 miles on the XC but no oil burning and no (knock wood) stalling. I am in the camp that believes any stalling is related to the stepper motor. Software doesn't change but mechanical bits can and do. I suspect any software change will be made to compensate for some glitch in the stepper. I had the 600 mile check done at the dealer and the bike ran as good after as when I took it in. I don't plan to take it back though unless I have a warranty problem since I try and do all work myself.
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I have 40,000 miles on one T100 and 30,000 miles on a second T100. Neither has ever burned any oil. I have 1500 on my XC and it has not burned any oil. I follow a blend of the breakin procedure posted above and the factory recommendations. I increase rpm as the engine loosens up. I think the key is no constant speeds and no lugging.
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Neither my Speed Triple (40K) or my Sprint (30K) user so much as a drop of oil between changes. I'm pretty sure design rule #1 for every new Triumph is 'Do NOT leak/use oil..."
We've owned 3 modern Triumphs: Bonneville, Scrambler and Street Triple and none have burned oil, never owned a bike that used oil. But Triumph did have some triples that used oil, remember Bike magazine blowing up a Tiger and I think also a Daytona due to low oil. They admitted to not checking the oil as often as stated in the manual, basically they never checked the oil, and their excuse was "when was the last time you rode a bike that used oil?".

http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-chat...term-test.html

At least the Tiger has a sight glass now and not the fiddly little dipstick like on my wife's Street Triple. So no, they're probably not gonna use any oil, but check it anyway.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:53 AM   #7877
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We've owned 3 modern Triumphs: Bonneville, Scrambler and Street Triple and none have burned oil, never owned a bike that used oil. But Triumph did have some triples that used oil, remember Bike magazine blowing up a Tiger and I think also a Daytona due to low oil. They admitted to not checking the oil as often as stated in the manual, basically they never checked the oil, and their excuse was "when was the last time you rode a bike that used oil?".

http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-chat...term-test.html

At least the Tiger has a sight glass now and not the fiddly little dipstick like on my wife's Street Triple. So no, they're probably not gonna use any oil, but check it anyway.
Agreed. As for the Tigger that blew up, I doubt there's a single manu that doesn't have a problem with the odd bike - the Friday afternoon bike so to speak. I think in general though, most modern bikes are pretty good with oil loss these days.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:07 AM   #7878
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Is there a full exhaust system w/o a cat available for the Tiger 800/800XC? Has anyone opened the cat and removed the guts?

I live in SW Florida and it's hot and humid this time of year, I'd like to reduce the heat on my lower legs and suspect much of it is coming from the cat.

Regards, Paul
Paul, I would like to know this, too. It is hot in Central Florida and I just do not ride the Tiger after around 11:00 AM. I have seen one post where the person had the CAT cut out and a section of pipe welded in in its place. That is probably less expensive that buying a new header system. And it could be reinstalled if necessary. I think the CAT is where most of the unbearable heat is coming from.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:21 AM   #7879
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2009 KLR's had an issue with bad rings. My local dealer replaced mine free of charge. I actually had him install a Big Bore Kit and he did that with no labor charge.It wasn't your breakin process it was a mgf issue.

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I'm very familiar with the issue. It was more prominent on the 08s. Supposedly a different ring was used on the 09s. I still have some oil burn but it really is to be expected on 650 singles. The KLR will be for sale sometime in the near future anyways when I actually get some time to clean it up and fix all the stuff I broke. The tiger is superior in EVERY way! That's why I bought it. Not enough go juice from the 650 to keep me happy. Personally I think the stock suspension performs way better on the tiger than the klr's with a bunch of money dumped into it as well. So so so happy with the tiger.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:43 AM   #7880
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I'm very familiar with the issue. It was more prominent on the 08s. Supposedly a different ring was used on the 09s. I still have some oil burn but it really is to be expected on 650 singles.
NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....


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Old 08-10-2011, 08:44 AM   #7881
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NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....
XR's burn oil also....
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:01 AM   #7882
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XR's burn oil also....
That sir is a fact I am well aware of haha.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:52 PM   #7883
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NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....


True, my DR650 does not use any oil.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:03 PM   #7884
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True, my DR650 does not use any oil.
My Dakar 650GS does not use any oil either.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:12 PM   #7885
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Is there a full exhaust system w/o a cat available for the Tiger 800/800XC? Has anyone opened the cat and removed the guts?

I live in SW Florida and it's hot and humid this time of year, I'd like to reduce the heat on my lower legs and suspect much of it is coming from the cat.

Regards, Paul
Someone just recently posted on Tiger800.co.uk with photos of their exhaust sans cat. Basically took headers to local engineering company who cut the cat section out & welded a suitable pipe in place of.

Would suggest re-tuning to the Arrow tune if doing this.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:26 PM   #7886
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I've led a trail ride (we call it "green laning") around the Salisbury area of the UK in the company of 9 KTMs of various shapes and one other T800XC.
The conditions were tricky in places because there had been some rain which filled all the puddles. Some very deep. The Tiger held its own very well. In fact I did a lot of waiting for the group to catch up.
Verdict? Very capable.
A small taste of the ride....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0eVj..._order&list=UL

There were some breakages so we were down to 6 for this photo...


Very nice BT ........

So how do you like the Heidi Scouts?

That is the tire I plan on putting on mine, when I purchase it. It's either that, or TKCs, but I'm really looking for more of a true 50 /50 tire, and I think the Scouts are the way to go.

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:32 PM   #7887
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NO... Only with KLR's. The DR650 and the BMW 650 singles don't have this issue....



It's cool. I came to terms with the fact that my KLR burns some oil........ So I bought the Tiger!!!
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:42 PM   #7888
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Bought mine today!!

I bought my White Tiger today and pick it up tomorrow!! i got a 800XC with ABS.

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:52 PM   #7889
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It's cool. I came to terms with the fact that my KLR burns some oil........ So I bought the Tiger!!!
That's a great solution!


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White I bought my Tiger today and pick it up tomorrow!! i got a 800XC with ABS.
Congratulations!! Enjoy that XC.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:41 PM   #7890
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Neither my Speed Triple (40K) or my Sprint (30K) user so much as a drop of oil between changes. I'm pretty sure design rule #1 for every new Triumph is 'Do NOT leak/use oil..."
My 1050 Tiger used oil. Not a lot, but I definitely had to watch it between changes.
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