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Old 10-21-2010, 08:49 AM   #811
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31.9"-32.6" seat height on one,
33.25"-34" on the other.

Not bad. I might actually be able to wing an XC without too much stress. Worse case, it forces me to be a better rider. Depends on the seat shape and CoG. If not, the 800 would be fine. And it wouldn't suck to have both. Cool.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:51 AM   #812
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I'll have to say this for Triumph. At least they seem to recognize that people demand more info and they're letting it seep out, rather than making people wait in a vacuum. At least it keeps the tribes from getting restless. It seems to me they're watching and listening to what people are saying.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:26 AM   #813
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Has anyone noticed the XC version seems to have an additional 2 cables/hoses that appear to terminate one the front forks, in addition to the brake hoses that are also visible on the road version...

Any ideas...?

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:36 AM   #814
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The street version has one brake line down to the left caliper then crosses over to the right caliper. The XC looks like one down to fork then T's off to both calipers and then also a crossover from caliper to caliper.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:40 AM   #815
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Has anyone noticed the XC version seems to have an additional 2 cables/hoses that appear to terminate one the front forks, in addition to the brake hoses that are also visible on the road version...

Any ideas...?
Looks like the brake lines to me. Could be XC vs. non-XC or ABS vs. non-ABS. In one case the hydraulic line junction is on the fender instead of the caliper.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:40 AM   #816
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Note the standard tyres on the XC are completely different from the ones in the photo shoot.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:55 AM   #817
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The street version has one brake line down to the left caliper then crosses over to the right caliper. The XC looks like one down to fork then T's off to both calipers and then also a crossover from caliper to caliper.
I thought that, but it appears the XC follows the street version - it also has one line that goes to one caliper then crosses over to the other. But there still those two additional cables / lines that look like they terminate at the fork itself. They also look like hydraulic lines, rather than cables based on the connectors...

This photo makes it clearer regarding the brake lines going to the caliper:



Is it possible they have electronically adjustable suspension on the XC?
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:02 AM   #818
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Brake lines look to be a normal setup. The 2 lines that come down to the fork look to be separate to me.
I'm thinking adjustable suspension too!!
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:11 AM   #819
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Brake lines look to be a normal setup. The 2 lines that come down to the fork look to be separate to me.
I'm thinking adjustable suspension too!!
There is also the remote reservoir for the rear shock but with no obvious remote preload adjuster, something I would expect on a bike like this.

If this thing has electronically adjustable suspension and is selling for 7.5k, they won't be able to make them fast enough
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:13 AM   #820
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I can't think of another reason for those lines being there. mmmmm...
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:42 AM   #821
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I think you guys are overthinking it.

What I see is a brake line coming down along the fork leg and going into a fitting attached to the fender, out of which comes another line that loops up towards the radiator and down on the other side. And from the right caliper another line splits off that hugs the fender and runs to the left-side caliper.

Why Triumph routed the line like this is beyond me, but it seems pretty clear that nothing's coming from that fender-mounted fitting to connect to the fork. It couldn't be directly connected to the fork leg at that point because the fender will move up and down in relation to the fork leg there.

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Old 10-21-2010, 10:52 AM   #822
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I think you guys are overthinking it.

What I see is a brake line coming down along the fork leg and going into a fitting attached to the fender, out of which comes another line that loops up towards the radiator and down on the other side. And from the right caliper another line splits off that hugs the fender and runs to the left-side caliper.

Why Triumph routed the line like this is beyond me, but it seems pretty clear that nothing's coming from that fender-mounted fitting to connect to the fork. It couldn't be directly connected to the fork leg at that point because the fender will move up and down in relation to the fork leg there.

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mmm... I see what your saying and i think your right. Weird way to run them. oh well, i don't really care. Its already so close to what i want i know i'll get one regardless!
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:02 AM   #823
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Yeah, look at the front angled shots of the bike and you can see 2 looped brake lines going over the front fender. Not sure why they didn't run them like on the other bike. Just adds a splitter and gives a lot of slack in the one brake line.

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Old 10-21-2010, 11:20 AM   #824
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that has to be the worst brake line fitting i've ever seen. that is overdone even more than german standards. what create 2 loop backs? that just creates more fluid work and potential brake loss. the common thing to do would be a T and even better 2 braided line from the res.

i must say triumph has some head scratchers on this bike.
i know this has been discussed already.
-why is that front fender sooo close to the tire on this version. it goes against everything the bike is designed for. if you look at the pic of the bike w/ the knobbies the clear is unreal tight??? i can see a fender lift kit (w/ rider brackets) being one of the first mods to be done by the aftermarket. maybe that can be bundled w/ better brake lines.
-the frame tubing for the rear pegs. triumph expects this bike to be riden in the dirt yet attaches the rear pegs to frame to to rear subframe to the front frame??? a hard dump and you could be looking at a damage rear subframe/complete frame? they should of atleast make the rear peg brackets removable. if you use hard luggage the point is moot but not everyone will. who will be the first person to tweak this area? maybe people will cut it off to be safe as they don't ride w/ passengers anyway.

i think it's obvious that the designers did not consult hardcore offroad riders on what is needed or short commings they see before they went into production. in this sense triumph screwed up.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:27 AM   #825
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Centerstand ?

Anybody see a centerstand for this xc? I would hope they offer one. Rod
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