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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #13726
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parts!

Thank-you for the research kawidad. I will keep it for reference, but it does look like I will need it this time.

Great news, the parts are at the shop! I called down there this moring asking when they would be able to get them on and they told me Saturday! ahahah. I'm going to take a taxi across La paz and eee if there is anything I can do to speed it up ie. do it myself or if they won't let me do it there, I'm also thinking I could roll the bike out of the shop and doing it myself.

thanks for all the Support Adv riders! I will let you know how if works out.

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Clay, I wish you the best and hope things turn out well and hope this helps.

Supposedly, and I say that because I have no personal knowledge if this is accurate, but it does come from a vendor's website. (Pro-Tek sprockets) But, the following are cross references to front sprockets from other brands of bikes that will work for the Tiger 800. The chains are obviously going to be the same pitch.

http://www.protekk.com/media/documen..._app_chart.pdf

Kawasaki
'08-'12 EX250F Ninja, '87-'09 EX500A/D, '90-'95 ZR550 Zephyr
'90-'04 ZX6D/E, '07-'12 ZX6R, '06-'12 EX650 Ninja, '07-'12 KLE650 Versys
'87-'03 ZX750F1-F4/H/J/L/RK/R/RR ZX7/7R/7RR, '95-'05 VN800A/B Vulcan
'94-'03 ZX9R, '03-'12 Z1000, '04-'12 ZX10R, '11-'12 Ninja 1000


Suzuki
'89-'93 GS500E, '89-'09 GSX600F Katana, '92-'12 GSXR600
'94-'97 RF600R, '04-'12 DL650 V-Strom, '95-'03 GSF600S Bandit
'05-'12 GSF650S Bandit, '08-'11 GSX650F, '09-'11 SFV650 Gladius
'99-'08 SV650, '07-'10 SV650(ABS), '99-'12 SV650S, '11-'12 GSR750
'89-'97 GSX750F Katana, '86-'12 GSXR750, '97-'01 VZ800Z Marauder
'94-'97 RF900R, '02-'11 DL1000 V-Strom, '03-'07 SV1000/S
'97-'03 TL1000S/R, '01-'08 GSXR1000, '88-'93 GSX1100F
'86-'98 GSXR1100, '97-'11 GSF1200/S/SA Bandit
'10-'12 GSX1250FA/SEA, '99-'07 GSX1300R Hayabusa


Yamaha
'94-'07 YZF600R, '89-'99 FZR600, '92-'93 TDM850/C

Triumph
'06-'12 675 Daytona, '11-'12 675 Daytona R, '08-'12 675 Street Triple, '10-'12 Street Triple R, '11-'12 800 Tiger, '11-'12 800 Tiger XC

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'04-'09 GT650, '10-'12 GT650 EFI, '05-'12 GT650 R/EFI & '05-'09 GT650 S
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:37 AM   #13727
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So yesterday I brought my Tiger in to the dealer's service department for the first time (I do all my own service). Didn't have a choice in this case because it needed the various recalls/TSBs done -- gear shift return spring, center stand, updated EFI map, etc.

I've been putting this off because the bike has been running perfectly and I didn't want anyone messing with it. But I'm heading up to Labrador next month so wanted to get everything in order beforehand.

Picked the bike up yesterday evening, rode it home, parked it, and watched a puddle of oil start to form underneath it. The clutch cover is leaking (it had to be removed to replace the gear shift return spring).

I'm fucking pissed, and my complete lack of faith in dealership mechanics has been strengthened. Does nobody check their fucking work anymore? This is not rocket science, for fuck's sake. They've taken a perfectly-functioning, completely reliable bike and introduced a major problem that didn't exist before. This makes me want to start punching babies... theirs, preferably.

I'm heading over there shortly to make them fix it. Meanwhile, end of rant.

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:37 AM   #13728
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Several rides-some light off-road, but no long interstate romps. Everything is good.

