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Old 07-02-2012, 11:55 AM   #13306
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So either way, if the powerlet is always hot, is there a switched wire provided up there? Otherwise I can tap into the park lamp or something. For a Garmin it's like half an amp.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:03 PM   #13307
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I'm talking about the Tiger 800. Go lift up on the foot peg of one. You'll see it pivots upward. Just like a track bike I never said I had touched down a mount or a shift lever, only the foot pegs. That's more than enough lean for the street. And since I'm speaking from experience I know it doesn't leverage tires off of the ground. Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to host the 2 gig video I shot last summer on the bike down in the smokys or you could see for yourself.

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I'm done w/ the pissing contest. From here out I'll respect the thread try to post constructive info. Thanks to everyone that has posted up in this wealth of knowledge on a TITS UP motorcycle.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:36 PM   #13308
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What I'm talking about. Anyone got photos of an XC that look like this? Bueller? Bueller?
Well I'm just a neutral party here... not ragging on the roadie vs the XC because I think both will drag stuff at steep lean angles. XC has greater ground clearence, but that will largely be offset by fact that its suspenders are significantly softer. And if you missed my earlier post with pix, I've run both a 100/90-19 and a 110/80-19 Anakee2 and the former was quite short on cornering tread compared to the later..... the 90/90-21 Anakee2 I saw was even worse.

I'd be afraid to corner that hard on the XC just due to the front tire - but that's just me.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #13309
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Well several people highlighted the design flaw of the pillion pegs and the risk of damage to the frame.

I unfortunately got to experience the poor engineering first hand in a 25 mph slide on a gravel road.



Still need to get it to the dealer and an insurance adjuster out to see it and a lot of other damage was suffered in what I would have thought of as a minor off. However, the frame is kinked where the pillion peg support had been welded to it which likely means it will be totaled.

The clevis mount for the rider's right peg also was also damaged. It was spread out quite a bit and only the pin stopped it from spreading further. It also looks like it is integral to the frame compounding the problem. To put less pressure on the pin on the trail we were able to close the clevis up some and it took surprisingly little force to close it back up. It is very soft and easily bent.

In the end what was not an unusual or significant off is likely going to result in the bike being totaled.
I feel for you...but if it makes you feel any better...

Last week I spent "straightening" my friend Vstrom that went down at 20-30 mph on hard unpaved surface and bent not only passenger footpeg holder badly but it's mounts to frame and twisted square profile it mounted to.

Last year my other friend on FJR1300 went down at 10 mph, bike slid, hit something (no idea what) and broke off whole massive lug that holds motor in place.

I went down on bulletproof Suzuki DR800 on cobblestone at 60 kmph and only front wheel hittin curb saved my bike frame. However, It got kinked by crashbar that was punched through by piece of stone - go figure. No, I did not even mention it to insurance :) just kept riding it.

My other friend went down with Tiger 800 XC on gravel/clay road at 100 kmph. Scratched plastic, crashbar and sheared off indicator.

Another guy I know went down with 990 Adventure at probably 50 kmph and basically totalled bike.
At same time other guy with 990 went down at 80 kmph at almost same road and - nothing....

This is matter of luck more than anything. I must admit that I'd just get it welded by good welder and keep on riding.

In any case, I sincerely wish you best resolution of this unfortunate case - may be insurance will cough up some money, you can buy 2nd hand Tiger, cut off footpegs and make them removable (as discussed on tiger800.co.uk).
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #13310
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So either way, if the powerlet is always hot, is there a switched wire provided up there? Otherwise I can tap into the park lamp or something. For a Garmin it's like half an amp.
You need to install Eastern Beaver's 3 circuit solution.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Pr...3_circuit.html
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #13311
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You need to install Eastern Beaver's 3 circuit solution.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Pr...3_circuit.html
That guys kits are great. I used the heated grips kit for an easy plug/play with my Oxford grips into the Triumph heated grip plug.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:46 PM   #13312
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You need to install Eastern Beaver's 3 circuit solution.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Pr...3_circuit.html
That's a pretty trick setup! If you knew the basics of 12vdc and could solder, it would be pretty easy to build your own as well.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:59 PM   #13313
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That's a pretty trick setup! If you knew the basics of 12vdc and could solder, it would be pretty easy to build your own as well.
Fits nicely under the seat also.



