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Old 08-30-2011, 08:28 AM   #8266
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I've rode both bikes as well and the Tiger is better in the dirt and has a better suspension.

Indeed. They fly too.





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Old 08-30-2011, 10:04 AM   #8267
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But...you just need that one lucky shot and your oil filter is punctured and it's game over. I chose the SWmotech one for that reason. I don't care that it's riveted. After all the Titanic was riveted together......................Oh!
I believe some sort of guard is a good idea. The tin on an oil filter is pretty soft material ... and running TKC80's or similar knobby's means even more rocks could be kicked up with some force.

I rode my DL1000 V-Strom through Baja and Copper canyon several times, doing lots of high speed dirt roads. I worried about the oil filter ... which has similar exposure as the Tiger. I was lucky ... never took a hit but lots of sand blasting and little dings on the filter.

If you're in the middle of nowhere a oil filter guard is a good safety measure. One could carry a spare filter I suppose but a guard is a more elegant solution.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:36 AM   #8268
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Just got my Tiger back after some time at the shop. In diagnosing the wobble I experience on decel above 47 mph, they checked wheel trueness, fork alignment/not bent, tire spec, etc.

They found the stock tire out of spec and replaced it under warranty.

The wobble is still there, though. Not going to worry about it.

They also replaced the recalled center stand spring and loaded the new tune.

My bike was one of the problem-free ones with stalling but I always did notice abruptness when reducing throttle. The new tune feels like it's softened the response out, so it's a nice positive improvement.
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Old 08-30-2011, 12:00 PM   #8269
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My bike was one of the problem-free ones with stalling but I always did notice abruptness when reducing throttle. The new tune feels like it's softened the response out, so it's a nice positive improvement.

I have to agree with you on the new tune. I also noticed the smoothness AFTER letting off the throttle. The throttle doesn't drop as quickly as it did before.

On a side note, I only had two episodes of the stalling issue, both in high heat and long rides.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:36 PM   #8270
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I've arrived home from a 3857 mile adventure on my Tiger. IT RAN FLAWLESSLY THE ENTIRE TRIP!!! I've got nearly 7000 miles on it now. I did some really long days. Including one that was 711. Of all the things that I "over the top" love about this bike, the one that really sticks out after this trip is the transmission. This bike could not shift any faster or smoother. So so so happy with this machine.

The ride reports are starting to be posted in my thread if you care to view. Days 1 and 2 are done. Day 3 will be done by bedtime.

On the skidplate note, I have the Triumph one on right now. I am worried about smacking something really hard and bending the plate into the oil filter. That edge is defiantly sharp enough to puncture the filter. Happy Trails should have their prototype to my soon. I'll report back when I get it.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:09 PM   #8271
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I thought I would write a little bit about the recently fitted SW Motech bash plate and why I chose this over the Triumph offering.

Having chosen the road bike and knowing most of my miles are going to be on tarmac, I feel the SW product is slightlly better biased for this. The Triumph guard employs a welded construction, which undoubtably makes it stronger than the riveted construction this guard uses. However, as I am unlikely to be coming in contact with large rocks, this isnt going to be a huge issue for me. This guard certainly seems to be well constructed from 5mm ally sheet and tidy flush mounted rivets.

The SW item is also much higher at the front compared to the Triumph guard. This provided much better protection for the oil filter, which is very exposed on the Triumph guard.


This guard is also a little longer than Triumphs and provides a little extra protection for the rear shock linkage. The linkage isnt covered, but having the under tray drop down, may be enough to deflect any loose rocks and provide enough clearance to prevent contact.



A couple of shots showing how this fits with the Hepco crash bars. I think they go together really well.



Finally, the guard is anodised black. Therefore is will make the bike faster.
Looks good! I likey your Roadie in Negra. The bits you've put on look great. Still on the fence about which bash plate on my sputtering XC.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:09 PM   #8272
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Man I am a cheap ass. I look at the tourtech style aluminum hard cases and I want em, so bad, but I can't justify the price...now I understand why the bmw guys drive with them on for day to day commuting...you spend that kinda money and you have to keep em on!

