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Old 07-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #13546
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The best mod I have done to my bike. Getting the suspension reworked by Sasquatch....................
After my last long 4,000 mile trip my suspension is now done for as well. I'm at 13,000 miles of hard riding as well. I will have to give him a call. I love custom suspension. The cost is always hard to swallow but its always worth it!
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:42 PM   #13547
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I'm in the planning stages of my next bike , I presently own a Scrambler which I plan on keeping but I am thinking of a Tiger 800 for my next bike. I apologize for not going thru all 900 pages of thread but I dont have the spare time and a short attention span.

A few questions:

How is it for touring? Not cross country but 300-400 mile days one up with maybe 75Lbs of luggage. A few years ago I thought about a Wee-Strom but I thought it was a little underpowered. Maybe a few jaunts on the interstate but mostly a mixture of two lanes and gravel roads would be the norm. Have done a couple of 600 mile days with just my knees aching at the end of it. The wee would also do it but you wouldn't enjoy yourself as much. Am getting 52mpg average - 58 mpg for steady cruising at 120km/h


Have the reliablity issues been fixed ? I remember reading of some stalling issues early on. Any high failure parts?
Stalling issue seems to be build up of dust on stepper motor actuator arm. Triumph also loaded a new tune. We're onto our 3rd tune now

How are they maintenance wise ? I dont have a dealer within 150 miles so I will be doing all my own maintenance. Anyone out there have over 30k miles on their 800?
Quite a few with high mileage already. Check out tiger800.co.uk. Valve check at 12,000 miles seems to have a couple of valves requiring setting. Otherwise oil & filter and you're done.

Anyone buy one and not like it? I have only seen a couple on the road , both said it was a great bike but they were pretty new owners.
Love mine. 15 months on and I'm still having fun. De-catting it this week..
not totally true. stalling issue was fixed with the tune.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:50 PM   #13548
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I'm in the planning stages of my next bike , I presently own a Scrambler which I plan on keeping but I am thinking of a Tiger 800 for my next bike. I apologize for not going thru all 900 pages of thread but I dont have the spare time and a short attention span.

A few questions:

How is it for touring? Not cross country but 300-400 mile days one up with maybe 75Lbs of luggage. A few years ago I thought about a Wee-Strom but I thought it was a little underpowered. Maybe a few jaunts on the interstate but mostly a mixture of two lanes and gravel roads would be the norm.


Have the reliablity issues been fixed ? I remember reading of some stalling issues early on. Any high failure parts?

How are they maintenance wise ? I dont have a dealer within 150 miles so I will be doing all my own maintenance. Anyone out there have over 30k miles on their 800?

Anyone buy one and not like it? I have only seen a couple on the road , both said it was a great bike but they were pretty new owners.
The tiger does it all great. You will have no problem covering ground on the tiger. 300-400 mile days are pretty tame.
It is reliable. Just like all Triumphs.
I ride with a guy thats got almost 30k on his. He's had no problems.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:16 PM   #13549
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How is it for touring? Not cross country but 300-400 mile days one up with maybe 75Lbs of luggage..
Needs a good windscreen, that's for sure. Madstad.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:34 PM   #13550
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My new favorite farkle is an Airhawk R. Very awesome product. I was tempted to buy a better seat, but this is way better.


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Old 07-15-2012, 05:40 PM   #13551
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I'm in the planning stages of my next bike , I presently own a Scrambler which I plan on keeping but I am thinking of a Tiger 800 for my next bike. I apologize for not going thru all 900 pages of thread but I dont have the spare time and a short attention span.

A few questions:

How is it for touring? Not cross country but 300-400 mile days one up with maybe 75Lbs of luggage. A few years ago I thought about a Wee-Strom but I thought it was a little underpowered. Maybe a few jaunts on the interstate but mostly a mixture of two lanes and gravel roads would be the norm.


Have the reliablity issues been fixed ? I remember reading of some stalling issues early on. Any high failure parts?

How are they maintenance wise ? I dont have a dealer within 150 miles so I will be doing all my own maintenance. Anyone out there have over 30k miles on their 800?

Anyone buy one and not like it? I have only seen a couple on the road , both said it was a great bike but they were pretty new owners.

12000 miles on my 2012 T800. I have no problem with 500 mile days with the stock windshield. I wouldn't want to travel 2-up but solo it's a great ride.

Oh I did have to have the seat modified to suit my ass but I do that with every bike I buy.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:54 PM   #13552
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not totally true. stalling issue was fixed with the tune.
My bike has the latest tune, and stalls on occasion for no reason.
the other day, it stalled as I pulled away from a light and almost didn't start. It never stalled before I got the latest tune.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:10 PM   #13553
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My bike has the latest tune, and stalls on occasion for no reason.
the other day, it stalled as I pulled away from a light and almost didn't start. It never stalled before I got the latest tune.
Sounds unsafe. I would take it to a dealer.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:13 PM   #13554
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How is it for touring? Not cross country but 300-400 mile days one up with maybe 75Lbs of luggage. A few years ago I thought about a Wee-Strom but I thought it was a little underpowered. Maybe a few jaunts on the interstate but mostly a mixture of two lanes and gravel roads would be the norm.

