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Old 10-11-2011, 02:04 PM   #8926
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"Also in Greece today...."

Where in Greece? I go there a fair amount for business, would love to take a riding holiday there....some stunning scenery.
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PLUS ONE ++++ Good to see you out there and getting it done! I've only been in the Athens airport a couple times ... man, looks like some great country. How about some quaint village shots and Uzo festivals? How are costs now ... with the financial crisis have prices reduced much for tourists? (with UK pounds)
All over Greece is the answer to the first question....
Sparta Memorial @ thermopoli...


Ancient Myceni...


Nafplio...


Leonides Statue in Sparta...


Anyway you're stopping me updating my RR http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...1#post17051821


Fuel at 1.58 to 1.70 PER LITRE!!! No, cost aren't very good for anyone here.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:15 PM   #8927
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"substandard" was my word and was probably not the best choice .... was not the BIKE writer or Triumph saying this, just me interpolating.

Also, I'm glad you noted that you are dealing in Imperial gallons, not US gallons.

The BIKE testers got about the same MPG as you did ... 52 MPG (Imperial).
As we know the BIKE guys aren't dawdling along and are making good progress most of the time.

I'm guessing that 52 MPG (Imperial) would translate to about 45 MPG or so in US gallons?? Not bad but not great either. BMW has given Triumph something to shoot for. All good.

I havnt reset my mpg thingy on my computer for about 1000 miles now and it stays steady at 50- 51 mpg. I run the piss out of it too. I wonder how accurate thier computer is...?
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:10 PM   #8928
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I havnt reset my mpg thingy on my computer for about 1000 miles now and it stays steady at 50- 51 mpg. I run the piss out of it too. I wonder how accurate thier computer is...?
Not as accurate as calculating it yourself using the trip meter. Handy as reminder though as it's pessimistic so you should never run out if you follow the computer

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Old 10-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #8929
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your only getting 42mpg? thats really low. are you running an arrow pipe with the arrow tune?
That is 42mpg (US gallons) stock with no arrow pipe, and no arrow tune (I hope), at sea level, with a 170lb rider. I think that is about what most people are reporting- and it sounds on a par with the BIKE magazine test (52mpg (UK gallons) is about the same). I know some people are reporting 50+ mpg (US), but I cannot imagine that is possible on my bike without heroic levels of granny driving. If this bike was at 50mpg (US) from mixed use I would be delighted.
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:47 PM   #8930
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I keep track of my fuel economy in a spreadsheet and don't rely on the (inaccurate) computer.

So far the lowest mileage I've gotten is 32.66 mpg (though usually my city riding puts me in the 36-38 mpg range) and the highest mileage I've gotten is 46.63 mpg. These are all U.S. mpg figures and figured on a per-tank basis. The average of all my tanks so far is 41.46 mpg.

I really don't see how people are getting over 50 mpg U.S. I'm not much of an aggressive rider and I expect not-so-great mileage in NYC but even those long highway trips only get me in the upper 40s. Standard tune for the bike with standard exhaust.

I'm not complaining because I really don't give a shit about the mileage the bike gets - that's not why I bought it. Just reporting my data.
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:58 PM   #8931
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Yes, that's why they bought Rover cars. Rover had done a lot of research into "lean burn" technology prior to Catastrophic converters being introduced. It was never implemented by Rover but it has been stolen, sorry bought by BMW and they are using the technology in all their vehicles.
BMW did the same with Landrover. They nicked all the off road technology (hill decent etc.) and put it into things like the X5.
Everybody's using lean mixtures these days, that's not the interesting stuff. Where BMW is really doing interesting things with the cars is with their Valvetronic technology. One of the big killers of fuel economy is throttling losses so Valvetronic does away with the throttle and instead uses variable intake valve lift to control engine load in response to the input from the gas pedal. Really neat stuff. Wonder how long it will be before that technology makes it to their bikes.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:22 PM   #8932
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I keep track of my fuel economy in a spreadsheet and don't rely on the (inaccurate) computer.

So far the lowest mileage I've gotten is 32.66 mpg (though usually my city riding puts me in the 36-38 mpg range) and the highest mileage I've gotten is 46.63 mpg. These are all U.S. mpg figures and figured on a per-tank basis. The average of all my tanks so far is 41.46 mpg.