Anyway I just ordered up some stuff to build my own and including tubing for the brackets (I have a bender) it looks like I will be out around 200 bux including topcase and bags for something that will look similar and should be as strong. We'll see how it works out when the boxes get here but if it isn't an epic fail I'll post up the part numbers and such for DIY write-up with bracket and case cut dimensions...maybe I'll even knock out a few mounting bracket kits for the bender challenged guys. You'll laugh your ass off when you see the case source
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:28 PM   #8273
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OK, I was contacted by my dealer in New Orleans this week and told a new tune download was available for the stalling issues some have been experiencing and my VIN was one. I have about 650 miles on mine with no stalling issues at all. So I made an appointment for this morning and took a ride. The tune went quick and their service guys are top notch. On my way home I covered appoximately 100 miles of 4 lane and twisty back roads. I stopped three time; once for lunch, two for quick pics. On the third stop, I attempted to start the bike and ... It wouldn't start!! It would not start at idle as normal by just pushing the start button. I had to give it gas and keep it rev'd above 2K rpm to keep it going and get home. WTF? I just had a tune downloaded to keep it from stalling and now it won't idle!!! Called the tech to inform him and make a note in my file for further info. After about 15 minutes I went out to try it again, and it started and idled fine?????? Now, I have lost confidence in this wonderful bike and am keeping my fingers crossed. Has anyone else experienced something like this on an XC?
Hi, I just finished a 12,000km ride, and had the bike serviced at 10,000 The dealer told me about the new downlooad, and proceeded to install it. I had only had stalling issues at hight altitude (>10,000 ft) On my way home the bike stallled every time I came to a stop and like you had to give gas to get it going. I stopped after about 10 stalls, and when I gotr back on bike it seemed fine again. Very frustrating. Planning to test it out again this weekend.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:51 AM   #8274
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Like Andylaser setup. Even the crashbars are awesome for this bikes :o)
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:49 AM   #8275
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I believe some sort of guard is a good idea. The tin on an oil filter is pretty soft material ... and running TKC80's or similar knobby's means even more rocks could be kicked up with some force.
I have the optional Triumph guard on my XC. It looks good and is fairly rugged. It partially covers the oil filter; but I can still change the filter without removing the guard. While, of course, it is not impossible, it would be fairly difficult for the front tire to throw an object into to the oil filter over the optional guard. I do like the Motech filter guard and may go that route. It would be easy to remove to change the filter.

I have had my XC in some pretty nasty rocky terrain with no problems. Cheryl and Leslie have many, many miles under them in all kinds of gravel and rocks without any damage to the oil filter. Their XC's had the optional Triumph guard.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:44 AM   #8276
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I got the new map update yesterday (XC w/ABS) and notice that there is a little less snatchiness at throttle on/off. Never had any stalling so cannot comment on that.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:43 AM   #8277
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Had a chance to take my Tiger on it's first ride of any distance yesterday. I rode north to see my new grandson for a few hours then back home. Not that far, about 420 miles or so...all boring state highway. It did give me an opportunity to compare the bike's traveling comfort with my 1200GS. I was very pleased as I was every bit as comfortable on the Tiger, or more so. I also discovered just how well the Mastad screen works when I took off without putting in my ear plugs; my Arrows sounded much louder than I remembered! Beginning the 11th of September I have 3 weeks off and will be taking an extended trip to parts unknown.

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Shep - Interested in your comparison to the 1200GS. My next bike is going to be an adventure type of some sort... I will mostly be commuting and some road touring - smooth dirt roads at the worst. For a variety of reasons, I like the r1200GS, but a little hesitant due to the cost of ownership. Took a test ride on a Tiger roadie and really liked it. I was surprised by the decent wind protection. (I like to ride with my visor open about halfway). I'm 5'7", 30" inseam. How tall are you and can you give me a little more of your impressions of the Tiger (and Madstad), as compared to the 1200GS?

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Old 08-31-2011, 08:19 AM   #8278
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twinpower - cant compare the 12GS, as my other remaining bike is a Girlie tiger. However: I'm 5'8" - 30" inseam. 800XC with low gel seat (in low position) allows me to get about 1/2 - 2/3rds of both boots down. More than my KLR, Uly, or 955 tiger. So shouldnt be a problem. As for comfort comparo - I think Shep already answered that one? As short as I am, I still needed 20mm risers to change riding position - big improvement. Madstad is good stuff - another alternative is Palmer brackets / screen. good luck. j
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:45 AM   #8279
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I started a thread here in Beasts about aftermarket T800 screens thinking we would have a place to compare the different offerings but there doesn't seem to be much interest with this group. Maybe with winter approaching that will change.

I was the beta tester for the Madstad, have been using it for 5 months and can highly recommend it (especially now that he is including the lower deflectors) to anybody thinking about touring/winter screens or just want something that does away with the wind noise and turbulence.
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:28 AM   #8280
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I have the T800 with the Madstad It works great for me. I can ride with my visor open now.
I am 6' tall with 32" inseam standard height seat in tall position. Both feet almost flat on ground.
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