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Old 07-03-2012, 01:38 AM   #13321
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Do you know anyone who knows how to stay on the bike?
Yes, but he does not ride!
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:36 AM   #13322
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Ive enjoyed your contributions to this thread. Just out of interest did you try both before settling on the Roadie? (and my apologies if you've already posted on this, this thread is too mammoth to catch everything. In fact I wish there was a dedicated comparison thread).
Yes, but not at 10/10ths riding since they weren't my bikes. It really just comes down to personal choice and intended usage. They are both fine bikes. For me personally I knew almost immediately the roadie was the better bike for me.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:12 AM   #13323
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I just used a Powerlet splitter to 2 cigarette plugs to power the gps and satellite radio. mounted 2 marine broom hangers to the handle bars. Gps sits over the speedo via a 3" rammount to a ball in the front windshield bracket.

Move the 30 amp fuse see my post and pix you don't want to have to do this on the trail.
http://www.triumphtalk.com/showthrea...ter-Fuse/page2

sorry I can't post the pic here but all were on my puter that fried. Check my other posts over there for quick and easy farkles. Let me know if you've got any questions
Here's mine
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:11 AM   #13324
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At least have one along with, eh?
It could take a couple of hours on the road (more at night) vs 30 seconds after the relocation
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:16 AM   #13325
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The powerlet socket at the steering head is switched with the ignition.
No it's not. It's always live.

EDIT: I see I'm late to the party; this was already covered a page ago.

To stop this post from being totally useless, I'll reply to the destroyed passenger footpeg discussion instead. I agree with Bluesman, I'd just get the footpeg bracket welded back on and be done with it. Insurance companies are far too quick to total an otherwise-fine bike. I probably wouldn't even report it to insurance, just fix it myself.

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Old 07-03-2012, 11:56 AM   #13326
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So either way, if the powerlet is always hot, is there a switched wire provided up there? Otherwise I can tap into the park lamp or something. For a Garmin it's like half an amp.
The heated grip connector is a 3-pin Econoseal connector that has switched, unswitched, and ground. Eastern Beaver carries them. The Aux light connector also has those, but it's a slightly harder to find part (AMP 40/70 Multi-Lock, 4 pin). Both are under the tank, right up at the steering head.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:12 PM   #13327
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I agree with Bluesman, I'd just get the footpeg bracket welded back on and be done with it. Insurance companies are far too quick to total an otherwise-fine bike. I probably wouldn't even report it to insurance, just fix it myself.

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I may have considered this, however the bracket is not joined to the frame with a butt weld it is a fillet weld with the bracket going into the frame and the frame acting as a welding socket and I am not confident that the integrity of butt weld joint would be appropriate or safe to its purpose. The bracket bent near the frame but there was no damage to the weld. The leverage of the bending action on the portion of the bracket within the frame kinked the frame itself though. Also the bracket itself is no longer the correct length even if I cleaned up the frame and tried a butt joint.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:34 PM   #13328
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Well I'm just a neutral party here... not ragging on the roadie vs the XC because I think both will drag stuff at steep lean angles. XC has greater ground clearence, but that will largely be offset by fact that its suspenders are significantly softer. And if you missed my earlier post with pix, I've run both a 100/90-19 and a 110/80-19 Anakee2 and the former was quite short on cornering tread compared to the later..... the 90/90-21 Anakee2 I saw was even worse.

I'd be afraid to corner that hard on the XC just due to the front tire - but that's just me.


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And that's exactly what I was trying to point out. When you consider all factors, the extra height of the XC does not buy it better road handling or faster corner speeds.
And I was pointing out was that the roady touches down way before the XC causing the average rider (I'm in this group) to back off before they find the performance limit of the front tire. YMMV. Just my opinion here, but if you're consistently dragging parts off or folding the pegs up on these bikes maybe the speed triple or the street triple would have been a better choice. I looked hard both, but knew I would be off the road as well, so I went with the XC. If I want to play racer, I've got another bike for that.



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I didn't know it was a pissing contest. I thought it was a discussion.

My apologies. I had no idea you were so fragile.
Apology accepted. My psyche is often damaged by random individuals on the world wide interwebs whom I don't share the same opinion with.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:40 PM   #13329
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Have some stuff for sale for the Tiger 800/800XC. Thought I would post the link in here. Thanks for looking!!

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803460
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:07 PM   #13330
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I may have considered this, however the bracket is not joined to the frame with a butt weld it is a fillet weld with the bracket going into the frame and the frame acting as a welding socket and I am not confident that the integrity of butt weld joint would be appropriate or safe to its purpose. The bracket bent near the frame but there was no damage to the weld. The leverage of the bending action on the portion of the bracket within the frame kinked the frame itself though. Also the bracket itself is no longer the correct length even if I cleaned up the frame and tried a butt joint.
The idea is to create different than original breaking point. E.g. you do not need to concern about weld connection.
To be honest (and I am wearing my hat of ex-mechanical designer/engineer) good quality weld will never be lacking strenght for this application. It is matter of good, pro, deep weld.

