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Old 10-22-2010, 07:40 PM   #916
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I am a fan of a triple . Question should be .. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass Vstrom 800 triple?
speaking from the heart and soul :
Can a V-STROM that is a "triple" , still be a V-STROM ?
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:42 PM   #917
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Can a V-STROM that is a "triple" , still be a V-STROM ?
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:51 PM   #918
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And do you know for a fact that you aren't able to choose? With all the tire discussions on this forum, if Triumph put TKCs on the bike, people would pipe up and say they want something else instead. I'd rather wait until the bike is actually released before commenting on what is offered or not.
First, I didn't say what you imply... Second, since we know so little about this bike we're free to speculate- without this speculations going on I doubt that we would have had the pics so soon Third, you were supposed to wait until the bike is released for comments, weren't you


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Old 10-22-2010, 08:00 PM   #919
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First, I didn't say what you imply... Second, since we know so little about this bike we're free to speculate- without this speculations going on I doubt that we would have had the pics so soon Third, you were supposed to wait until the bike is released for comments, weren't you


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Yes, I'm sure all your speculation had Triumph running to get some photos released.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:36 PM   #920
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Yeah I remember that and I'm not jealous at all!

Once you read a bit more you can see that the bike was, ah, slightly modified to make the journey......and he still didn't fit knobbies!

The cynic in me also wonders if he had a bit of a support crew along for the ride.

Anyway.... I reckon the black XC is the best looking one.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:58 PM   #921
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An R1 with knobblys would be better suited to offroad riding than a tiger with road tyres.
Here's your tiger with road tires...























Worked fine.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:33 PM   #922
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Dear Triumph,

I am not a fan of your introduction games on the Tiger 800 XC. Now that you have actually shown us something to look at, I thought I might reward that by telling you why I am interested in your offering. By the way, thanks for finally giving us a good look at the bike.

A little about me. I am in my late 40's. The last kid is off to college. I live in Colorado. I have owned mostly off-road bikes or dual sports. I currently ride a WR250F which I have made street legal, which is reasonably easy to do here in Colorado.

I am looking for a bike that I can ride here in Colorado both solo and with my wife along.

I live at around 6,000 ft elevation. The riding here goes from about 4,000 ft along river valleys to over 12,000 ft passes. Due to the large range in elevation, fuel injection is very desirable. A typical trip that I am imagining includes two hours of paved roads to get to dirt roads. The road could go up over a pass over the Continental Divide. At the other end of the day is some more paved road to town for an overnight stay. The next day is similar, a mix of paved and back roads over some other route back home. I have done some of this in the past, solo on a KLR650.

Here are my thoughts on some bikes I have considered:

KLR650
I owned one several years back. It is the only true ADV bike that I have owned. Cramped seating for two, no fuel injection, poor suspension, single cylinder gets buzzy at higher RPMs.

DR650
One of my friends had one. I rode it on many occasions. Cramped seating for two, no fuel injection, better suspension than the KLR, single cylinder can get buzzy. Pretty good for fire roads.

F800GS
Haven't ridden one. My thoughts are based on what I have gleaned from owners on websites, like this one. Nice seating for two. Quirky suspension. Multiple cylinders makes it better for cruising. Although I like working on all the bikes I have owned, and quite a few of my friends' bikes, I wonder how hard it is to do my own work on a BMW. Expensive to buy and expensive to fix.

V-Strom 650
Haven't ridden one. Good seating for two. Simple suspension that can only be improved so much. Love the 90 degree V twin. Poorly designed fairing. Not quite as offroad capable as I would like.

The bigger bikes (1200GS and KTM Adv) are heavier and more expensive than what I need. I am not really considering them. But the 800 XC wasn't designed to compete with them, was it?

(My apologies to the owners of the above bikes for my unknowing assessments. I am trying to give Triumph some honest feedback about why I am interested in their offering. My impressions may be incorrect, but they are affecting my buying decision.)

Here is what I like about what I have seen of the new Tiger 800 XC. The triple will probably be very smooth. I like the inverted forks. Can't tell much about the shock. I would guess that any shortcomings in the suspension will be easier to remedy than with the BMW. Seating looks good for two. Rim sizes should allow for a nice selection of tires.

I am extremely interested in this new bike of yours. I wish that I could say that I will be purchasing one right away, but I will have to wait for more real information from you and an up close look. Even after that I will have to feel a little better about my personal economic outlook before I will be ready to write a check.

As I said at the top, I derided your chosen introduction process for the bike on this forum. Now that you are getting a little more serious about giving out information on the bike, I wanted to let you know what I see in the 800 XC. Next time you introduce a bike, consider using a process that is not as offensive to the people you are targeting the bike at.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:42 PM   #923
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adv dr, is your letter for real or meant as sarcasm? If it is sarcasm, it is pretty funny. If it is meant as real, it is even funnier yet.
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I am not a fan of your introduction games on the Tiger 800 XC.
Dude! After all that the first thing that comes to mind - GO FOR A RIDE!
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:43 PM   #925
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very nice! I like the street version! I can't wait to see/learn more about this bike.
I like it too. I love my Wee Strom but just want a little better power/weight ratio, better brakes, and better suspension. Love the 19" front. Why'd BMW have to make the F650GS so friggin gay? :ymca
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:32 AM   #926
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This thread used to be a fun place to be, but now the whiners (tyres not good, shock mounted too low etc etc etc) seem to have taken over.

