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Old 04-30-2012, 01:14 PM   #12511
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I run Rigid Dually D2's in Driving mode, with the Hepco-Becker top guard, which I bought specifically because of it's level front pipe and lamp mounts. I ordered the Triumph harness and switch so it matched the heated grip button and it's very nice. I actually aim them slightly splayed as they have a slightly spreading pattern in a "tall oval" shape; this gives me more peripheral lighting while still full power straight ahead too. Very good lights and if you get the Marine ones, they're white, which match the best Tiger 800 XC colour available.

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What mounting system did you use? Any way you could post pictures of this set up? Those lights look nice.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:18 PM   #12512
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Any special reason, why you used the Arrow map?

In the british Tiger800 board somebody contacted LeoVince and they told him that the standard map should be used with their cans as only for the 'original' Arrow can the special map is needed, all other aftermarket cans should work with the normal map!
Here is a email quote I got from Leo Vince after asking the question. "Yea I would recommend you do use the map for the Arrow system. Our system is very comparable."

I'm certainly dont know much about exhausts, dont all or almost all aftermarket exhaust cans (slip ons) somewhat increase air flow compared to the stock? If you look down the stock exhaust, you cannot see through it as you can my Leo (or prob any aftermarket can) which to me alone suggests greater airflow. If thats the case, it would seem logical to me that the richer arrow map will help to compensate for this increase and therefor allow the bike to run smoother? Maybe its just the nice sound that the Leo makes fooling me, but my Tiger feels so much more responsive and torquee since I loaded the new arrow map!

Oh yea, and who cares about gas mileage when your having this much fun!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:29 PM   #12513
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Here is a email quote I got from Leo Vince after asking the question. "Yea I would recommend you do use the map for the Arrow system. Our system is very comparable."

I'm certainly dont know much about exhausts, dont all or almost all aftermarket exhaust cans (slip ons) somewhat increase air flow compared to the stock? If you look down the stock exhaust, you cannot see through it as you can my Leo (or prob any aftermarket can) which to me alone suggests greater airflow. If thats the case, it would seem logical to me that the richer arrow map will help to compensate for this increase and therefor allow the bike to run smoother? Maybe its just the nice sound that the Leo makes fooling me, but my Tiger feels so much more responsive and torquee since I loaded the new arrow map!

Oh yea, and who cares about gas mileage when your having this much fun!!
do you really think its got more torque?
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:53 PM   #12514
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do you really think its got more torque?
Prob has more to do with the smaller front sprocket which I left out...my bad!

Never the less seems to run smoother.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:38 PM   #12515
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I run Rigid Dually D2's in Driving mode, with the Hepco-Becker top guard, which I bought specifically because of it's level front pipe and lamp mounts. I ordered the Triumph harness and switch so it matched the heated grip button and it's very nice. I actually aim them slightly splayed as they have a slightly spreading pattern in a "tall oval" shape; this gives me more peripheral lighting while still full power straight ahead too. Very good lights and if you get the Marine ones, they're white, which match the best Tiger 800 XC colour available.

Chris

Hi Mr_Chris,

So you were able to order the Triumph switch and harness separately without the lights? Being electrically inept I was dreading the wiring of a new set of extra lights, but if the switch and harness can be ordered separately all I that is needed is to hook up the lights. I might actually be able to accomplish that. Did you just ask the dealer or is there actually a part number for just the switch and harness?

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:51 PM   #12516
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Well, I haven't posted in this thread since back in the early days when the 800 was a rumor, mainly because I didn't figure I'd get one, but this week I'm trading in my Daytona and picking up an orange '12 XC in Missouri.

So, I've been reading since I last left off around page 500 or so, and back up to 787. Wanted to see what finally shook out as "must have" farkles and "nice to haves". Getting a feel for it.

My wife really doesn't like to ride so I'm guessing I'll pass on hard cases and sling a soft bag and call it good for luggage. After that I can see a TKC80/K60 tire combo and a couple other little things and that's it.

Going to be tough giving up my track bike but with the floods last year I made it to zero track days and put 150 miles on the Daytona so it was time for it to go. I also live on a gravel road and have an 800' crushed limestone driveway so the Daytona was always an experience just getting to the first paved road. Now it will be fun.

It looks like this thread has dropped down to a core group of posters. fbj913, I'm sure you are wondering but it's not coming from Engel but actually Eldorado Cycle. They made me a killer deal on the trade and seem like good people. I go to Joplin and KC every 4-6 weeks for work so maybe we will run into each other sometime.

Anyway, hope to post pics in a couple of days.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:25 PM   #12517
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Here is a email quote I got from Leo Vince after asking the question. "Yea I would recommend you do use the map for the Arrow system. Our system is very comparable."

I'm certainly dont know much about exhausts, dont all or almost all aftermarket exhaust cans (slip ons) somewhat increase air flow compared to the stock? If you look down the stock exhaust, you cannot see through it as you can my Leo (or prob any aftermarket can) which to me alone suggests greater airflow. If thats the case, it would seem logical to me that the richer arrow map will help to compensate for this increase and therefor allow the bike to run smoother? Maybe its just the nice sound that the Leo makes fooling me, but my Tiger feels so much more responsive and torquee since I loaded the new arrow map!

Oh yea, and who cares about gas mileage when your having this much fun!!
Yes an aftermarket can should increase the flow from the exhaust, but manufacturers are building pretty darn efficient exhaust systems now a days. If you increase the flow of the exhaust but don't touch the intake then all your buying with the exhaust is noise. A motor is simply an air pump and the point of a freer flowing exhaust, is to then open up the intake with either a freer flowing air filter or opening up an air box etc. Then because you're flowing more air through the motor, that's when you should be running a different map to richen it up to match the increased air flow.

