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Old 08-26-2011, 09:54 PM   #8206
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My problem is with the fact that I would not be willing to spend 25% of the price of the bike (Tiger 800) for a set up aluminum boxes and some steel pipes.

And the other issue I have is the fact that Touratech USA generally puts between 35 and 45% on top of the German prices. I can't support that. That's rip off.

When you think about it: buy them in Germany, pay German sales tax (19%), pay possible import taxes and pay shipping all the way from Germany to the US and you end up paying less then buying from Touratech USA?! Really?

I don't doubt the quality and they look better than many others but still ...
Well your of course right. Can't the US, Canadians or UK build a nice looking good quality pannier system for our bike under 1000?

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Old 08-26-2011, 11:14 PM   #8207
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Well your of course right. Can't the US, Canadians or UK build a nice looking good quality pannier system for our bike under 1000?
I find the Jesse actually quite nice, though I like the 9" Safaris more than the Odyssey.

Then there are the Happy Trail panniers:



Though they aren't even close to the quality of the Touratech. The TT are nevertheless build in much larger quantities - the cases should be the same for the Tiger and other bikes, the racks are different. Therefore - being kind of "mass produced" they should be priced better.

With the options that are available at the moment I'd go with Wolfman soft luggage:



and put an additional Ortlieb or Wolfman duffel across the passenger seat. I just don't like any of the options available enough to spent that much on them. Just thinking about paying more for a set of anodized alu boxes than for the used Suzuki DR200SE we bought last year - no freaking way. And that's coming from someone who rides a crazy expensive bike ...
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:08 AM   #8208
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With the options that are available at the moment I'd go with Wolfman soft luggage:



and put an additional Ortlieb or Wolfman duffel across the passenger seat.
+1. That's what I did. Keeps the weight down.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:12 AM   #8209
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I agree wholeheartedly with the outrageous cost of the Touratech bags. Under most circumstances I would have never even considered buying them. I have had Jesse bags in the past (not cheap either!) and liked them very much in terms of how they fit close to the bike. The only thing I did not like was the looks. I thought the Touratech looked better but I really struggled to pay the price they are asking. The only reason I went ahead with the purchase is that I recently sold a small business and had some cash I could justify letting go. If that had not happened I would have went with the Wolfman Expedition bags in a heartbeat...for thousands less!

I really don't like that the small bags extends so far out either, but I was just not willing to pony up even more money to get the form fitted one. But, there are things about all the bags I don't like...shape, width, etc. According to their respective sites, the Touratech extent 2" wider than the Jesse Odyssey: 39" vs 37".


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Old 08-27-2011, 05:14 AM   #8210
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Jesse's on the Tiger

Bags like bikes are subjective. We have the Jesse system on our Beemers and used them on the Tiger for our recent trip. We love the look and functionality of the Jesse bags. They are not cheap but they are waterproof and top loading and easy on easy off. Totally as for looks up the the rider!



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Old 08-27-2011, 05:17 AM   #8211
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I emailed them about 4 months ago about handguards. He said that he needed some detailed pics. I sent about 15 with a tape measure showing everything. He never would reply back. If their customer service is that bad, then I'll spend my money somewhere else. In case you can't tell, I'm pissed. I sent about 10 replies & never one response. I can only assume the oval part interferes with the tank shrouds on full turn.
I emailed him yesterday and he responded. He said that he is getting a Tiger test bike soon and will have some information on product soon.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:32 AM   #8212
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Tiger 1200????

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Old 08-27-2011, 06:38 AM   #8213
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I've had my Tiger Road version for 3 weeks and about 1,000 miles. So far I have added:

XC handguards
XC high fender (vanity!)
Heated grips
My gps mount and heated gear pigtail
Arrow
An old RKA tankbag I had on my GS
Touratech Zega Pro panniers and tail box
Mastad screen
Looks good but I'm afraid you made a mistake on the hand guards. They're crap.
I replaced mine immediately with some Tiger1050 ones I already had. But I'd recommend you get something else, anything but those standard ones. because those :-
a) don't give any weather protection &
b) fold as soon as you hit the deck and your levers break. I've seen it happen.

Here's what the 1050 ones look like....


Much stiffer in construction and I've found that my hands stay dry in the rain.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:50 AM   #8214
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My problem is with the fact that I would not be willing to spend 25% of the price of the bike (Tiger 800) for a set up aluminum boxes and some steel pipes.

And the other issue I have is the fact that Touratech USA generally puts between 35 and 45% on top of the German prices. I can't support that. That's rip off.

When you think about it: buy them in Germany, pay German sales tax (19%), pay possible import taxes and pay shipping all the way from Germany to the US and you end up paying less then buying from Touratech USA?! Really?

I don't doubt the quality and they look better than many others but still ...
I completely agree. And you know what else pisses me off about Touratech? Here in the European Union we're suppose to be able to buy stuff from any other country without penalty. i.e. so long as you pay tax either in the country of purchase or in your home country, fine, done. Free trade area...supposed to be. But Touratech refused to send their stuff to me direct from Germany saying that I must pay the extortionate UK prices that the importer puts on the bits.
We've got a saying here..... "Rip off Britain". We seem to pay over the odds for most stuff including 6/UKgallon for petrol!!
I almost wrote that I'm glad we're not the only ones getting shafted.......

