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Old 04-27-2012, 10:04 AM   #12466
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Howdy, it's been a loong and snowy winter up here in Finland but now it appears that the back roads are open and filled with mud, soft sand and all that is beautiful in life..
I've been away from the forum for awhile and there seems to be some 300 pages more to this thread so this might be down there somewhere but being lazy I go and ask..
What kind of tyres are you non XC riders using? My goal is to be more dirt orientated than last summer but the Scorpion trails do not give too good support on mud or soft sand. I know that there's not that much room under the std. front fender but could there be enough for TKC80's or K60 Scouts?
I don't know prices or availability of tires in Finland ... but the US has a decent selection. TKC 80's are a good choice but very expensive here.

We get the Michelin T63, but it does not come in Tiger 800 Roadie sizes. But IMO, you might be OK running a 130/17 rear tire if you used a tube. The T63 is only about $65 usd ... most all others are much more.

Finding a front 19" is more a problem. Not so common but better than a few years ago.

Pirelli now make a new dual sport in a 110/19 size: Scorpion Rally. Looks like a MT-21 remake. Also they have a 150/17. Less expensive than TKC 80's.

Kenda now make Tiger sizes with their new Kenda Big Block tire:
150/17 rear, 110/19 front. Pretty expensive here, but not as much as TKC 80 and not as long lasting either.

Dunlop make the D606, but only a 130/17 rear, no 19 front.

Continental make the TKC 80 in Tiger size front and rear ... but double the price here of other comparable tires. $$$$
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM   #12467
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If so, I need the name of your dealer :)
They called today and said end of June now so basically the same story as everybody else.

Gonna go pick the bike up either tomorrow or next week. Time to start riding!!!
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:12 PM   #12468
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I don't know prices or availability of tires in Finland ... but the US has a decent selection. TKC 80's are a good choice but very expensive here.

We get the Michelin T63, but it does not come in Tiger 800 Roadie sizes. But IMO, you might be OK running a 130/17 rear tire if you used a tube. The T63 is only about $65 usd ... most all others are much more.

Finding a front 19" is more a problem. Not so common but better than a few years ago.

Pirelli now make a new dual sport in a 110/19 size: Scorpion Rally. Looks like a MT-21 remake. Also they have a 150/17. Less expensive than TKC 80's.

Kenda now make Tiger sizes with their new Kenda Big Block tire:
150/17 rear, 110/19 front. Pretty expensive here, but not as much as TKC 80 and not as long lasting either.

Dunlop make the D606, but only a 130/17 rear, no 19 front.

Continental make the TKC 80 in Tiger size front and rear ... but double the price here of other comparable tires. $$$$
Thanks for the advise
We have good selection of tires up here and in decent price (but nothing compared to US).
I will check the Scorpion Rallies from my local Pirelli dealer since I've been quite confident on the Trails so far (except on mud of course).
My only problem is that I'm riding mostly on highway (~10k miles/summer) and would really appreciate good durability and proper handling in wet.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:15 PM   #12469
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[QUOTE=Masi;18558288]Thanks for the advise
We have good selection of tires up here and in decent price (but nothing compared to US).
I will check the Scorpion Rallies from my local Pirelli dealer since I've been quite confident on the Trails so far (except on mud of course).
My only problem is that I'm riding mostly on highway (~10k miles/summer) and would really appreciate good durability and proper handling in wet.[/QUOTE]

Then buy Michelins! the Anakee is the best non offroad oriented tire in my opinion.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:50 PM   #12470
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Hawk,
Not a bit of problem with the Motech center stand. You do have to lose the evap canister for it to fit.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:43 PM   #12471
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Then buy Michelins! the Anakee is the best non offroad oriented tire in my opinion.
Sure ... Anakee's are great on roads, wet roads and even some gravel. But in any sort of mud ? You are sunk ... literally. I've used them for years. I like them a lot ... but not so much for off road unless fairly dry. Finland is not real dry, far as I know.