Weld couple of pieces of pipe to frame. Have bracket heated and straightened. Cut and clean ends of bracket.
Then check what I proposed here:

http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,5751.0.html

Next time it happens - it will take 5 mins of roadside repair and no damage to anything except disposable inserts.
When my bike runs out of warranty I do it anyway.
Kinked frame tube makes no difference for handling, chassis strenght or driveability. If bike destined for gravel roads it must be taken as occupational hazard that there will be kinks and scraps etc.
I am sure when you will think about it few months from now riding bike with "removable" rear pegs you will feel good about it. No need to feel down about such small issue.
Unless you do want to have it written off. Do not know what is your insurance conditions - if they will pay easier to get new frame.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #13331
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Since we do not know each other, we do not know each other’s riding ability.
I believe that I am an experienced street rider that also ride with the advanced groups at track days organization. On the other hand I am a mediocre off roader that can barely keep up with the c riders when trail riding and not participating in Enduros.

The Tiger 800 is an excellent bike and I can ride it in the corners almost as fast as a sport bike. I do have to get off the seat more in order not to scrape, and when I do, I just back off the throttle. On the other hand it’s great on badly paved roads and on gravel roads. Last year I owned a street triple R and only on very good pavement, I could ride it as fast as the Tiger. Stock, it has too stiff of a suspension for my 160LBs even when backing off all rebound and compression damping to minimum. After thinking about how much it would cost to change the suspension, I decided to sell it and buy the roadie 800, which is also much more functional.




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Well I'm just a neutral party here... not ragging on the roadie vs the XC because I think both will drag stuff at steep lean angles. XC has greater ground clearence, but that will largely be offset by fact that its suspenders are significantly softer. And if you missed my earlier post with pix, I've run both a 100/90-19 and a 110/80-19 Anakee2 and the former was quite short on cornering tread compared to the later..... the 90/90-21 Anakee2 I saw was even worse.

I'd be afraid to corner that hard on the XC just due to the front tire - but that's just me.




And I was pointing out was that the roady touches down way before the XC causing the average rider (I'm in this group) to back off before they find the performance limit of the front tire. YMMV. Just my opinion here, but if you're consistently dragging parts off or folding the pegs up on these bikes maybe the speed triple or the street triple would have been a better choice. I looked hard both, but knew I would be off the road as well, so I went with the XC. If I want to play racer, I've got another bike for that.





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Old 07-03-2012, 03:35 PM   #13332
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The idea is to create different than original breaking point. E.g. you do not need to concern about weld connection.
To be honest (and I am wearing my hat of ex-mechanical designer/engineer) good quality weld will never be lacking strenght for this application. It is matter of good, pro, deep weld.

Weld couple of pieces of pipe to frame. Have bracket heated and straightened. Cut and clean ends of bracket.
Then check what I proposed here:

http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,5751.0.html

Next time it happens - it will take 5 mins of roadside repair and no damage to anything except disposable inserts.
When my bike runs out of warranty I do it anyway.
Kinked frame tube makes no difference for handling, chassis strenght or driveability. If bike destined for gravel roads it must be taken as occupational hazard that there will be kinks and scraps etc.
I am sure when you will think about it few months from now riding bike with "removable" rear pegs you will feel good about it. No need to feel down about such small issue.
Unless you do want to have it written off. Do not know what is your insurance conditions - if they will pay easier to get new frame.
This is brilliant. But why wait for warranty to run out? I'm going to do mine right away. A broken frame and welds, or bent frame is just unacceptable. Somebody should make the connectors pieces and sell them. I would buy 3 sets!
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:43 PM   #13333
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Would you buy it again

I currently have an 03 Dakar and considering an 800 xc. I have like the looks of the XC ever since they came out.

Although the new Explorer looks nice, as well. I am leaning toward the XC over the Explorer but who knows.

So I have a couple of questions.

1) Would you buy an XC again
2) How is the mileage
3) If you where buying today would you get a Explorer over the XC

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Old 07-03-2012, 07:23 PM   #13334
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Small magnetic tank bag that fits the Tiger 800

Looking for a small magnetic tank bag that has a relatively a large map case (for a direction route sheet) and water proof.

The bag has to in a size that will allow standing on the pegs without obstructing.
I was in a Sport touring event last week and I tried this http://roadgear.com/magnetic-compact-tank-p-81.html
It works well, but doesn't have any zippers or pockets. looking for something like this or wider that has more pockets.

Thanks,
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:47 PM   #13335
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I currently have an 03 Dakar and considering an 800 xc. I have like the looks of the XC ever since they came out.

Although the new Explorer looks nice, as well. I am leaning toward the XC over the Explorer but who knows.

So I have a couple of questions.

1) Would you buy an XC again
2) How is the mileage
3) If you where buying today would you get a Explorer over the XC

Thanks,
Tug

Absolutely would buy it again, love this bike.
My mileage has been great, 45 mpg is common with higher numbers when trying to be light on the throttle.
I went and rode an Explorer, very big bike and no way would I or could I throw it around like my xc. The 800 on the right roads does long sweeping power slides like a champ, lofting the front wheel over rises is simple and painless. It's really a neat bike.
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