If you go with the fast cure 5200, make sure ya got "all your ducks in a row". This stuff doesn't give you any play time like the regular stuff.
How did you do the 5200 around the valve stem? I would imagine that you didn't permantly seal it in. Would you recommend using the 4200 over the 5200 like somebody previously suggested?
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:44 AM   #13729
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I wanna know how you're going to do this mod. I didn't think your bike sat still long enough for the quick setting stuff to cure.
Usually it doesn't! But a project at work is going to hell right now and I had to work last weekend and this coming weekend isn't looking promising for time off. My poor thread is all the way on page two of day trippin cause I haven't even had the time to finish the rr from two weeks ago and then I still have to do my write up from my flat tire ride. Stupid work getting in the way of fun time.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:09 AM   #13730
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So yesterday I brought my Tiger in to the dealer's service department for the first time (I do all my own service). Didn't have a choice in this case because it needed the various recalls/TSBs done -- gear shift return spring, center stand, updated EFI map, etc.

I've been putting this off because the bike has been running perfectly and I didn't want anyone messing with it. But I'm heading up to Labrador next month so wanted to get everything in order beforehand.

Picked the bike up yesterday evening, rode it home, parked it, and watched a puddle of oil start to form underneath it. The clutch cover is leaking (it had to be removed to replace the gear shift return spring).

I'm fucking pissed, and my complete lack of faith in dealership mechanics has been strengthened. Does nobody check their fucking work anymore? This is not rocket science, for fuck's sake. They've taken a perfectly-functioning, completely reliable bike and introduced a major problem that didn't exist before. This makes me want to start punching babies... theirs, preferably.

I'm heading over there shortly to make them fix it. Meanwhile, end of rant.

--mark
Sorry to hear Mark. Makes you wonder if they even tested/rode it to check their work. Should have leaked for them if they had. Same experience for me last year with work on my heated grips they installed. The tech (young kid) thought he had the short fixed but never even double checked his work. I showed up to pick up the bike, pushed the button and blew the fuse. I then proceeded to blow my fuse on the service manager. I just don't get it.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #13731
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How did you do the 5200 around the valve stem? I would imagine that you didn't permantly seal it in. Would you recommend using the 4200 over the 5200 like somebody previously suggested?
I installed the valve stem first and snugged it down. I then put one of my little stick-on seals over the valve stem to protect it from any sealant finding its way in the opening. I brought the sealant right up to the valve stem and equal in height (1/8").

Using the 4200 over the 5200? Might want to Google a spec sheet to check for compatibility.

Now that I've seen how "beastly" this 3M 5200 stuff is, I might try to find other projects like resoling my riding boots....
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:22 AM   #13732
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So yesterday I brought my Tiger in to the dealer's service department for the first time (I do all my own service). Didn't have a choice in this case because it needed the various recalls/TSBs done -- gear shift return spring, center stand, updated EFI map, etc.

I've been putting this off because the bike has been running perfectly and I didn't want anyone messing with it. But I'm heading up to Labrador next month so wanted to get everything in order beforehand.

Picked the bike up yesterday evening, rode it home, parked it, and watched a puddle of oil start to form underneath it. The clutch cover is leaking (it had to be removed to replace the gear shift return spring).

I'm fucking pissed, and my complete lack of faith in dealership mechanics has been strengthened. Does nobody check their fucking work anymore? This is not rocket science, for fuck's sake. They've taken a perfectly-functioning, completely reliable bike and introduced a major problem that didn't exist before. This makes me want to start punching babies... theirs, preferably.

I'm heading over there shortly to make them fix it. Meanwhile, end of rant.

--mark
Dealerships sure don't inspire faith....do they?

Went into my dealer today to check on (again) my centerstand that has been on order for over 1 month (musta run out of welding rods in China). He tells me (with a straight face) "It'll be in today, I'll give you a call". We'll see.....
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:35 AM   #13733
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So yesterday I brought my Tiger in to the dealer's service department for the first time (I do all my own service). Didn't have a choice in this case because it needed the various recalls/TSBs done -- gear shift return spring, center stand, updated EFI map, etc.