Nobody forces anyone to buy this bike, don't like it get something else.

ah well


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Old 10-23-2010, 03:00 AM   #927
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Really??? Please let us know when you are going to fit an R1 with knobbies and demonstrate this. I will make sure I'm there with a couple of cameras. This will make create viewing.

Personally, I think its a disgrace it doesn't come with a coffee card, valid world wide at all major espresso outlets (except Gloria Jeans. Their coffee is crap).

Then again that may be an option that will be revealed when the bike is officially released.
No need to bring your camera that jobs been done for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-DuzXcQ4qM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d3B7MPqUg

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Old 10-23-2010, 03:07 AM   #928
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Here's your tiger with road tires...























Worked fine.
An R1 with road tyres can also cope with dry gravel roads too, but when the going gets wet and muddy, That's when you must have good tyres or you will fall down or make no progress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjBrpN9nmZQ

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Old 10-23-2010, 03:30 AM   #929
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This thread used to be a fun place to be, but now the whiners (tyres not good, shock mounted too low etc etc etc) seem to have taken over.

Nobody forces anyone to buy this bike, don't like it get something else.

ah well


c of g way too high, i'm not getting one unless it has underseat tank cuz it will definitly be a pos without that, just kidding, sort of
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Old 10-23-2010, 05:05 AM   #930
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Dear Triumph,

I am not a fan of your introduction games on the Tiger 800 XC. Now that you have actually shown us something to look at, I thought I might reward that by telling you why I am interested in your offering. By the way, thanks for finally giving us a good look at the bike.

A little about me. I am in my late 40's. The last kid is off to college. I live in Colorado. I have owned mostly off-road bikes or dual sports. I currently ride a WR250F which I have made street legal, which is reasonably easy to do here in Colorado.

I am looking for a bike that I can ride here in Colorado both solo and with my wife along.

I live at around 6,000 ft elevation. The riding here goes from about 4,000 ft along river valleys to over 12,000 ft passes. Due to the large range in elevation, fuel injection is very desirable. A typical trip that I am imagining includes two hours of paved roads to get to dirt roads. The road could go up over a pass over the Continental Divide. At the other end of the day is some more paved road to town for an overnight stay. The next day is similar, a mix of paved and back roads over some other route back home. I have done some of this in the past, solo on a KLR650.

Here are my thoughts on some bikes I have considered:

KLR650
I owned one several years back. It is the only true ADV bike that I have owned. Cramped seating for two, no fuel injection, poor suspension, single cylinder gets buzzy at higher RPMs.

DR650
One of my friends had one. I rode it on many occasions. Cramped seating for two, no fuel injection, better suspension than the KLR, single cylinder can get buzzy. Pretty good for fire roads.

F800GS
Haven't ridden one. My thoughts are based on what I have gleaned from owners on websites, like this one. Nice seating for two. Quirky suspension. Multiple cylinders makes it better for cruising. Although I like working on all the bikes I have owned, and quite a few of my friends' bikes, I wonder how hard it is to do my own work on a BMW. Expensive to buy and expensive to fix.

V-Strom 650
Haven't ridden one. Good seating for two. Simple suspension that can only be improved so much. Love the 90 degree V twin. Poorly designed fairing. Not quite as offroad capable as I would like.

The bigger bikes (1200GS and KTM Adv) are heavier and more expensive than what I need. I am not really considering them. But the 800 XC wasn't designed to compete with them, was it?

(My apologies to the owners of the above bikes for my unknowing assessments. I am trying to give Triumph some honest feedback about why I am interested in their offering. My impressions may be incorrect, but they are affecting my buying decision.)

Here is what I like about what I have seen of the new Tiger 800 XC. The triple will probably be very smooth. I like the inverted forks. Can't tell much about the shock. I would guess that any shortcomings in the suspension will be easier to remedy than with the BMW. Seating looks good for two. Rim sizes should allow for a nice selection of tires.

I am extremely interested in this new bike of yours. I wish that I could say that I will be purchasing one right away, but I will have to wait for more real information from you and an up close look. Even after that I will have to feel a little better about my personal economic outlook before I will be ready to write a check.

As I said at the top, I derided your chosen introduction process for the bike on this forum. Now that you are getting a little more serious about giving out information on the bike, I wanted to let you know what I see in the 800 XC. Next time you introduce a bike, consider using a process that is not as offensive to the people you are targeting the bike at.
What an amazing post! That is, amazingly stupid!

I'm amazed that you can give such forthright opinions on the V-Strom and BMW F800GS while admitting that you have never ridden these bikes... then go on to apologise to owners for your own ignorance! That is amazing! BTW, what is so 'querky' about the F800GS's suspension as it doesn't seem to be dissimilar to that on the new Tiger 800?

You start (and finish) by offering Triumph your special brand of marketing advice. I wonder how rewarded Triumph feel by your 'pearls of wisdom'!

Don't get me wrong, I'm just as keen to throw a leg over the Tiger 800 as the next man and it may well prove to be the 'ants pants', but at least ride a bike an do some credible research before you tell us how good (or bad) a bike is.
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