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Old 05-03-2012, 09:40 PM   #12631
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One downside, this thing is S-L-O-W. Yank her open on a second gear roll and wait for it and wait and wait Shift and wait some more. Where my Daytona would be touching triple digits I might be hitting 70. I know, it's not a sport bike but I was surprised. 95 hp is still 95 hp. My Daytona had a slip-on and a -1 front sprocket as well so it's not fair but I guess it will keep me out of trouble.
keep it singing >6-7K and you will be happier
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:51 AM   #12632
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keep it singing >6-7K and you will be happier
Difficult if he's running in.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:08 AM   #12633
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Difficult if he's running in.
It was a demo so it has 1,000 miles already so I can let 'er fly. I'm sure everyone else has.

I guess my comments are that it seems much slower than a loss of 30 bhp would show but it's no matter. I still like the bike very much.

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Old 05-04-2012, 05:23 AM   #12634
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It was a demo so it has 1,000 miles already so I can let 'er fly. I'm sure everyone else has.

I guess my comments are that it seems much slower than a loss of 30 bhp would show but it's no matter. I still like the bike very much.
Lost power, gained weight. Additionally, the 800 doesn't have the rev range like the 675 where it really hits. It's much more linear power so it will seem slower than it really is since you never get that strong surge.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:44 AM   #12635
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It was a demo so it has 1,000 miles already so I can let 'er fly. I'm sure everyone else has.

I guess my comments are that it seems much slower than a loss of 30 bhp would show but it's no matter. I still like the bike very much.
I think it's all due to your comparing it to your Daytona.

If I get on my XC after stepping off my 1098, the XC seems dog slow.

If I get on my XC after stepping off my KLX250, the XC seems like a missile.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:27 AM   #12636
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It was a demo so it has 1,000 miles already so I can let 'er fly. I'm sure everyone else has.

I guess my comments are that it seems much slower than a loss of 30 bhp would show but it's no matter. I still like the bike very much.
Well, I haven't ridden a Daytona but have ridden the street Triple. Even that rips from 10K upwards.....much fun. The Tiger ends at 10K because of its longer stroke.
But, Triumph also deliberately tuned the Tiger softer because of its intended use. i.e. you really don't want that sort of tyre shredding performance in the dirt. Well actually, the Tiger, as it is, is quite capable of shredding its tyres in the dirt anyway.
Glad you're enjoying your new bike.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:16 AM   #12637
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Tune ECU only works on a pc correct? I have a desktop at work but have been using a macbook at home for the past few years.
Windows only, but it will work in a VM.

I've used it successfully with VirtualBox, and have read reports from others using VMWare.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:34 AM   #12638
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Never ridden one, so I will ask. Does a Daytona pull starting at 2,000 rpm?
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:39 AM   #12639
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Never ridden one, so I will ask. Does a Daytona pull starting at 2,000 rpm?
No but my wife's Street Triple doesn't need to be revved to the moon to go quickly either. That's the beauty of the Triumph Triple, they pull like a twin, but rev like a 4 cyl.

You hear this a lot when guys used to peaky 4 cyl bikes hop on a twin. It's slow, where's the acceleration? Difference between hp and torque. Lots of people who ride my CBF1000 say the same thing and call it boring. It's not boring, it's just linear, so if you're used to that high rpm "hit", you think you are going slow. Yamaha Tenere gets knocked the same way but is as quick as anything else in it's class, except the Multi.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:47 AM   #12640
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But, Triumph also deliberately tuned the Tiger softer because of its intended use.
So it happens I was talking to one of the Latus Racing techs the other day. He's confident another 16hp is available fairly easy, as in swap a custom exhaust cam, download a base tune, then spend a little time on a dyno.

No idea what that does to low end drivability, but there you are. I couldn't get a $$$ figure for what the work would cost at the time. DAKEZ might know more.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:58 AM   #12641
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So it happens I was talking to one of the Latus Racing techs the other day. He's confident another 16hp is available fairly easy, as in swap a custom exhaust cam, download a base tune, then spend a little time on a dyno.

No idea what that does to low end drivability, but there you are. I couldn't get a $$$ figure for what the work would cost at the time. DAKEZ might know more.
There is a thread somewhere of a bloke putting a Street Triple cam in the Tiger. But personally, I didn't buy the bike to go racing. IMO it's just about purrfect for it's intended use and a bit more.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:02 AM   #12642
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You hear this a lot when guys used to peaky 4 cyl bikes hop on a twin. It's slow, where's the acceleration? Difference between hp and torque. Lots of people who ride my CBF1000 say the same thing and call it boring. It's not boring, it's just linear, so if you're used to that high rpm "hit", you think you are going slow. Yamaha Tenere gets knocked the same way but is as quick as anything else in it's class, except the Multi.
I completely agree. I've had people say my Tiger955 is slow and boring. "It's 1000cc, why doesn't it do 160mph?" But then they wonder how you're keeping up with them or, sometimes, beating them along a twisty road AND getting 10mpg more than their "crotch rocket".
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:12 AM   #12643
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There is a thread somewhere of a bloke putting a Street Triple cam in the Tiger. But personally, I didn't buy the bike to go racing. IMO it's just about purrfect for it's intended use and a bit more.
+1

It's the right tool for the job. Never understood this constant need of some for more power.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:39 PM   #12644
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Does anybody have the torque settings for the fork triple tree clamp bolts for a Roadie? The ones that connect the forks to the bike. I don't have my manual with me, but like to have them when I go a shop this afternoon.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #12645
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Does anybody have the torque settings for the fork triple tree clamp bolts for a Roadie? The ones that connect the forks to the bike. I don't have my manual with me, but like to have them when I go a shop this afternoon.
20 Nm or 14.75 lb/ft

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