I've been putting this off because the bike has been running perfectly and I didn't want anyone messing with it. But I'm heading up to Labrador next month so wanted to get everything in order beforehand.

Picked the bike up yesterday evening, rode it home, parked it, and watched a puddle of oil start to form underneath it. The clutch cover is leaking (it had to be removed to replace the gear shift return spring).

I'm fucking pissed, and my complete lack of faith in dealership mechanics has been strengthened. Does nobody check their fucking work anymore? This is not rocket science, for fuck's sake. They've taken a perfectly-functioning, completely reliable bike and introduced a major problem that didn't exist before. This makes me want to start punching babies... theirs, preferably.

I'm heading over there shortly to make them fix it. Meanwhile, end of rant.

--mark
My clutch cover had signs of leaking as well after my return spring tsb. I was able to just wipe the oil off and there has been no leaking. I avoid the dealer touching my bike as much as possible but for the tsb not much choice.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:56 AM   #13734
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Sorry to hear Mark. Makes you wonder if they even tested/rode it to check their work. Should have leaked for them if they had. Same experience for me last year with work on my heated grips they installed. The tech (young kid) thought he had the short fixed but never even double checked his work. I showed up to pick up the bike, pushed the button and blew the fuse. I then proceeded to blow my fuse on the service manager. I just don't get it.
Amen. A local tire place sheared 3 (THREE, 2 on the same goddam wheel) wheel studs - never said a word, I just found it when I went to check them (BTDT) after I picked it up. How the fuck can ANYONE, let alone a so-called mechanic, let a car leave the shop like that. Shit happens, I know that (although if they just used a torque wrench instead of an air gun then it prob WOULDN'T happen) but why then not take 10 mins to fix it. Took it back, they never so much as apologized, just said they'd take care of it.

Sorry to hear about your issue Mark. Good luck...
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:26 AM   #13735
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Just back from a 2-up trip to Montreal. Took the scenic way there and back so about 800 miles or so in 2 days riding in glorious VT mainly. Bike was fantastic as ever. Couple times I thought I could do with a tad more power but that was rare. Bike is a little high, for me at least, for 2-up slow speed maneuvering - nearly dropped it by the hotel while turning left but definitely manageable. Cranked the pre-load up and the bike was fine and a lot of fun in the twisties.

Overall, 2 thumbs way up

On another note, stock rear is just about toast but I am still pretty impressed with it (on the street and in the dirt in the dry) and it's lasted about 7,500 miles.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:39 AM   #13736
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Markbvt, that totally sucks. That's exactly why a bought my Tiger 180miles away. It sucks sometimes, but the owner & mechanics are top notch. Plus, I get to watch & take pics.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:34 PM   #13737
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I'm fucking pissed, and my complete lack of faith in dealership mechanics has been strengthened. Does nobody check their fucking work anymore? This is not rocket science, for fuck's sake. They've taken a perfectly-functioning, completely reliable bike and introduced a major problem that didn't exist before. This makes me want to start punching babies... theirs, preferably.

I'm heading over there shortly to make them fix it. Meanwhile, end of rant.
Okay, update: Got the bike over to the dealership, the mechanic looked at it in surprise and pulled it into the service bay. Clutch cover comes off, and the mechanic brings over the gasket -- which has a tear in it (thin area where there's a bolt hole in the middle tore on either side of the bolt hole). He goes and gets the dealership owner, and together they examine it. Seems the gasket came from Triumph with a small crease in it that weakened it, and it's just a thin paper gasket to begin with.

Unfortunately they didn't have another one in stock, but they got me back on the road by patching the torn gasket, and they'll give me a call when the new one comes in and they'll do a quick swap. Thankfully removing the clutch cover only takes a few minutes, so I can swing by at lunch and they can take care of it on the spot.