I would think running an aftermarket exhaust with the stock air filter you would be fine with the stock map, unless the stock air filter can pull more air than the stock exhaust.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:48 PM   #12518
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An inmate here has some good LED spots and floods

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=607184&page=4

I put a pair of the spots on my hepco tank protector bar and used the Triumph fog light switch and sub loom.
worked very well.

Alas no good pics, because of Garage fire but this sort of gives an idea of what they look like and where they sit (sat)


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Old 04-30-2012, 11:35 PM   #12519
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Well I got to spend a couple days in the woods around western NC, I am truly impressed with the xc. We did mostly fire roads and groomed gravel so nothing crazy. A few spots near the airport in Andrews got a little sketchy for the oem rubber but mostly fine. Got about 120 miles in total and ended up on the skyway after getting into the woods in Andrews by the house. I really have nothing bad to say about the bike. Maybe get rid of the passenger peg mounts, felt those a few times sliding around turns, what a bike.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:32 AM   #12520
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Hi Mr_Chris,

So you were able to order the Triumph switch and harness separately without the lights? Being electrically inept I was dreading the wiring of a new set of extra lights, but if the switch and harness can be ordered separately all I that is needed is to hook up the lights. I might actually be able to accomplish that. Did you just ask the dealer or is there actually a part number for just the switch and harness?

Thanks.
Yeah, just have em grab out the parts catalogue with the drawings, and order the replacement parts, as though you crashed and broke yours or something. I'm sure you pay a bit of a higher price than the cheapest aftermarket, and sorry I don't recall how much mine was anymore, but you can order almost any bit off a Triumph, separately, down to screws and such. Although I've seen screws for $9.50 so I don't recommend buying those in this way.

You need the wiring harness, the button switch, and there's an L-bracket that mounts it with the grip switch... and screws. They are all numbered there in the drawings.

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Old 05-01-2012, 03:34 AM   #12521
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What mounting system did you use? Any way you could post pictures of this set up? Those lights look nice.
I will definitely do so, my bike is getting prepared for Ye Big Olde Shin Digge out at Jingellic and thus I am currently riding a borrowed Speed Triple in my goretex Klim jacket.

Day or two I'll put some piccies to show how mine look.

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:09 AM   #12522
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Well, I haven't posted in this thread since back in the early days when the 800 was a rumor, mainly because I didn't figure I'd get one, but this week I'm trading in my Daytona and picking up an orange '12 XC in Missouri.

So, I've been reading since I last left off around page 500 or so, and back up to 787. Wanted to see what finally shook out as "must have" farkles and "nice to haves". Getting a feel for it.

My wife really doesn't like to ride so I'm guessing I'll pass on hard cases and sling a soft bag and call it good for luggage. After that I can see a TKC80/K60 tire combo and a couple other little things and that's it.

Going to be tough giving up my track bike but with the floods last year I made it to zero track days and put 150 miles on the Daytona so it was time for it to go. I also live on a gravel road and have an 800' crushed limestone driveway so the Daytona was always an experience just getting to the first paved road. Now it will be fun.

It looks like this thread has dropped down to a core group of posters. fbj913, I'm sure you are wondering but it's not coming from Engel but actually Eldorado Cycle. They made me a killer deal on the trade and seem like good people. I go to Joplin and KC every 4-6 weeks for work so maybe we will run into each other sometime.

Anyway, hope to post pics in a couple of days.
Good to hear! I am always out and about somewhere so give me a hollar anytime! I havnt ridden up your way at all so if you know of any areas let me know. Welcome to the XC family!
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:31 AM   #12523
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Well, I haven't posted in this thread since back in the early days when the 800 was a rumor, mainly because I didn't figure I'd get one, but this week I'm trading in my Daytona and picking up an orange '12 XC in Missouri.

So, I've been reading since I last left off around page 500 or so, and back up to 787. Wanted to see what finally shook out as "must have" farkles and "nice to haves". Getting a feel for it.

My wife really doesn't like to ride so I'm guessing I'll pass on hard cases and sling a soft bag and call it good for luggage. After that I can see a TKC80/K60 tire combo and a couple other little things and that's it.

Going to be tough giving up my track bike but with the floods last year I made it to zero track days and put 150 miles on the Daytona so it was time for it to go. I also live on a gravel road and have an 800' crushed limestone driveway so the Daytona was always an experience just getting to the first paved road. Now it will be fun.

It looks like this thread has dropped down to a core group of posters. fbj913, I'm sure you are wondering but it's not coming from Engel but actually Eldorado Cycle. They made me a killer deal on the trade and seem like good people. I go to Joplin and KC every 4-6 weeks for work so maybe we will run into each other sometime.

Anyway, hope to post pics in a couple of days.
Congrats on the bike! I'm probably closer to your neighborhood. Maybe I'll see you out in the wind sometime.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:41 AM   #12524
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Congrats on the bike! I'm probably closer to your neighborhood. Maybe I'll see you out in the wind sometime.
We all need to do a midwest tiger meet and greet!
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:34 AM   #12525
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Yes an aftermarket can should increase the flow from the exhaust, but manufacturers are building pretty darn efficient exhaust systems now a days. If you increase the flow of the exhaust but don't touch the intake then all your buying with the exhaust is noise. A motor is simply an air pump and the point of a freer flowing exhaust, is to then open up the intake with either a freer flowing air filter or opening up an air box etc. Then because you're flowing more air through the motor, that's when you should be running a different map to richen it up to match the increased air flow.

I do understand that the intake, air filter, and exhaust together are only as good as the lowest denominator. However if what you say is true, why is there a arrow map available for those that swap out for the arrow exhaust? Shouldnt they all including the arrow exhaust run fine with the stock map?
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