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Old 06-27-2012, 05:57 PM   #13261
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Here's a question that maybe the rest would definitely point me to one model or the other. On road I like to travel at speeds up to 100mph. 80-85 2-up. Would everyone then agree that I'm going to be happier with the road model? Or is the XC just as good as a road bike? On my demo I only got to ride surface streets, I didn't get to open 'er up.

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The XC will do 90 -100 mph all day and do it well.
As for the 2 up question.
I took my wife for an hour ride on my XC sun.
She loved the back seat ,said it was perfect.
With a long susp bike like the XC ,even with a 140 lb passenger ,the rear susp will be quite a bit more compressed than 1 up.
It kind of changes the steering geometry and not for the better. I would say the XC is not a good 2 up bike.
I ve had wifey on all the back of all kinds of bikes but never has it changed the handling charecteristics like it does on the XC.
I think you might be better off on the Road 800
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:24 PM   #13262
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The XC will do 190 -100 mph all day and do it well.
As for the 2 up question.
I took my wife for an hour ride on my XC sun.
She loved the back seat ,said it was perfect.
With a long susp bike like the XC ,even with a 140 lb passenger ,the rear susp will be quite a bit more compressed than 1 up.
It kind of changes the steering geometry and not for the better. I would say the XC is not a good 2 up bike.
I ve had wifey on all the back of all kinds of bikes but never has it changed the handling charecteristics like it does on the XC.
I think you might be better off on the Road 800

Hmmm...my wifey is about 40lbs more.

And I would at least like to be able to pack for an overnighter, change of clothes, etc.

I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't be trying to go for the super tenere.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:14 PM   #13263
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Hmmm...my wifey is about 40lbs more.

And I would at least like to be able to pack for an overnighter, change of clothes, etc.

I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't be trying to go for the super tenere.
Similar situation here....ride a 800XC everywhere. My wife loves riding & the only thing we haven't done on the XC is ride a MX track. In a strong head wind she'll suck Gas like crazy to maintain 80-85mph 2up otherwise she will cruise effortless at 90mph 2 up. Had no issue riding twisty N GA roads with her on the back.
The Super T is great 2up & more of an long distance Adv bike. We rode 900 miles offroad 2 up in S Africa last year & the Tenere was hard to beat.
There were 2 reasons that steered me towards an XC...
1. The XC is lighter & feels like a big dirtbike compared to the Tenere.
2. Yamaha dicked around with delivery for so long...I got tired of waiting
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:39 AM   #13264
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Hmmm...my wifey is about 40lbs more.

And I would at least like to be able to pack for an overnighter, change of clothes, etc.

I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't be trying to go for the super tenere.
Or look into getting the suspension tuned for the weight and type of riding you are going to do. It's simply amazing what Sasquatch has done to my bike. ALL stock suspensions are on the soft side and can be improved soooo so much with a few extra bucks.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:46 AM   #13265
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sasquatch (sp?) suspensions will do a revalve and re-spring for a reasonable price. I may do this later in the summer. I think it was around $350? Call them and check. They are in ID or OR I believe.
His name is Jay. The link in my signature will take you right there. We did the R&D on my bike about two months ago. I can't even begin to describe how much it has transformed my bike.

But I'll try. Sags were out of limits from the factory. Sags were taken with me (170 lbs), ZERO fuel, and no safety gear or luggage of any type. Already sagging too much. We changed the springs in the front and the rear. Valving was changed in the front and the rear. I brought it back for a minor tweak in the front to suit my very aggressive riding style.

Let me just say wow. Bike tracks way better though corners. Accelerates and holds speed though washboard. I have my spring rates set up so that with me, full safety gear, full fuel, and 30 lbs of camping gear, my preload is set at zero. If I add my panniers, like on my cali trip I just got home from, I crank about 25% on. It has been perfect.

Jay is great guy. It is only him running the company and doing all the work. I'd highly recommend giving him a call. He usually has a five day turnaround. The advantage with going with him is, he's had my bike apart. Spring rates have been calculated and he has part numbers of springs to order. At this point, I don't know of another Tiger 800 that has had suspension work done. Jay has the R&D done. We have spent hours together working on it and talking about how it performs. You'll get it done right the first time with him. Can't hurt to give him a call.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:16 AM   #13266
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With a long susp bike like the XC ,even with a 140 lb passenger ,the rear susp will be quite a bit more compressed than 1 up.
Did you use the preload adjuster?
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:56 AM   #13267
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2. Yamaha dicked around with delivery for so long...I got tired of waiting
That's how I ended up with my XC. I have a feeling we are not alone! Great bike!
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:53 AM   #13268
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I'm really liking the 2012 Tiger 800 Roadie in white. Found a demo with about 300 + miles at a dealer that's 2 hrs. from my home. They gave me a price of $12K out the door. (pre-negotiation) Just trying to get an idea of how much discount I should seek because it's a demo. I know that price is always iffy. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks!
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:17 AM   #13269
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I'm really liking the 2012 Tiger 800 Roadie in white. Found a demo with about 300 + miles at a dealer that's 2 hrs. from my home. They gave me a price of $12K out the door. (pre-negotiation) Just trying to get an idea of how much discount I should seek because it's a demo. I know that price is always iffy. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks!
I knew I wanted an ABS Roadie. I knew I wasn't going to pay new prices. I basically waited around for 3-4 months, but I finally found a used '12 with a few accessories (gel seat,fog lights), with <4k miles. Got it for $9500 and only had to drive 2 hours each way. I've seen even better deals out there, just none that were reasonably close enough. Very pleased with my purchase so far. Absolutely love the bike!
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:47 AM   #13270
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The XC will do 90 -100 mph all day and do it well.
As for the 2 up question.
I took my wife for an hour ride on my XC sun.
She loved the back seat ,said it was perfect.
With a long susp bike like the XC ,even with a 140 lb passenger ,the rear susp will be quite a bit more compressed than 1 up.
It kind of changes the steering geometry and not for the better. I would say the XC is not a good 2 up bike.
I ve had wifey on all the back of all kinds of bikes but never has it changed the handling charecteristics like it does on the XC.
I think you might be better off on the Road 800
Have you tried to adjust the rear preload/rebound settings? Just curious. This might make a difference.

