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Old 01-19-2012, 02:08 PM   #10531
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A couple of weeks ago, there was a big Auto Expo in Delhi, and Triumph was there showing off some of the models they will be bringing to India. They also announced the preliminary pricing. India is a little weird in that any bike over 800cc must be officially imported as a complete bike unless it's being manufactured here (as Harley is doing). Any bike brought in like this is subject to a 100% customs duty, effectively doubling the price. Bikes like the Suzuki Bandit and Hayabusa have to be brought in this way, and therefore a Bandit costs $17,000.

Anything under 800cc, for a new bike anyway, must be brought in as a "Complete Knock-Down" kit, and assembled here. This conveniently bypasses the customs tariff. Since the Tiger is a 799cc bike, I have been hoping that I can buy it for more or less the same price as the real world gets it, which works out to about INR600,000-700,000. However, the pricing list showed the tiger as costing INR1.1million, or about $22,000 . Needless to say, I've written to Triumph's India representative for an explanation, and hope to get an answer soon.
Even the more reason to stick with a used Yamaha 100
There are many countries like India or worse. I heard that a Toyota Corola costs $44,000 in Singapore, that's US dollars
I guess these countries figure you have to be rich to have such luxuries. .
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:47 PM   #10532
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Does anyone know what this little plug is used for?

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Old 01-19-2012, 04:43 PM   #10533
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Sold my 2008 KLR yesterday and pick up my new Yellow Venom Tiger on Saturday. Hope to learn more about the new bike from you FF's so keep the info flowing!
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:52 PM   #10534
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Does anyone know what this little plug is used for?

I believe that is the harness power for the heated grips.
If you plug this into it, you get fused/switched power for your own accessories.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:06 PM   #10535
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I believe that is the harness power for the heated grips.
If you plug this into it, you get fused/switched power for your own accessories.
Interesting......the dealer installed my factory heated grips.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:09 PM   #10536
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It looks to me like it's for the auxiliary running lights. It's flat, with four wires, right? The heated grip connector has only three wires and is more rounded at the edges.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:13 PM   #10537
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It looks to me like it's for the auxiliary running lights. It's flat, with four wires, right? The heated grip connector has only three wires and is more rounded at the edges.
That sounds about right, thanks. I'm gonna tape it up really good to keep the dirt out.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:51 PM   #10538
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I used the Eastern Beaver plug for my heated grip instillation. It's good quality and made the job pretty easy.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:45 PM   #10539
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Wow, good luck with getting around that retarted import law in India.
Yeah, still waiting on the response from Triumph. Since they're the ones selling, they have to deal with the laws. All I can do is pay what they charge. I'm just hoping it's an oversight on their part, and that they will be bringing the Tiger in as CKD, and therefore won't charge the import price.

@eram310: Yes, the price is high, but the Tiger is going to be much more comfortable than just about anything else here. The only other bike I'd even consider getting is the new Hero Impulse, which is basically a Honda 150 trail bike with lights.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:16 AM   #10540
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Pissed Response from Triumph India

I got my response from Triumph India:

Appreciate your thoughts on the Tiger 800XC and its pricing. The bike at
exactly 800cc qualifies for CBU import
and that is the route being taken
as of now.

Off road motorcycles are a bit of an unknown in the Indian market and
hence the call that we have taken to initially import it as CBU. We will
gauge the market and revise our call at an appropriate time if needed.

Best regards,
Ashish

Note the bolded text. Since their website (and probably the engine casting) say 799cc, either they're lying to India, or they're lying to someone else. Does anyone have anything specific on why Triumph went with 799cc? Is it an insurance thing? A road tax category thing? It seems like Triumph is trying to have their cake and eat it too. I'm waiting on the wording of the exact import statute in India, but if it really puts the limit at exactly 800cc, it looks like Triumph might be caught between a rock and a hard place.

I can understand wanting to hedge a bet on a type of motorcycle that is relatively unknown in India, especially since it would mean investing in another production line or more training so they can assemble Tigers too. I just wonder if their worry about low sales might become a self-fulfilling prophecy due to the much higher price.
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:53 AM   #10541
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Why don't you buy a Tiger in another country. Hell, you could fly to the UK & ride it home. I'll bet you can find a used one to buy.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:02 AM   #10542
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I got my response from Triumph India:

Appreciate your thoughts on the Tiger 800XC and its pricing. The bike at
exactly 800cc qualifies for CBU import
and that is the route being taken
as of now.

Off road motorcycles are a bit of an unknown in the Indian market and
hence the call that we have taken to initially import it as CBU. We will
gauge the market and revise our call at an appropriate time if needed.

Best regards,
Ashish

Note the bolded text. Since their website (and probably the engine casting) say 799cc, either they're lying to India, or they're lying to someone else. Does anyone have anything specific on why Triumph went with 799cc? Is it an insurance thing? A road tax category thing? It seems like Triumph is trying to have their cake and eat it too. I'm waiting on the wording of the exact import statute in India, but if it really puts the limit at exactly 800cc, it looks like Triumph might be caught between a rock and a hard place.

I can understand wanting to hedge a bet on a type of motorcycle that is relatively unknown in India, especially since it would mean investing in another production line or more training so they can assemble Tigers too. I just wonder if their worry about low sales might become a self-fulfilling prophecy due to the much higher price.
I doubt any engine is exactly the number of CC's it says it is in the model designation.

I thought Triumph had plans to open a factory in India assembling bike kits imported from the UK ?
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:20 AM   #10543
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I wonder if just bare aluminum wouldn't be the most practical solution for the handrails?
Not sure - is that even an option for the grab rails I wonder - not sure they are aluminum are they ?
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:51 AM   #10544
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not sure they are aluminum are they ?
No they're aluminium.
Why do you yanks leave out an "i"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:03 AM   #10545
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I doubt any engine is exactly the number of CC's it says it is in the model designation.

I thought Triumph had plans to open a factory in India assembling bike kits imported from the UK ?
They are, but not all bikes can be sold that way. Triumph apparently doesn't want to risk investing in an assembly line for the Tiger, since they're not sure it'll sell well enough here to justify the cost. The thing I'm concerned about is that there is apparently an Indian regulation that bikes at or under 800cc *have* to be assembled in India. Bigger bikes can apparently go either way. What I'm trying to ascertain is where exactly the line is; is it 800cc and below, or below 800cc. This is going on the assumption that Triumph's lawyers have reviewed the pertinent regulations and planned accordingly. It's key too that Triumph is apparently taking the position that the Tiger is exactly 800cc for the purposes of being imported into India, when the actual engine is 799cc (the measurement Customs will use). I think they set it at 799 to come in under some limit in the UK, and thus my suspicion that they're caught now.
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