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Old 06-11-2012, 08:57 PM   #13036
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Holy crap, 60 bucks plus shipping

I think I paid 20 tops to put the GPS in exactly the same place on my Tigger.
Yeah - I'm well aware of that solution and I do like it but I'm considering the tt one for two reasons:

1. No drilling so no damage to stock setup (removable with no permanent changes)
2. The ram ball is higher and more accessible so if I want to remove the gps cradle it's easier and neater.

I think I'm going to go with the setup that goes on the risers anyway.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:10 PM   #13037
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Help! In Death Valley, 1000 miles from home, check engine light on (800XC), service manual obviously at home. Light came on after I killed the bike by putting it in gear with the kick stand down. Or at least that's when I noticed it. Bike starts and runs just as great as it always has. Need to verify this is a standard OBd-2 plug that I can go to an auto parts store and get the code read. If that's the case, is somebody with access to a service manual kind enough to get in touch with me via PM and then phone to tell me what the code means? I'd like to have that info before I go way out of my way to the dealer in Fresno. Once again, just need to confirm that I can get the code read anywhere and then find out what it means. Internet service should be much better tomorrow, but it is almost non existant where I'm at. Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:15 AM   #13038
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Help! In Death Valley, 1000 miles from home, check engine light on (800XC), service manual obviously at home. Light came on after I killed the bike by putting it in gear with the kick stand down. Or at least that's when I noticed it. Bike starts and runs just as great as it always has. Need to verify this is a standard OBd-2 plug that I can go to an auto parts store and get the code read. If that's the case, is somebody with access to a service manual kind enough to get in touch with me via PM and then phone to tell me what the code means? I'd like to have that info before I go way out of my way to the dealer in Fresno. Once again, just need to confirm that I can get the code read anywhere and then find out what it means. Internet service should be much better tomorrow, but it is almost non existant where I'm at. Thanks in advance.
If the bike is running fine, the code may well go away on it's own after 3 (IIRC) heat cycles (start, up to temp and then cool down). Sorry I can't help with the rest.

Good luck AV, you put your Tigger through more than most so we need to keep you running....
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:07 AM   #13039
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If the bike is running fine, the code may well go away on it's own after 3 (IIRC) heat cycles (start, up to temp and then cool down). Sorry I can't help with the rest.

Good luck AV, you put your Tigger through more than most so we need to keep you running....
I have a service manual but I have no idea if the Tiger is OBDII compliant.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:22 AM   #13040
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I have a service manual but I have no idea if the Tiger is OBDII compliant.
Is what I said about the heat cycles sound right Bueller ? Pretty sure that's how it is on my Sprint.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:18 AM   #13041
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Yes it obd11 complient. I keep a bluetooth obd11 dongle under the seat that connects to my phone. Have "Torque" android app on phone.

Pretty much all faults if cleared will extinguish the MIL after 3 cycles - pages 10.36, 10.37, 10.38
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:32 AM   #13042
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I keep a bluetooth obd11 dongle under the seat that connects to my phone. Have "Torque" android app on phone.
That is very cool.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:55 AM   #13043
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Good to know it is obdII. I'd still like to know what the fault was for record keeping purposes. Doing a 450 mile loop today from Death Valley to Yosemite. I'll hit an auto parts store sometime this morning. I'll post back when I get the code. Haven't had three heat cycles yet. The bike doesn't cool much while stopped in the desert! Might get a third in Yosemite today during lunch depending on the exact requirements of a heat cycle. Is it three complete cycles or does it count as one after the bike cools from when the fault first happened?

What are the requirements for reading the code? Just follow the instructions in the reader? Ignition on, then plug in reader? Other way around? What does the manual say for the process?


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Old 06-12-2012, 06:20 AM   #13044
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Thanks, so ~220 lbs and 60%... that sounds about right - I'm probably about a 160 and am finding 30/40% to be a good compromise between ground clearence, comfort and balance to the front end.

Guess you can forget the two-up touring though.
Actually I did a three day trip with the missus at the end of May and the bike did just great. I weight about 175lbs w/o gear and she weighs about 135 lbs w/o gear. The speeds are somewhat reduced of course otherwise I get pummeled in the back, but no handling issues. The bike didn't even sway on that trip, but that might be because I wasn't pushing as hard.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:30 AM   #13045
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Anyone get their gear shift lever return spring TSB done?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:35 AM   #13046
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Is what I said about the heat cycles sound right Bueller ? Pretty sure that's how it is on my Sprint.
In the car biz we called them drive cycles. A drive cycle = starting the vehicle, driving it until the parameters/operating conditions are reached that conform to that particular OBDII test, and successful completion of the test. Usually two successful tests of a particular system would clear the code (and the light), but a historic code would remain in memory and could be retrieved with the scan tool.

An example of this would a gas cap left loose on a car. When the operating conditions are met for an EVAP system test (steady throttle for x seconds, coolant temp sensor reading operating temperature, etc.,) the ecm applies engine vacuum to the fuel system and watches the feedback from the pressure sensor. Since the gas cap is loose the system never holds a vacuum, the test fails, and a fault is stored. Some faults are "two trip" faults, meaning two failures of the test must occur to record a fault and turn on the check engine light, while more critical items can be a single fault failure. In this example, the owner figures out they left the gas cap loose the next time they stop for fuel, they properly tighten the gas cap, and after two successful completions of the EVAP test the light goes out and all is well.

If the T800 is indeed OBDII compliant the same criteria should apply concerning a fault causing a code to set, and successful completion of tests causing the light to go out. But there should still be a historic code. The nature of what it takes to set the code (1 trip or drive cycle versus 2) is dependent on the failure being detected (critical or not).

Hope that helps!
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:35 AM   #13047
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Anyone get their gear shift lever return spring TSB done?
Parts currently on order. They will call me when they come in, and I will get it done as soon as they have an opening. Not something to put off, IMO.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:40 AM   #13048
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Anyone get their gear shift lever return spring TSB done?
Yes, last week, during 6k service.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:58 AM   #13049
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In the car biz we called them drive cycles. A drive cycle = starting the vehicle, driving it until the parameters/operating conditions are reached that conform to that particular OBDII test, and successful completion of the test. Usually two successful tests of a particular system would clear the code (and the light), but a historic code would remain in memory and could be retrieved with the scan tool.

An example of this would a gas cap left loose on a car. When the operating conditions are met for an EVAP system test (steady throttle for x seconds, coolant temp sensor reading operating temperature, etc.,) the ecm applies engine vacuum to the fuel system and watches the feedback from the pressure sensor. Since the gas cap is loose the system never holds a vacuum, the test fails, and a fault is stored. Some faults are "two trip" faults, meaning two failures of the test must occur to record a fault and turn on the check engine light, while more critical items can be a single fault failure. In this example, the owner figures out they left the gas cap loose the next time they stop for fuel, they properly tighten the gas cap, and after two successful completions of the EVAP test the light goes out and all is well.

If the T800 is indeed OBDII compliant the same criteria should apply concerning a fault causing a code to set, and successful completion of tests causing the light to go out. But there should still be a historic code. The nature of what it takes to set the code (1 trip or drive cycle versus 2) is dependent on the failure being detected (critical or not).

Hope that helps!
very helpful.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:00 AM   #13050
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Anyone get their gear shift lever return spring TSB done?
Do you have details on this ?
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