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Old 06-28-2012, 09:24 AM   #13271
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I'm really liking the 2012 Tiger 800 Roadie in white. Found a demo with about 300 + miles at a dealer that's 2 hrs. from my home. They gave me a price of $12K out the door. (pre-negotiation) Just trying to get an idea of how much discount I should seek because it's a demo. I know that price is always iffy. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks!
The demo program was discontinued, so the dealer has to foot the bill for any demo discounts. I was quoted the same for a new one on the floor. With just 300 miles I wouldn't expect more than a tank of gas and a t-shirt or something. Maybe a couple of hundred. Maybe get them to throw in one of the accessory items you'd like.

From what I understand they do have a freight charge in on them as well, so you've gotten that thrown into the deal basically at no charge. I have not been able to beat the deal anywhere else other than a resale.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:05 AM   #13272
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I'm really liking the 2012 Tiger 800 Roadie in white. Found a demo with about 300 + miles at a dealer that's 2 hrs. from my home. They gave me a price of $12K out the door. (pre-negotiation) Just trying to get an idea of how much discount I should seek because it's a demo. I know that price is always iffy. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks!
In January I paid (before taxes, etc..) $9300 for my demo 2011 with 1100 miles. Full 2 year warranty of course. I've had zero problems with it.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:53 AM   #13273
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Thanks Chris. I kind of felt that if $12K is what I'd have to pay with freight, it isn't that bad. I did think about asking for an accessory too.

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The demo program was discontinued, so the dealer has to foot the bill for any demo discounts. I was quoted the same for a new one on the floor. With just 300 miles I wouldn't expect more than a tank of gas and a t-shirt or something. Maybe a couple of hundred. Maybe get them to throw in one of the accessory items you'd like.

From what I understand they do have a freight charge in on them as well, so you've gotten that thrown into the deal basically at no charge. I have not been able to beat the deal anywhere else other than a resale.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:48 AM   #13274
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I knew I wanted an ABS Roadie. I knew I wasn't going to pay new prices. I basically waited around for 3-4 months, but I finally found a used '12 with a few accessories (gel seat,fog lights), with <4k miles. Got it for $9500 and only had to drive 2 hours each way. I've seen even better deals out there, just none that were reasonably close enough. Very pleased with my purchase so far. Absolutely love the bike!
Damn, you found one used? I looked and looked for either a 2011 or 2012 XC, but couldn't find one...so this week I pulled the trigger on a new one, and after tax, title and an extended warranty (that DOES cover me dropping the bike on a trail,) mine came to just over 14.

I wish I could have gotten one for 9500 =)
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:39 PM   #13275
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Found XC new XC at a great price

I found a new XC for under $1000 dealer list. The dealer was sitting on 2011 and 2012 tigers and I applied the military discount "Salute a Hero" program and got a $350 instant rebate. It was a deal. The third best deal was a roadie off CL for $8,600 with low miles (sacto deal, deposit given) and second best deal was a 2012 800XC for $10k with $700 miles off CL in Palm Springs met the guy at a Triumph dealer. When I got there he changed his mind and drove away while I sat with a cashiers check in hand... Paid $600 more and got a new one, paid no sales tax,

I am breaking the bike in my way. 127mph top speed coming down the 58 freeway fro Tehachapi, Cali its on the fourth heat cycle. The bike has 114 miles and is on the third oil change. Drove 1,000 miles to get the bike, offset the cost of gas by taking someone off Craigslist>community>rideshare and paid for half the gas. Loaded the bike onto the truck, drove home in two days

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I knew I wanted an ABS Roadie. I knew I wasn't going to pay new prices. I basically waited around for 3-4 months, but I finally found a used '12 with a few accessories (gel seat,fog lights), with <4k miles. Got it for $9500 and only had to drive 2 hours each way. I've seen even better deals out there, just none that were reasonably close enough. Very pleased with my purchase so far. Absolutely love the bike!

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