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Old 08-10-2012, 10:47 AM   #13936
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SW Motech luggage setup is awesome. I believe it saved the bike in this 40 MPH crash. It turned into a low side but the film shows the rear tire over my head and out to the side at one point and the front tire still on the ground. Still picked the bike up and rode away after zip tying the Pelican case back on. (Pelican cases are made from the same indestructible material the black boxes are that they put on 747's.) Would you wheelie through that puddle? Counting the soft bottom it's almost two feet deep after I emptied most of it.









And this one. The case came off at 70MPH on pavement for some still unknown reason. Probably a lock failure. It skidded down the road for a few hundred yards before flipping end over end into and embankment. All witnessed by my buddy riding behind me and the UFO case.

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Old 08-10-2012, 10:59 AM   #13937
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For reference we rode mostly stuff like this.









With some of this in between and on the way to Brewery's

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Old 08-10-2012, 11:04 AM   #13938
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So I've just returned from an extended 3000 mi trip. The large percentage of it was spent off road. Aside from the well known idle issues, mine doesn't then it does, then it idles at 2000 rpm, the biggest complaint I have is the skid plate and more specifically how it is mounted. The bracket at the front where two of the three mounting screws attach can not take the kind of riding I did. I rode with other larger adventure bikes, KTM 990's and 50's, BMW 800's, 1200's and 1150's and a Strom or two. They all had their problems. Mine was this part i speak of. It bent then the skid plate felt loose and rattled. Spent an afternoon in town with a vise and a hammer reshaping it only to have it bend again. One crash pushed in so far as to dent the oil filter and begin to etch the header pipe. I've looked online since my return and have not found a manufacturer who has another way to mount a skid plate. If this is you, please PM me. The stock setup is junk.

Rob, don't forget, the 2011 skid plate attaches differently than the 2012 skid plate. The redesign of how the 2012 is mounted should eliminate the rattle issues.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:17 AM   #13939
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Rob, don't forget, the 2011 skid plate attaches differently than the 2012 skid plate. The redesign of how its mounted should eliminate the rattle issues.
Not sure about that. It still attaches to the same mounting bracket up front. That is the issue. That bracket allowed the plate to move backward, and contact the oil filter with enough force to crease it. My issue is with the bracket really not the skid plate although better coverage of the oil filter is a must for anyone going off road.

It was great riding with you buddy. Thanks for the help in reshaping the bracket.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:47 AM   #13940
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I guess the answer to that question largely depends on the feedback i get here - the eastern states for sure seem doable. The western states seem like they might not be so doable on a roadie based on it's suspension travel. I understand that those states are harder going. I believe people have done them on big bikes before but probably ones that are more off-road capable (1200gs, KTMs etc. - even XCs I suppose by now).

I'm wondering if it might be asking too much of the roadie.

It's looking like this coming year I might finally get my chance at a long adv ride (time and money are lining up - it's a long time dream of mine). So I am weighing my options - trans lab vs TAT vs Alaska.

My offroad experience is minimal - but on road plentiful, and I am pretty confident I can learn on the job. Anybody want to steer me towards one ride or the other?

I own an 800 Roadie and am trying to figure out which will be the best option without buying a different bike. In the rest of my life the roadie is ideally suited to my needs.

If needs be I will buy a small dualsport to do the trip but I would prefer to do it on my tiger - I guess I am just appealing to my more experienced inmates for advice on this.

Skidplate gets added to the list - didn't even think about that one.

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Are you riding the whole thing or just certain states?
You need to prepare for a lot of gravel. That stuff will beat the hell out of your bike. Especially if you go fast. At minimum you need a skid plate, front fender extender, & some kind of mud flap to protect the rear shock. Tires depend on your skill in gravel or sand/mud. If you have no experience, then you need knobbies for sure. If you've been riding dirt for years, then a 50/50 tire is OK.
No matter what bike your riding, if it's soaking wet then your going to hate east AR. The rice fields push sediment all over the road & it's slick as owl shit. Bring a mud shovel in case your front tire locks up. If you find yourself in over your head, then turn around. Sometimes the bad areas can last for miles.

This is a full knobbie on my DRZ in east AR

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Old 08-10-2012, 11:59 AM   #13941
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So I've just returned from an extended 3000 mi trip. The large percentage of it was spent off road. Aside from the well known idle issues, mine doesn't then it does, then it idles at 2000 rpm, the biggest complaint I have is the skid plate and more specifically how it is mounted. The bracket at the front where two of the three mounting screws attach can not take the kind of riding I did. I rode with other larger adventure bikes, KTM 990's and 50's, BMW 800's, 1200's and 1150's and a Strom or two. They all had their problems. Mine was this part i speak of. It bent then the skid plate felt loose and rattled. Spent an afternoon in town with a vise and a hammer reshaping it only to have it bend again. One crash pushed in so far as to dent the oil filter and begin to etch the header pipe. I've looked online since my return and have not found a manufacturer who has another way to mount a skid plate. If this is you, please PM me. The stock setup is junk.
I assume your speaking of the Triumph skid plate? It sounds to me like you slammed your skid plate into something. Most likely a rock... to me it seems like your skid plate did it's job. Mine is all bashed up too. They are not bullet proof. Check out the Alt Rider plate. I will replace mine with Alt Rider when the time comes. You definitely have to be aware of what line you pick when your riding a heavy bike.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:48 PM   #13942
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So I am weighing my options - trans lab vs TAT vs Alaska.

