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Old 02-02-2012, 07:19 AM   #10771
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ouch. Sorry to hear that.

Did the chain break, or did it come off the rear?
x 2 ???
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:23 AM   #10772
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No remap yet, as I've only ridden it once since the install. I'm still not sure what I'm going to do because I don't want to lose any mpg, and the bike runs great with the Leo. As you can see the pipe looks stock, especially now since I removed the Leo Vince stickers/emblems, sorry no pics. It weighs quite a bit less too. Also, the quiet insert tip is a smaller diameter than the stock can, which leads me to conclude that maybe it doesn't need to be be remapped.

LV with quiet insert.
Just an FYI. I ride with a guy that runs this same pipe, I have stock. We are out of gas at pretty much the same exact time. I think he has a remap of some sort. I'm a little faster than he is and I enjoy twisting the right hand in the lose stuff. On long gravel/ offroad rides I have even taken a little more gas than he does. So, I would say gas mileage does not change at all.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:34 AM   #10773
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I installed one last year with the original map. Its seemed slightly lean on cold start with the DB killer in place but OK when warmed up. I tried it without the DB killer for a few weeks and you could feel it was lean even after coming up to temp. Too loud for me so I replaced the DB killer.
Since getting the remap for the stalling issue (mine never stalled BTW) the bike seems to run fine. If I do decide to play with the map I'll get a Teclusion so I can play with it rather than have the Arrow map installed.
Good to know. I plan on leaving the DB killer in place. Why not just buy a cable and download maps from Tune ECU? I have one but haven't played with it yet.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:37 AM   #10774
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Just an FYI. I ride with a guy that runs this same pipe, I have stock. We are out of gas at pretty much the same exact time. I think he has a remap of some sort. I'm a little faster than he is and I enjoy twisting the right hand in the lose stuff. On long gravel/ offroad rides I have even taken a little more gas than he does. So, I would say gas mileage does not change at all.
Thanks for the feedback on mpg fbj. Would you mind asking your riding buddy what map he's running?
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:52 AM   #10775
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Thanks for the feedback on mpg fbj. Would you mind asking your riding buddy what map he's running?
He's a mechanic at the local shop and what it sounds like is its the Arrow map. I cant ever get a straight answer from him. Sometimes I don't wonder if they fool around with the computer and do a little self mapping. I will ask again.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:21 AM   #10776
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Did the chain break, or did it come off the rear?
It came off the rear...I rode it the 30 miles home, so I have nearly-new synthetic oil all over the place! I'll take some pictures throughout the repair process so you all can see the before and after.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:31 AM   #10777
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It came off the rear...I rode it the 30 miles home, so I have nearly-new synthetic oil all over the place! I'll take some pictures throughout the repair process so you all can see the before and after.
Keeping your chain tight it critical! So is carrying JB weld with you at all times! I can't believe you rode it home. That would freak me out!
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:56 AM   #10778
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Keeping your chain tight it critical! So is carrying JB weld with you at all times! I can't believe you rode it home. That would freak me out!
And the best way to prematurely wear out your sprockets and counter shaft bearing. Chains need slack for a reason, main one being that the longest a chain will ever be is when the rear axle, swing arm pivot and counter shaft are all in alignment. At that point you still want a bit of slack in the chain. Typical is 1" to 1 1/2". With my DR I can lay on the seat and compress the rear enough to get all 3 aligned, then I just grab the chain and check it.

Our son did the exact same thing on his KTM dirt bike, but on those full race dirt bikes you need to run the chain VERY loose because of the long suspension travel. It was a fine line between "just right" and "too loose". He had it a bit too loose one day and was ripping down a gravel road at full speed, simply backed off and the chain whipped forward and pulled the clutch slave cylinder out of the case, along with a piece of the case. $2800 mistake. KTM sell a $35 case guard that protects against this type of thing but do you think they'd install it at the factory, nope.

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Old 02-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #10779
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Thanks for the feedback on mpg fbj. Would you mind asking your riding buddy what map he's running?
He just told me he is running the Arrow tune.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:59 AM   #10780
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Keeping your chain tight it critical!
Chain was about right, maybe slightly looser than the 1-1.5" I usually keep it. I suspect the little bracket with the rubber stopper that keeps the centerstand from hitting the swingarm when retracted might have played a part in the chain derailing. I think that is one of the few poorly designed parts on the 800XC (the bars in the fuel filler hole and airbox access being a couple of other questionable designs).
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:44 PM   #10781
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Chain was about right, maybe slightly looser than the 1-1.5" I usually keep it. I suspect the little bracket with the rubber stopper that keeps the centerstand from hitting the swingarm when retracted might have played a part in the chain derailing. I think that is one of the few poorly designed parts on the 800XC (the bars in the fuel filler hole and airbox access being a couple of other questionable designs).
Then take it do the dealer and tell them to replace it. That would be a warranty claim.



But I dont see how that could happen...
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #10782
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Already talked to them...they're not going to warranty it based on my "suspicion." I have no proof that bracket caused my chain to derail...could've been a rock that got between the sprocket and chain...
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #10783
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do you have to take the Triumph skid plate off to change the oil and oil filter?
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:07 PM   #10784
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do you have to take the Triumph skid plate off to change the oil and oil filter?
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:19 PM   #10785
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No.
Sweet. I guess Sam Adams and I are doing that tonight...
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