As far as building your own yes you could but after taking time to locate the parts and putting it together I feel you'd be way ahead by just buying it from Eastern Beaver.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:58 PM   #13314
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Well I'm just a neutral party here... not ragging on the roadie vs the XC because I think both will drag stuff at steep lean angles. XC has greater ground clearence, but that will largely be offset by fact that its suspenders are significantly softer. And if you missed my earlier post with pix, I've run both a 100/90-19 and a 110/80-19 Anakee2 and the former was quite short on cornering tread compared to the later..... the 90/90-21 Anakee2 I saw was even worse.

I'd be afraid to corner that hard on the XC just due to the front tire - but that's just me.
And that's exactly what I was trying to point out. When you consider all factors, the extra height of the XC does not buy it better road handling or faster corner speeds.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:59 PM   #13315
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I'm done w/ the pissing contest. From here out I'll respect the thread try to post constructive info. Thanks to everyone that has posted up in this wealth of knowledge on a TITS UP motorcycle.
I didn't know it was a pissing contest. I thought it was a discussion.

My apologies. I had no idea you were so fragile.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:41 PM   #13316
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I feel for you...but if it makes you feel any better...

Last week I spent "straightening" my friend Vstrom that went down at 20-30 mph on hard unpaved surface and bent not only passenger footpeg holder badly but it's mounts to frame and twisted square profile it mounted to.

Last year my other friend on FJR1300 went down at 10 mph, bike slid, hit something (no idea what) and broke off whole massive lug that holds motor in place.

I went down on bulletproof Suzuki DR800 on cobblestone at 60 kmph and only front wheel hittin curb saved my bike frame. However, It got kinked by crashbar that was punched through by piece of stone - go figure. No, I did not even mention it to insurance :) just kept riding it.

My other friend went down with Tiger 800 XC on gravel/clay road at 100 kmph. Scratched plastic, crashbar and sheared off indicator.

Another guy I know went down with 990 Adventure at probably 50 kmph and basically totalled bike.
At same time other guy with 990 went down at 80 kmph at almost same road and - nothing....
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:28 PM   #13317
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I just used a Powerlet splitter to 2 cigarette plugs to power the gps and satellite radio. mounted 2 marine broom hangers to the handle bars. Gps sits over the speedo via a 3" rammount to a ball in the front windshield bracket.

Move the 30 amp fuse see my post and pix you don't want to have to do this on the trail.
http://www.triumphtalk.com/showthrea...ter-Fuse/page2

sorry I can't post the pic here but all were on my puter that fried. Check my other posts over there for quick and easy farkles. Let me know if you've got any questions

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So either way, if the powerlet is always hot, is there a switched wire provided up there? Otherwise I can tap into the park lamp or something. For a Garmin it's like half an amp.
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:34 PM   #13318
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Move the 30 amp fuse see my post and pix you don't want to have to do this on the trail.
http://www.triumphtalk.com/showthrea...ter-Fuse/page2



At least have one along with, eh?
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:39 PM   #13319
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Would an AI (adobe illustrater) file work for you?? If so I can email or PM the file to you.

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Old 07-02-2012, 11:37 PM   #13320
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And that's exactly what I was trying to point out. When you consider all factors, the extra height of the XC does not buy it better road handling or faster corner speeds.
Ive enjoyed your contributions to this thread. Just out of interest did you try both before settling on the Roadie? (and my apologies if you've already posted on this, this thread is too mammoth to catch everything. In fact I wish there was a dedicated comparison thread).
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