This is why I bought mine, for solo as well as two-up. There's not problem with payload capacity nor power and performance for whatever you throw on it. The tiger is everything the DL650 is not. It's lightyears better in all ways.
It is an abolute delight 2-up. Very comfortable, handles and rides very nicely. My wife and I are about 350lbs together. We tried GS and Tenere, the Tiger is just as comfortable and about a hundred pounds less weight.


Have the reliablity issues been fixed ? I remember reading of some stalling issues early on. Any high failure parts?

Stalling issues was from a previous ecu program that affects the idle stepper motor. There are also stalling issues associated with dirty stepper motor linkage. Of the entire bike that is the only issue that I've been able to track down through this thread. Of the bikes affected, my understanding is they have all be fixed under warranty.

How are they maintenance wise ? I dont have a dealer within 150 miles so I will be doing all my own maintenance. Anyone out there have over 30k miles on their 800?

I only have a few hundred on a brand new one, but will also be doing all my own maintenance even though the dealer is just a few miles away. I've always done my own maint. on everything I own. Whatever is spec'd in the service manual to be done by a tech, I know I can also do.

Anyone buy one and not like it? I have only seen a couple on the road , both said it was a great bike but they were pretty new owners.
As mentioned, another new owner. I guess the question is, have you ridden one yet? If you're an experienced motorcycle rider I suspect you'll find what the other owners found when they rode one. It's a fantastic bike that fills a fairly unique niche. The only peer is the F8, and for me, the Tiger had the road accumen that I was looking for.

After my few hundred miles these are my complaints:

There is a lot of heat that comes up from the radiators when the motor gets hot. Noticable at slow speeds and in traffic. Otherwise it's a non-issue.

The passenger seat slopes forward and was too firm so I remade mine and installed a new cover.

I don't like that there are tubes in the tires, and they didn't even supply a tool in the took kit to remove the front wheel. Without a way to jack up the bike (or a centerstand) there is no way to repair a flat out on the road. I installed a centerstand and carry a pump, irons, patch and tubes. I can live with it. I like the 21" front wheel and strong spoked wheels.

I get clean air with the stock screen so I'm happy with it. I can't say that about any other motorcycle I have owned (which is just a few).

I don't like that the passenger footpeg brackets are welded to the frame. There is no subframe and those pegs are integral. There have been some broken welds and dented fromes from low speed drop overs. I may modify them to be breakaway and field repairable.

The instrument computer is a little clunky. Hard to get to the odometer and abs turn off. Just takes some familiarization.

The rear shock is exposed to all manner of road debris from the back tire. Needs a plastic or rubber guard in front of the rear tire.

The bars feel quite wide. and they are swept back to far at the center setting for my taste. I have rotated mine almost all the way up and they are much more comfortable. They set you into the attack stance which improves bike control. For some it seems this can be fatiguing. One guy sold his because he couldn't get comfortable on it, had back and neck pain. Could have been unrelated to the bike however.

The bars also have end inserts for the cheapo plastic handguards. Makes it difficult to fit a real backbone type aftermarket handguard.

First gear is quite tall, and all the gears are quite closely spaced together. Makes for smooth operation, but first could be lower and 6th could be just a tad taller with wider spacing between all. Not a deal breaker, but it's noticeable.

These are the nitpicks. The bike is truely stellar, with so many positive traits it's hard to put into words. Very comfortable to ride.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:19 PM   #13555
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After my last long 4,000 mile trip my suspension is now done for as well. I'm at 13,000 miles of hard riding as well. I will have to give him a call. I love custom suspension. The cost is always hard to swallow but its always worth it!
How was your trip? Sorry we never got to meet up.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:33 PM   #13556
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We did a 700 mile loop over the weekend (Sat/Sun) and therefore I feel I can comment on some of this better than I could before.

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There is a lot of heat that comes up from the radiators when the motor gets hot. Noticable at slow speeds and in traffic. Otherwise it's a non-issue.
I guess this really comes down to personal sensitivities. We were in quite some traffic today for about 30 minutes and it was around 38C (100F) and other than the heat that dried me out, burned through my whole body, roasted my arms, ... there was really not much the bike contributed to it. Riding in heat is uncomfortable. We were in full riding gear which for me means long underwear, BMW Airflow pants with mesh inlays, BMW Ralley 2 jacket, Airflow gloves. Was it hot? Of course. Was the bike adding to the heat in any way that I felt was significant? Not at all.

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I don't like that there are tubes in the tires
This was the reason for me to get the Roadie. All other things, I could have lived with but I wasn't going to put up with tubed tires on my touring bike (that's what the Tiger is for me).

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I get clean air with the stock screen so I'm happy with it. I can't say that about any other motorcycle I have owned (which is just a few).
Palmer screen solved that for me. Works quite well.