My offroad experience is minimal - but on road plentiful, and I am pretty confident I can learn on the job. Anybody want to steer me towards one ride or the other?

I own an 800 Roadie and am trying to figure out which will be the best option without buying a different bike. In the rest of my life the roadie is ideally suited to my needs.

If needs be I will buy a small dualsport to do the trip but I would prefer to do it on my tiger - I guess I am just appealing to my more experienced inmates for advice on this.

Skidplate gets added to the list - didn't even think about that one.
IMO the roadie is a great machine for an Alaska trip - it's mostly hiway with some gravel sections. I can't speak for the other two destinations, nor have I actually ridden to Alaska. If other road bikes can make it you can too. And there's lots to see on the way.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:02 PM   #13943
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I assume your speaking of the Triumph skid plate? It sounds to me like you slammed your skid plate into something. Most likely a rock... to me it seems like your skid plate did it's job. Mine is all bashed up too. They are not bullet proof. Check out the Alt Rider plate. I will replace mine with Alt Rider when the time comes. You definitely have to be aware of what line you pick when your riding a heavy bike.
Oh I hit rocks. The plate looks great. It's the mounting bracket that bends or fails. Alt Rider mounts the same way so not a solution. Thanks for offing a possible solution tho.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:07 PM   #13944
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Oh I hit rocks. The plate looks great. It's the mounting bracket that bends or fails. Alt Rider mounts the same way so not a solution. Thanks for offing a possible solution tho.
You need a rock crusher
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:11 PM   #13945
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I'm thinking I need a new adventure bike. Perhaps I can get one of these.

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Old 08-10-2012, 03:49 PM   #13946
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The problem I've had with mounting the skid plate (XC with SW Motech skid plate) is the four rubber bushings on the bottom. All four of mine de-glued within 1,000 miles. I reassembled them with JB Weld, and I think one of them has come apart again. It is a bit disconcerting to realize the skid plate is essentially glued onto this bike.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #13947
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Rob, don't forget, the 2011 skid plate attaches differently than the 2012 skid plate. The redesign of how the 2012 is mounted should eliminate the rattle issues.

First I've heard of this one. Anyone care to elaborate on the difference between 2011 and 2012 mounting differences for the Triumph accessory aluminum skid plate? Worthy of an upgrade, or is updating an early (Silver frame) 2011 possible? Ken
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #13948
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The problem I've had with mounting the skid plate (XC with SW Motech skid plate) is the four rubber bushings on the bottom. All four of mine de-glued within 1,000 miles. I reassembled them with JB Weld, and I think one of them has come apart again. It is a bit disconcerting to realize the skid plate is essentially glued onto this bike.
The Rubber on mine only makes contact from the spring tension in the skid plate while mounted. My guess is you have damaged the mounting bracket like I have and now there is no tension so it can rattle. If the Rubber mounts bounce off the bottom of the motor enough times I can see them coming loose. But mine is not rubber mounted. Isolated by the grommets touching when everything is straight and all points are making contact yes. Mine is mounted to the bracket in front by two screws and one underneath. Bad design. It was obvious mine was bent once I removed the skid plate. What was shocking was how much. I was fortunate enough to be traveling with a friend with a 2012 Tiger. We could compare the two and reshape mine to match his. Mine was tacoed. Would never had been able to bend it into the right shape with out his as a reference. Sorry did not take any pictures and I'm kicking myself for it now.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:25 PM   #13949
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First I've heard of this one. Anyone care to elaborate on the difference between 2011 and 2012 mounting differences for the Triumph accessory aluminum skid plate? Worthy of an upgrade, or is updating an early (Silver frame) 2011 possible? Ken
IMHO the difference is minor. They both have the same bracket in the front where the two bolts connect it to the bracket I'm talking about. Just look at yours and you will see. It's the weak link and it is very weak.
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I'll try to clear things up as best I can.

The 2011 skid plate bolts to the black steel bracket in the front of the bike just under the header and oil filter. (two bolts about 4" apart) and spring tension is required to keep the plate from moving around.

The 2012 plate does not bolt to the black steel bracket. It bolts to the under side of the oil sump. (4) nuts with rubber dampeners that hold the plate on. However the black steel bracket is still used, but only as a crumple mechanism. On the 2011 mounting design when the steel bracket collaspses the whole plate will shift back and into the header pipe.
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