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Old 07-27-2012, 08:05 PM   #13741
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I did a thread search without success.

So what rear tube do you prefer for our XC?

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One that holds air

I still have both stock tubes in mine after 13,000+ miles they are still truckin along. Michelin makes a good tube.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:12 AM   #13742
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I'm not a fan of heavy duty tubes. They are harder to install, heavier to carry as spares, and I never fun a low enough tire pressure to worry about a pinch flat. Also, it won't protect against a puncture, which is your most common flat. I agree with fb, any one that holds air.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:42 AM   #13743
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anyone used a Metzler Sahara 3 on the front of their 800xc? I just found 90/90 - 21 in my store room I forgot I had and was thinking it should work well no?
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:18 AM   #13744
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I'm not a fan of heavy duty tubes. They are harder to install ...
I always put the tube in the tire before I put the tire on the rim. You won't need to stuff the tube in later and risk having it twisted. And heavy duty tubes are no more difficult -- maybe slightly easier.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:21 AM   #13745
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I always put the tube in the tire before I put the tire on the rim. You won't need to stuff the tube in later and risk having it twisted. And heavy duty tubes are no more difficult -- maybe slightly easier.
unless you have to change the tube and not the tire. heavy duty tubes are harder to twist anyway.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:22 AM   #13746
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I always put the tube in the tire before I put the tire on the rim. You won't need to stuff the tube in later and risk having it twisted. And heavy duty tubes are no more difficult -- maybe slightly easier.
+1

Little bit of air to help them keep their shape and they go in just fine. I do agree they are much heavier and bulkier to carry as spares though so I generally only carry regular tubes as spares.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:23 AM   #13747
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I always put the tube in the tire before I put the tire on the rim. You won't need to stuff the tube in later and risk having it twisted. And heavy duty tubes are no more difficult -- maybe slightly easier.
1) Install one bead of the tire on the wheel

2) Stuff tube inside tire, and valve stem through hole in rim

3) Inflate tube to get out all of the wrinkles

4) remove valve core to deflate tube

5) Install 2nd bead of tire

I come from Harley land, where we dealt with tons of tubes. I know there are other ways to do it, but when we used that method we didn't wind up with pinched tubes.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:23 AM   #13748
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I'm not a fan of heavy duty tubes. They are harder to install, heavier to carry as spares, and I never fun a low enough tire pressure to worry about a pinch flat. Also, it won't protect against a puncture, which is your most common flat. I agree with fb, any one that holds air.
Neither am I but that's the only one they had in stock so I just bought it. I usually just run regular tubes as well.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:39 AM   #13749
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Who has ran out of gas & did it hurt anything? Where you able to tilt the bike & find more usable fuel?
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:49 AM   #13750
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Hi all. My first post here

I'm a super sport rider who got the bug of dual sports and adventure riding after going for a ride with friends who ride BMW and KTM's.

I test roade the F800GS and Tiger XC and plan on buying the Tiger XC in a couple of weeks.

I wanted to know if the 2013 models have come out and if not, when are they coming out. I'm in California if that makes any difference.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:25 PM   #13751
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Who has ran out of gas & did it hurt anything? Where you able to tilt the bike & find more usable fuel?
yes, no it won't hurt anything. why would it? didn't try to find more.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:06 PM   #13752
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Hi all. My first post here

I'm a super sport rider who got the bug of dual sports and adventure riding after going for a ride with friends who ride BMW and KTM's.

I test roade the F800GS and Tiger XC and plan on buying the Tiger XC in a couple of weeks.

I wanted to know if the 2013 models have come out and if not, when are they coming out. I'm in California if that makes any difference.
I have heard no changes for upcoming 2013 models. Might be worth finding a closeout on 2012s when the time is right. Welcome to the club!

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Old 07-28-2012, 01:30 PM   #13753
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yes, no it won't hurt anything. why would it? didn't try to find more.
It says in the book "don't run out". I can imagine air entering the fuel rails not being a good thing. Just curious about any side effects or extra gas not usable.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:43 PM   #13754
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It says in the book "don't run out". I can imagine air entering the fuel rails not being a good thing. Just curious about any side effects or extra gas not usable.
It's normally only a problem with diesels if you run out. If you run low the fuel pump might not be cooled anymore, therefore running hot. I'm not certain whether that's the same concept as with the Beemers, but there it's not recommended running super low all the time just for this.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:58 PM   #13755
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It says in the book "don't run out". I can imagine air entering the fuel rails not being a good thing. Just curious about any side effects or extra gas not usable.
When in doubt go to the British Triumph Forums. Those guys get to experience our problems a year in advance....



It seems that the Tiger 800's and XC's will not start if the fuel is not registering. Fuel not registering can be caused by being out of fuel, of course, and by a weak or dead battery. It appears that the ECU must read the fuel gauge in order for the bike to start.



If the fuel gauge reads zero, it won't start. If you have disconnected the battery or it has lost some voltage your ECU will shut down, when you switch on you need to tell the ECU that there is fuel available. The ECU can only check the fuel if the fuel is moving about (don't ask why). That's why you have to sit on the bike and preferably shake it from side to side with the ignition switched on until the fuel gauge starts to move.

Had the same issue myself after not using the bike during the snow and forgetting to plug the Optimate (Battery Tender) in. The battery does not need to get completely flat for this to happen, just drop in voltage a little.


One person reported they had to wheel the bike around in a circle to get the fuel to show on the gauge. Once the fuel gauge starts registering, the bike will start.
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