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The rear shock is exposed to all manner of road debris from the back tire. Needs a plastic or rubber guard in front of the rear tire.
Yeah, that's quite stupid. Easily solved, but it's again throwing money (even if it is cheap) at something that shouldn't be a problem right from the factory.

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The bars feel quite wide. and they are swept back to far at the center setting for my taste. I have rotated mine almost all the way up and they are much more comfortable. They set you into the attack stance which improves bike control. For some it seems this can be fatiguing. One guy sold his because he couldn't get comfortable on it, had back and neck pain. Could have been unrelated to the bike however.
I haven't figured that part out either yet. My right shoulder/neck area is killing me at the moment after the long weekend ride. So far I tried Rox Risers, XC risers on my Roadie, just standard, and they all have advantages and disadvantages but I'm not really happy with with any of that yet. Not sure what I'll end up with.

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First gear is quite tall
It certainly is. Stalled the bike twice today trying to start from steep uphill position. That didn't happened to me in the last 10 years on any bike I owned and I'm quite used to the Tiger now after 2.2k miles.

Gearing and suspension are my main complaints. Not much I can do about the gearing, but I actually might put a smaller front sprocket on to try it out. Will make the 6th even shorter but it might also solve the problem that 60mph is right where my Tiger vibrates the most (around 4k).

Suspension can be sorted in some affordable and some less affordable ways, from re-valving to fully adjustable cartridges and shocks everything is possible. The bike is so good overall that this feels worth it.

Btw: we did a fairly slow and very smooth and relaxed ride, some freeways at 65 to 70, some highways and backroads at 40 to 60mph and also a lot of National Park roads and I averaged 4.2L/100km (56mpg). Should ride with my wife more often. She was on her F650GS and got 3.3L/100 (71mpg) btw.

Overall verdict: Brilliant bike. Lots of fun, some easy to fix niggles, gearing could be better (but I can easily live with it), suspension will need to get sorted like on most bikes in that class. Absolutely great for backroad fun, really nice for midrange touring (300 to 400 mile days). Can do longer, but prefer not too. Too much fun going on backroads where you can't do the miles ...
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:49 PM   #13557
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Found another Fuel exhaust video. I watched this right when I first got my bike. When he pulled the baffle out, I couldn't get my credit card out fast enough. Take my money!!!

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Old 07-16-2012, 07:12 AM   #13558
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I LOVE the Shinkos. I got 4700 out of my first rear. And 3400 of those miles were fully loaded with panniers on. The front will always wear out slower than the rear. Usually by a rate of 2 to 1. So, I'm on my second 705 rear. I like the price and mileage. Also gets the best traction off road of the three rear non-knobbies I've run. It beats the Tourance everywhere. I got 5700 out of the Tourance for twice the price. IMO the 705 gets better traction everywhere. And I get to put a new one on sooner for half the price. That's getting your money's worth. I liked the Battlewing a lot too. But once again, the 705 is cheaper and I think it does better everywhere. The BW beat the Tourance and the 705 beats em both.
If you like the 705, try the Full Bore M-40. Same tread pattern, though the spaces between the lugs are a little wider (on the 150/70-17 at least), making it slightly more aggressive for offroad use. And it's V-rated instead of H. And lasts a lot longer -- I wore out my 705 rear tire in 4500 miles, but am at almost 6000 on the M-40 rear and it looks like it should last another 1000 miles or so.

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Old 07-16-2012, 08:20 AM   #13559
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Found another Fuel exhaust video. I watched this right when I first got my bike. When he pulled the baffle out, I couldn't get my credit card out fast enough. Take my money!!!

Sounds great, curious if any remap is necessary? If not, does it run any differently at low speeds, part throttle, or cruising speeds?
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:19 AM   #13560
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XC owner here. My first ADV bike, and the first I've toured on. (I sold a Valkyrie Interstate to get it, but I never toured on it.) I've done a few 300 mile days and a few overnights, and the bike is perfect for it, even on the superslab. No iron butt stuff, I need a new seat first. But stock is tolerable for 6 hours plus breaks. I'm actually on a three week business trip in PA righ now and I rode the bike instead taking the car. I'm guessing I had a hundred pounds on the bike including panniers, top box, tank bag, and backpack strapped to the pillion seat. I'd like a slightly stiffer rear spring, as I still have 3" sag with full preload when I'm solo/unloaded. But it rides nice and still handles regardless.

If you're debating roadie vs XC, don't be afraid of the XC on the road. I come from a sportbike background (I have a Speed Triple, Duck 996, and SV650 track bike), and I am not disappointed at all with th XC. I you feel the handling is sluggish, raise the forks 5-10mm, and it really carves. No more though, because it'll get twitchy and nervous at speed. It takes a slightly different riding style in the corners. The brakes are weak (by sportbike standards) and the suspension a little soft, so it's not really happy jamming on the brakes and slamming into a corner. It's much more rewarding to ride smooth and graceful.

I am NOT arguing the benefits/trade offs of the roadie, as I've never ridden one. I'm just saying the XC DOES work very well on the road.
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