Oh bugger! I did.

On a different tack, Metal Mule are another quality but pricey option.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:20 AM   #8215
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Hey Shep - What size are those Zega Pro panniers ? 31 & 38 L ? They look great! - did you paint them to match the Tiger ? I'm thinking 2, 38 L cases with the Happy Trails rack system. TT certainly does not give their stuff away!! - They have 35 L Zega's for $386 - but are different than the "PRO" model & look kinda cheap. Tried 'Holan' - but they arent currently available due to change in ownership / management. Anyway - nice job - tiger looks 'road ready'. Thanks, j
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Old 08-27-2011, 10:19 AM   #8216
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Looks good but I'm afraid you made a mistake on the hand guards. They're crap.
I replaced mine immediately with some Tiger1050 ones I already had. But I'd recommend you get something else, anything but those standard ones. because those :-
a) don't give any weather protection &
b) fold as soon as you hit the deck and your levers break. I've seen it happen.
I agree. The Barkbusters are $65 more than the OEM ones but that aluminum spine makes all the difference. And if you get them with the Storm plastics, you get about the same weather protection as with the Tiger 1050 hand guards. The Barkbusters definitely saved my clutch lever and may have saved the bar itself a couple weekends ago.

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Old 08-27-2011, 01:31 PM   #8217
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Hey Shep - What size are those Zega Pro panniers ? 31 & 38 L ? They look great! - did you paint them to match the Tiger ? I'm thinking 2, 38 L cases with the Happy Trails rack system. TT certainly does not give their stuff away!! - They have 35 L Zega's for $386 - but are different than the "PRO" model & look kinda cheap. Tried 'Holan' - but they arent currently available due to change in ownership / management. Anyway - nice job - tiger looks 'road ready'. Thanks, j
Yes, they are the 31 & 38 L. I did not paint them; they are anodized silver. The last bare aluminum bag I had got residue all over everything I put it in.

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Old 08-27-2011, 01:51 PM   #8218
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OK, I was contacted by my dealer in New Orleans this week and told a new tune download was available for the stalling issues some have been experiencing and my VIN was one. I have about 650 miles on mine with no stalling issues at all. So I made an appointment for this morning and took a ride. The tune went quick and their service guys are top notch. On my way home I covered appoximately 100 miles of 4 lane and twisty back roads. I stopped three time; once for lunch, two for quick pics. On the third stop, I attempted to start the bike and ... It wouldn't start!! It would not start at idle as normal by just pushing the start button. I had to give it gas and keep it rev'd above 2K rpm to keep it going and get home. WTF? I just had a tune downloaded to keep it from stalling and now it won't idle!!! Called the tech to inform him and make a note in my file for further info. After about 15 minutes I went out to try it again, and it started and idled fine?????? Now, I have lost confidence in this wonderful bike and am keeping my fingers crossed. Has anyone else experienced something like this on an XC?
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:59 PM   #8219
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OK, I was contacted by my dealer in New Orleans this week and told a new tune download was available for the stalling issues some have been experiencing and my VIN was one. I have about 650 miles on mine with no stalling issues at all. So I made an appointment for this morning and took a ride. The tune went quick and their service guys are top notch. On my way home I covered appoximately 100 miles of 4 lane and twisty back roads. I stopped three time; once for lunch, two for quick pics. On the third stop, I attempted to start the bike and ... It wouldn't start!! It would not start at idle as normal by just pushing the start button. I had to give it gas and keep it rev'd above 2K rpm to keep it going and get home. WTF? I just had a tune downloaded to keep it from stalling and now it won't idle!!! Called the tech to inform him and make a note in my file for further info. After about 15 minutes I went out to try it again, and it started and idled fine?????? Now, I have lost confidence in this wonderful bike and am keeping my fingers crossed. Has anyone else experienced something like this on an XC?
we were told that changing the air filter was also part of the recall not just the download...
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Old 08-27-2011, 02:16 PM   #8220
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OK, I was contacted by my dealer in New Orleans this week and told a new tune download was available for the stalling issues some have been experiencing and my VIN was one. I have about 650 miles on mine with no stalling issues at all. So I made an appointment for this morning and took a ride. The tune went quick and their service guys are top notch. On my way home I covered appoximately 100 miles of 4 lane and twisty back roads. I stopped three time; once for lunch, two for quick pics. On the third stop, I attempted to start the bike and ... It wouldn't start!! It would not start at idle as normal by just pushing the start button. I had to give it gas and keep it rev'd above 2K rpm to keep it going and get home. WTF? I just had a tune downloaded to keep it from stalling and now it won't idle!!! Called the tech to inform him and make a note in my file for further info. After about 15 minutes I went out to try it again, and it started and idled fine?????? Now, I have lost confidence in this wonderful bike and am keeping my fingers crossed. Has anyone else experienced something like this on an XC?
I'm curious....if you have had no issues why in heaven's name did you get the new tune
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