It's a pain in the ass, but they're making it right, and both the owner and the mechanic both apologized to me (independently) for not noticing the oil leak. And their patch job on the existing gasket seems to be good -- it didn't leak any oil on the way back to work. Will be interesting to see if that holds true all the way home and overnight.

So, all good for now. Still sucks that it happened and they didn't notice it, but they didn't try to weasel out of their mistake, and I respect them for that.

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Old 07-24-2012, 12:40 PM   #13738
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Okay, update: Got the bike over to the dealership, the mechanic looked at it in surprise and pulled it into the service bay. Clutch cover comes off, and the mechanic brings over the gasket -- which has a tear in it (thin area where there's a bolt hole in the middle tore on either side of the bolt hole). He goes and gets the dealership owner, and together they examine it. Seems the gasket came from Triumph with a small crease in it that weakened it, and it's just a thin paper gasket to begin with.

Unfortunately they didn't have another one in stock, but they got me back on the road by patching the torn gasket, and they'll give me a call when the new one comes in and they'll do a quick swap. Thankfully removing the clutch cover only takes a few minutes, so I can swing by at lunch and they can take care of it on the spot.

It's a pain in the ass, but they're making it right, and both the owner and the mechanic both apologized to me (independently) for not noticing the oil leak. And their patch job on the existing gasket seems to be good -- it didn't leak any oil on the way back to work. Will be interesting to see if that holds true all the way home and overnight.

So, all good for now. Still sucks that it happened and they didn't notice it, but they didn't try to weasel out of their mistake, and I respect them for that.

--mark


Shit happens, it's how folks/businesses respond that says a lot about them. Did they have to change the oil also when taking the cover off or ??
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:57 PM   #13739
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Okay, update: Got the bike over to the dealership, the mechanic looked at it in surprise and pulled it into the service bay. Clutch cover comes off, and the mechanic brings over the gasket -- which has a tear in it (thin area where there's a bolt hole in the middle tore on either side of the bolt hole). He goes and gets the dealership owner, and together they examine it. Seems the gasket came from Triumph with a small crease in it that weakened it, and it's just a thin paper gasket to begin with.

Unfortunately they didn't have another one in stock, but they got me back on the road by patching the torn gasket, and they'll give me a call when the new one comes in and they'll do a quick swap. Thankfully removing the clutch cover only takes a few minutes, so I can swing by at lunch and they can take care of it on the spot.

It's a pain in the ass, but they're making it right, and both the owner and the mechanic both apologized to me (independently) for not noticing the oil leak. And their patch job on the existing gasket seems to be good -- it didn't leak any oil on the way back to work. Will be interesting to see if that holds true all the way home and overnight.

So, all good for now. Still sucks that it happened and they didn't notice it, but they didn't try to weasel out of their mistake, and I respect them for that.

--mark
(grumpy) Well, that's contemporary mechanics for you. Some of properly experienced grease monkeys still remember how to make paper gasket and keep few sheets of different thickness gasket paper in workshop.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:10 PM   #13740
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A thin wipe of blue hylomar on that gasket would have prevented it. Experienced mechanics know these tricks, but young factory-trained do not. Read "Shopcraft as Soulcraft" sometime for a great discussion of the lost art of working with one's hands. I grew up tinkering on cars and trucks and engines of all sorts around our house, and my father was one of those guys from the WWII generation that could do anything. He built a doodlebug out of an old cement truck, complete with two transmissions in line, a salvaged truck rear end run off a power take off for a winch, and a homemade snowplow cut with a torch out of an old hot water boiler. That thing could pull boulders as large as itself, and if it got stuck in the mud out of reach of the winch cable, you just put both transmissions in reverse, pulled the throttle out a bit and left it. The wheels would just barely be turning in double reverse, and it would work itself out after an hour or so.
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