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Old 04-17-2012, 03:05 PM   #12316
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Well, firstly you need to read my post properly. I put in a DNA filter.


The reasoning is that the air filter is buried under the tank and takes an hour to get at. So I put a low maintenance filter in there and put the pre-filter to take out the worst of the dirt. I never said, wrote or quoted that it was for performance. For me it's purely for ease of maintenance.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:21 PM   #12317
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Wouldn't the exhaust efficiency need to be factored in somehow?
In a perfect world you could gain a little extra effective flow from head velocity and a little precompression, but that also assumes perfect exhaust scavenge. For the filter to become the limiting factor, you're talking 20% increase in efficiency from exhaust tuning. That would be pretty impressive.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:57 PM   #12318
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In a perfect world you could gain a little extra effective flow from head velocity and a little precompression, but that also assumes perfect exhaust scavenge. For the filter to become the limiting factor, you're talking 20% increase in efficiency from exhaust tuning. That would be pretty impressive.
Cut out the CAT and put in on the dyno
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:00 PM   #12319
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Cut out the CAT and put in on the dyno
That will increase the exhaust flow but not necessarily increase the volumetric efficiency of the engine beyond what the engine could otherwise pump.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:13 PM   #12320
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So the next job is to unstitch that BMW roundel from your jacket sleeve and replace it with either "TRIUMPH" or ADV embroidery.
Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:22 PM   #12321
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Well, firstly you need to read my post properly. I put in a DNA filter.


The reasoning is that the air filter is buried under the tank and takes an hour to get at. So I put a low maintenance filter in there and put the pre-filter to take out the worst of the dirt. I never said, wrote or quoted that it was for performance. For me it's purely for ease of maintenance.
Oh boy, did I start a discussion or what? Anyway, nobody seems to dislike the DNA, although some people seem to hate the K&N. Anybody have any experience with BMC?
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:24 PM   #12322
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
A friend of mine has a Klim jacket and pants. So far he really likes them, but then he should for CAN$2,000. He hasn't had them very long and I don't think he wore them in a rain storm yet.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:26 PM   #12323
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?

I've got a Klim f4 helmet and a Klim Traverse jacket & pants. Love 'em! Great fit, great attention to detail, and they look good, too. My only issue with the Traverse suit is that it doesn't come with armor, you'll need to buy and install it. The jacket and pants have "pockets" for armor built in, but the armor isn't included.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:05 PM   #12324
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Not sure if they have or not. I was able to get a prototype from them. No real fitment issues. They are a little difficult to install. You need two people. But they are very stout!!!
Interesting. I guess you and AV_Mech are the only two with prototypes out there. I don't have my tiger yet, but that day is getting closer. Trying to decide on options as I learn here.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:08 AM   #12325
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
I know it seems to be the current "in thing" but at 800 for the jacket and 600 for the pants? That's Rukka territory. And for something that might get ripped to shreds on the massive brambles we get over here. Not for me. YMMV.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:39 AM   #12326
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I know it seems to be the current "in thing" but at 800 for the jacket and 600 for the pants? That's Rukka territory. And for something that might get ripped to shreds on the massive brambles we get over here. Not for me. YMMV.
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I have a couple bits of Klim gear and it's good gear but that is just ridiculous prices for stuff that, well, ain't that ground-breaking (despite what the fanbois will say).
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:40 AM   #12327
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That will increase the exhaust flow but not necessarily increase the volumetric efficiency of the engine beyond what the engine could otherwise pump.
Some of the best tuners have been able achieve volumetric efficiencies greater that 1 in a race bike, its not not easy to achieve and those motors wouldn't last very long in a street bike.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:46 AM   #12328
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Has anyone seen this? I can't read it but I'm sure some of you can. I have been looking at the pictures for the last several weeks.

http://www.realizatuaventura.com/201...a/#prettyPhoto
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:29 AM   #12329
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
I have a Klim Latitude jacket - I love it. I wear it with some rukka pants. I find the quality to be comparable. The Klim is much more stout/stiff than the rukka but very comfortable, and I have ridden it in some serious rain with no problems whatsoever.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:51 AM   #12330
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
Klim is great gear, but hardly generic it has more branding than BMW and Triumph combined - there is no angle someone can view you from and not see at least two name logos.
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