Perhaps running a "Mullet" combo would be right? A Mullet is a knobbie front and Dual Sport tire rear (Anakee, K60, Distanzia, Battlewing). If you can find a good front knobby that works OK on pavement (I have experience only with the TKC 80, D606 and MT-21) and that will wear well ... then may work out OK. Front knobby tire will last double the distance of a rear knobby.
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:44 PM   #12472
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Hawk,
Not a bit of problem with the Motech center stand. You do have to lose the evap canister for it to fit.
I'm Canadian, we don't have one. ;) That's perfect to know, I'll order one at some point this summer.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #12473
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Howdy, it's been a loong and snowy winter up here in Finland but now it appears that the back roads are open and filled with mud, soft sand and all that is beautiful in life..
I've been away from the forum for awhile and there seems to be some 300 pages more to this thread so this might be down there somewhere but being lazy I go and ask..
What kind of tyres are you non XC riders using? My goal is to be more dirt orientated than last summer but the Scorpion trails do not give too good support on mud or soft sand. I know that there's not that much room under the std. front fender but could there be enough for TKC80's or K60 Scouts?
Hi Masi
I run K60 scouts on my F800gs,,,great wear rate,good on the black stuff and off road...no mud here, only sand so cant help you there.
going to be in Finland at the end of july
sent you a PM

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Old 04-28-2012, 02:11 AM   #12474
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Hi Masi
I run K60 scouts on my F800gs,,,great wear rate,good on the black stuff and off road...no mud here, only sand so cant help you there.
going to be in Finland at the end of july
sent you a PM

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I'll chip in for the K60. Thy a great all round tyre. Although I've just changed the front to a Mefo explorer because, although it looks the same as a K60, it has smaller tread blocks. The K60 front does wander in soft mud. The Mefo has a softer carcass and, therefore, flexes more and is better when I ran it at 20psi two weekends ago. Also, the Mefo seems to NOT wear at all. It's taken well over 1000 miles to get rid of the molding frills.
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Old 04-28-2012, 03:25 AM   #12475
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I'll chip in for the K60. Thy a great all round tyre. Although I've just changed the front to a Mefo explorer because, although it looks the same as a K60, it has smaller tread blocks. The K60 front does wander in soft mud. The Mefo has a softer carcass and, therefore, flexes more and is better when I ran it at 20psi two weekends ago. Also, the Mefo seems to NOT wear at all. It's taken well over 1000 miles to get rid of the molding frills.
Much appreciated.
It appears that the K60's are worth of their reputation -> long lasting good traction.

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Old 04-28-2012, 07:52 AM   #12476
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Yep - Easier ABS disabling & ambient temp display would be my vote. The ODO issue...? it stares at you for a few seconds EVERY time you turn the key on - good enough for me. Ordered a temp guage handle bar clip, pg 110, 2012 catalog, from AEROstitch, $10. Will see how it works.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:12 PM   #12477
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So what you're saying is that Hepco & Becker got it wrong as well.
Only difference was a trip to the hardware store was the fix and not a 6 month wait. Works great otherwise. Still, a boneheaded move by someone at HB. The vendor I bought it from notified them of the issue. I suspect someone just put the wrong springs in the kit because they were not even close to fitting.
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:39 PM   #12478
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tune ecu

I was trying to connect to my ECU today with TuneECU to install the latest map that has recently been mentioned in this thread and kept getting an error about not being able to connect. Drivers installed etc... I think I may have an incorrect obdII cable. I believe there are two kinds? Can someone who successfully connects to their bike post a link to the cable they bought? Thanks
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Old 04-28-2012, 02:32 PM   #12479
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I was trying to connect to my ECU today with TuneECU to install the latest map that has recently been mentioned in this thread and kept getting an error about not being able to connect. Drivers installed etc... I think I may have an incorrect obdII cable. I believe there are two kinds? Can someone who successfully connects to their bike post a link to the cable they bought? Thanks
Do you have the latest version of TuneECU? v1.9.9 won't work with the latest tunes. Download 2.2.0.3. Just updated my sons Speed Triple today and it worked fine.
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Old 04-28-2012, 03:57 PM   #12480
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Do you have the latest version of TuneECU? v1.9.9 won't work with the latest tunes. Download 2.2.0.3. Just updated my sons Speed Triple today and it worked fine.
It won't even connect. FWIW I did update to the latest version prior to my latest attempt.
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