I really don't see how people are getting over 50 mpg U.S. I'm not much of an aggressive rider and I expect not-so-great mileage in NYC but even those long highway trips only get me in the upper 40s. Standard tune for the bike with standard exhaust.

I'm not complaining because I really don't give a shit about the mileage the bike gets - that's not why I bought it. Just reporting my data.
This closely reflects my experience- I average 42mpg (US), best was 46mpg, worst was 37mpg. This is calculated using the trip meter and tank refill quantity.

One thing does mildy irritate me though- my car was sold with the manufacturers mpg quoted as 24/28 city/freeway and I average about 26mpg in real use. Triumph USA quote 41/63 city/freeway and I average the bottom end of that spectrum even on the freeway, as did BIKE magazine in their tests.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:54 PM   #8933
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Triumph USA quote 41/63 city/freeway and I average the bottom end of that spectrum even on the freeway, as did BIKE magazine in their tests.
All I can say is that the EPA test they are basing that on must not be very similar to real-world riding.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:56 PM   #8934
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:22 PM   #8935
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That's so frickin' cool. I just bought my second Tiger. The first was a 1973 TR6R. It looked a lot like that but with the traditional Triumph paint job. Really fun for a nostalgia bike.

I took my new TigerXC on dirt for the first time today. I was surprised how well it handled. It didn't feel heavy or awkward, the suspension did what is supposed to do, and the engine is even more fun on dirt than on pavement. Even those silly road tires hooked up better than I expected. I definitely made the right choice with this bike.

I looked and rode others. Don't have a bad thing to say about them, but this is the right bike for me.

But I have to laugh about the mileage. I'm only on my second tank, but I don't think the computer has read over 35 MPG once. I suspect my riding style might have something to do with it.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:36 PM   #8936
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Mileage improvement with new fuel map.

Monday, I took the bike in for the recall fuel map insertion.

No problem with stalling on my bike (800 Tiger/4000 + miles) but went with the consensus here, "Go ahead and get it, it couldn't hurt."

I didn't notice any difference in the bikes performance other than the increased mileage.

Using the bikes computer, I was getting on average 43.3 mpg (US) pre load and on my ride home, mostly highway and subsequent back road riding two up, I was getting 47.1 mpg.

I have the Arrow pipe and I was taking it easy with the misses on the back.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:31 PM   #8937
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That's so frickin' cool. I just bought my second Tiger. The first was a 1973 TR6R. It looked a lot like that but with the traditional Triumph paint job. Really fun for a nostalgia bike.

I took my new TigerXC on dirt for the first time today. I was surprised how well it handled. It didn't feel heavy or awkward, the suspension did what is supposed to do, and the engine is even more fun on dirt than on pavement. Even those silly road tires hooked up better than I expected. I definitely made the right choice with this bike.

I looked and rode others. Don't have a bad thing to say about them, but this is the right bike for me.

But I have to laugh about the mileage. I'm only on my second tank, but I don't think the computer has read over 35 MPG once. I suspect my riding style might have something to do with it.
The mileage improves as you break it in. I would expect around 36-38MPG for the first 500 miles. After 3000 miles I'm at 47-49MPG. My over all mileage since my purchase is at 47.1MPG at about 4000 miles.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:34 AM   #8938
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"All over Greece is the answer to the first question...."

If you haven't been to Kozani, make a visit...the Greeks consider it the party town of northern Greece. The Ptolemy valley on the main road out of town is a bit of a mess due to the power plants and lignite mines, but away from there, nice country.

If you need a place to stay, the Hotel Katerina in Kozani is a decent place at a reasonable price. People who work there are quite friendly....lots of decent places to eat in town as well.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:24 AM   #8939
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Fast? Is it a race? I guess I dont understand why fast is your goal. If you want fast go buy a supersport, or are you just wanting the fastest of your mentioned bikes above? I think the 800XC is plenty fast. The Tiger XC and the Tiger 1050, Duc MS12 are in two totally seperate categories. Also fast where? on gravel, on tarmac, on dirt...?
The reason for 'fast'

Not a race - but the need for speed is there and is important, at least to me
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:52 AM   #8940
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The reason for 'fast'

Not a race - but the need for speed is there and is important, at least to me
I hope you get away from your listed location often enough to justify that statement. Between the gatsos and the Ramblers shutting down your green lanes, I don't envy you. Sometimes, the impression of speed is enough.
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