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Old 04-26-2012, 06:49 PM   #12511
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SW Motech center stand works just fine for me. If you really want one, I wouldn't wait on Triumph to get it together.
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:26 PM   #12512
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You've had good experiences with the SW-Motech one? I'm interested in it but hesitant to commit for my bike with all the trouble Triumph has had in general.
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:30 PM   #12513
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Yes. I uploaded it as soon as it came out. Just off idle/light throttle seems to be smoother and more linear. I recorded a true 48 mpg (47.8 on the instrument cluster, 48.0 with a calculator) on my first tank with the new map. For comparison I usually averaged about 43 mpg with the previous map, but to be fair this was the first full tank I ran without side cases installed. I only had the top case on, and I suspect that might be worth a couple mpg too.
I tried to upload it to my 800 today and it says the file is corrupted.

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Old 04-26-2012, 08:25 PM   #12514
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I tried to upload it to my 800 today and it says the file is corrupted.

Jim
Make sure you have the latest version of TuneECU (2.2). I tried to open the map with version 1.9.9 and got the same message, but when when I downloaded the latest version of TuneECU I had no trouble opening the map.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:46 PM   #12515
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Yes. I uploaded it as soon as it came out. Just off idle/light throttle seems to be smoother and more linear. I recorded a true 48 mpg (47.8 on the instrument cluster, 48.0 with a calculator) on my first tank with the new map. For comparison I usually averaged about 43 mpg with the previous map, but to be fair this was the first full tank I ran without side cases installed. I only had the top case on, and I suspect that might be worth a couple mpg too.
Thanks, good to know it at least isn't worse. I'll have to put on some miles soon to verify.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:17 AM   #12516
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Make sure you have the latest version of TuneECU (2.2). I tried to open the map with version 1.9.9 and got the same message, but when when I downloaded the latest version of TuneECU I had no trouble opening the map.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:44 AM   #12517
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I was told just a few minutes ago that the new centerstand is exactly like the original except they added a "ball" where it hits the stop. I can't verify, but I'm sure glad I got mine early on. I use it everyday to spin my XC 180deg in the shed.
According to the pictures from Triumph the new centerstand has 2 added bump stops added to the end of each leg. So there will be a total of 3 bump stops, plus the rubber bump stops are different. Supposedly, the rubber stop is the subject of a recall in and of itself.

BTW, my dealer finally did track down the information. The web info I got was correct and they did sell me an old kit that was not technically recalled, but was not supposed to be sold anymore. If it had been dealer installed, with a certain VIN range, then it was a recall item.

So, my dealer has ordered a new kit for me.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:01 AM   #12518
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So, my dealer has ordered a new kit for me.
Very cool. Hope they get it sorted soon, I want to be able to turn the thing 180 degrees where it parks, and practice some field repairs before getting too far off the beaten track. I'm headed to Flagstaff mid-May, probably be wishful thinking it'll come by then.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:38 AM   #12519
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Tyres for Non XC

Howdy, it's been a loong and snowy winter up here in Finland but now it appears that the back roads are open and filled with mud, soft sand and all that is beautiful in life..
I've been away from the forum for awhile and there seems to be some 300 pages more to this thread so this might be down there somewhere but being lazy I go and ask..
What kind of tyres are you non XC riders using? My goal is to be more dirt orientated than last summer but the Scorpion trails do not give too good support on mud or soft sand. I know that there's not that much room under the std. front fender but could there be enough for TKC80's or K60 Scouts?
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:04 AM   #12520
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Howdy, it's been a loong and snowy winter up here in Finland but now it appears that the back roads are open and filled with mud, soft sand and all that is beautiful in life..
I've been away from the forum for awhile and there seems to be some 300 pages more to this thread so this might be down there somewhere but being lazy I go and ask..
What kind of tyres are you non XC riders using? My goal is to be more dirt orientated than last summer but the Scorpion trails do not give too good support on mud or soft sand. I know that there's not that much room under the std. front fender but could there be enough for TKC80's or K60 Scouts?
I don't know prices or availability of tires in Finland ... but the US has a decent selection. TKC 80's are a good choice but very expensive here.

We get the Michelin T63, but it does not come in Tiger 800 Roadie sizes. But IMO, you might be OK running a 130/17 rear tire if you used a tube. The T63 is only about $65 usd ... most all others are much more.

Finding a front 19" is more a problem. Not so common but better than a few years ago.

Pirelli now make a new dual sport in a 110/19 size: Scorpion Rally. Looks like a MT-21 remake. Also they have a 150/17. Less expensive than TKC 80's.

Kenda now make Tiger sizes with their new Kenda Big Block tire:
150/17 rear, 110/19 front. Pretty expensive here, but not as much as TKC 80 and not as long lasting either.

Dunlop make the D606, but only a 130/17 rear, no 19 front.

Continental make the TKC 80 in Tiger size front and rear ... but double the price here of other comparable tires. $$$$
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM   #12521
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If so, I need the name of your dealer :)
They called today and said end of June now so basically the same story as everybody else.

Gonna go pick the bike up either tomorrow or next week. Time to start riding!!!
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:12 PM   #12522
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I don't know prices or availability of tires in Finland ... but the US has a decent selection. TKC 80's are a good choice but very expensive here.

We get the Michelin T63, but it does not come in Tiger 800 Roadie sizes. But IMO, you might be OK running a 130/17 rear tire if you used a tube. The T63 is only about $65 usd ... most all others are much more.

Finding a front 19" is more a problem. Not so common but better than a few years ago.

Pirelli now make a new dual sport in a 110/19 size: Scorpion Rally. Looks like a MT-21 remake. Also they have a 150/17. Less expensive than TKC 80's.

Kenda now make Tiger sizes with their new Kenda Big Block tire:
150/17 rear, 110/19 front. Pretty expensive here, but not as much as TKC 80 and not as long lasting either.

Dunlop make the D606, but only a 130/17 rear, no 19 front.

Continental make the TKC 80 in Tiger size front and rear ... but double the price here of other comparable tires. $$$$
Thanks for the advise
We have good selection of tires up here and in decent price (but nothing compared to US).
I will check the Scorpion Rallies from my local Pirelli dealer since I've been quite confident on the Trails so far (except on mud of course).
My only problem is that I'm riding mostly on highway (~10k miles/summer) and would really appreciate good durability and proper handling in wet.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:15 PM   #12523
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[QUOTE=Masi;18558288]Thanks for the advise
We have good selection of tires up here and in decent price (but nothing compared to US).
I will check the Scorpion Rallies from my local Pirelli dealer since I've been quite confident on the Trails so far (except on mud of course).
My only problem is that I'm riding mostly on highway (~10k miles/summer) and would really appreciate good durability and proper handling in wet.[/QUOTE]

Then buy Michelins! the Anakee is the best non offroad oriented tire in my opinion.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:50 PM   #12524
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Hawk,
Not a bit of problem with the Motech center stand. You do have to lose the evap canister for it to fit.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:43 PM   #12525
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Then buy Michelins! the Anakee is the best non offroad oriented tire in my opinion.
Sure ... Anakee's are great on roads, wet roads and even some gravel. But in any sort of mud ? You are sunk ... literally. I've used them for years. I like them a lot ... but not so much for off road unless fairly dry. Finland is not real dry, far as I know.

Perhaps running a "Mullet" combo would be right? A Mullet is a knobbie front and Dual Sport tire rear (Anakee, K60, Distanzia, Battlewing). If you can find a good front knobby that works OK on pavement (I have experience only with the TKC 80, D606 and MT-21) and that will wear well ... then may work out OK. Front knobby tire will last double the distance of a rear knobby.
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