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Old 09-13-2012, 10:11 PM   #14266
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Okay, very preliminary review of the Traxxion AK-20 cartridges in my Tiger Roadie.

Main impression: Holy Shit! Why didn't I do this earlier?
Thanks for the input. I've been thinking about suspension upgrades, but wasn't sure what to do. Thought about Sasquatch, but that may not be an option anymore. Now, where do I find $1200?
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:23 PM   #14267
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Thanks for the input. I've been thinking about suspension upgrades, but wasn't sure what to do. Thought about Sasquatch, but that may not be an option anymore. Now, where do I find $1200?
Don't get me wrong: I would have gone with a valving / re-spring work in the front for less than half the price if the following points were true:

1) I'd ride more than 80% a specific style, either touring or backroad fun, doesn't matter, just the overwhelming majority in one of the two.

2) If there was something that would be cheaper and adjustable.

The Traxxion system is

a) potentially re-usable, I can take it off the bike, send it to Traxxion and they re-work it for my next bike for a manageable fee;

b) fully adjustable for pre-load, rebound and compression;

c) well reviewed on the web.

I like the result and that's all that counts.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:28 AM   #14268
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So it's one or the other, not both? or do you tuck the pc-8 down below where the snorkel / unifiler would go?
The uni filter does not extend further back than the plastic bridge that the battery strap attaches to in photo. You can't have the snorkel still attached with a uni filter installed, so 1 bolt to remove it and space left for other things, ala EasternBeaver PC-8
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:33 AM   #14269
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Not true.
Not technically perhaps. But without moving more air, and consequently more fuel, you will not get any performance change. Some exhausts just let the ECU do the work. I guess that's based on either the difference in flow being within the ability of the ECU to adjust the air/fuel mix. Or maybe they expect the buyer to have a mechanic do the install?

The other part of the equation is what you do with the additional extra ponies... Riding nicely, gearing up / shorting seems to counterract the richer mix, so those 2HP or whatever might be giving back some of what was taken away...

fackit, I just wanna ride the damn things. I'll let the smart guys tell us all the science lessone.

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:03 AM   #14270
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Thanks for the input. I've been thinking about suspension upgrades, but wasn't sure what to do. Now, where do I find $1200?
If you watch Traxxion's site, during the off-season, they run promotions. They're not real active on Facebook and are fairly new to it, so I don't know if they'll post any promotions there.

In Dec '09, they ran a promo. I was billed as follows:

AK-20 cartridge kit - $999.95
Installation - $200.00
Service discount - subtract $200
Promotion discount - subtract $299.90
Shipping - $25.75
Total - $725.80

Penske 8983 shock - $775.00
Hyperco spring - $99.95
Shipping - $12.33
Total - $887.28

Part of that promotion was the purchase of a Penske shock. I was billed just as it's shown, with my shock coming later and being billed at full retail. However one looks at it, the combined discount was $499.90, with the purchase of the package.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:22 AM   #14271
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Brake Upgrade

After riding a couple of current sport bikes recently, the brake lever on my Roadie with ~8,000 miles felt wooden and lacking in responsiveness.

Replaced front and rear pads with EBC type HH; what a difference! Perhaps not quite as responsive as 4 or 6 piston calipers but a major improvement. $108, free shipping, Motorcycle Superstore.

Has anybody upgraded calipers / rotors? Some Suzuki WeeStrommers use GSXR calipers with good results, for example.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:28 AM   #14272
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Part of that promotion was the purchase of a Penske shock. I was billed just as it's shown, with my shock coming later and being billed at full retail. However one looks at it, the combined discount was $499.90, with the purchase of the package.
That's pretty good. I'll keep an eye on there site to check for promotions on rear shocks.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:55 AM   #14273
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After riding a couple of current sport bikes recently, the brake lever on my Roadie with ~8,000 miles felt wooden and lacking in responsiveness.

Replaced front and rear pads with EBC type HH; what a difference! Perhaps not quite as responsive as 4 or 6 piston calipers but a major improvement. $108, free shipping, Motorcycle Superstore.

Has anybody upgraded calipers / rotors? Some Suzuki WeeStrommers use GSXR calipers with good results, for example.
Replaced the rear rotor with an Armstrong wavy because the rear warped - pretty sure due to chain adjustment at dealers during service. The pads I changed as a matter of course to HH


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Old 09-14-2012, 10:47 AM   #14274
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Replaced front and rear pads with EBC type HH; what a difference! Perhaps not quite as responsive as 4 or 6 piston calipers but a major improvement.

Yeah, I put EBC HH pads on my XC, and I too found them a lot more responsive than the stock pads. They definitely grip nicely. Will be curious to see how they last.

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Old 09-14-2012, 11:05 AM   #14275
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After riding a couple of current sport bikes recently, the brake lever on my Roadie with ~8,000 miles felt wooden and lacking in responsiveness.

Replaced front and rear pads with EBC type HH; what a difference! Perhaps not quite as responsive as 4 or 6 piston calipers but a major improvement. $108, free shipping, Motorcycle Superstore.

Has anybody upgraded calipers / rotors? Some Suzuki WeeStrommers use GSXR calipers with good results, for example.
It's not worth adding any more outright braking power, to the bike, as the hardware is quite good. After pads, the next limiting factor will be the front tire and weight transfer onto it.

Going to an HH compound pad is the most cost effective improvement one can make, in terms of improved feel. Changing the calipers and master cylinder are going to be quite a bit more money than what you've spent on pads. But, the master cylinder is going to be your next step to better feel, at the lever.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:07 AM   #14276
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Replaced the rear rotor with an Armstrong wavy because the rear warped - pretty sure due to chain adjustment at dealers during service. The pads I changed as a matter of course to HH
Did they not have the wheel squared up?
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #14277
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Did they not have the wheel squared up?
No. I am anal about it now and made a jig. I get to less that 1mm out now. Also won't be darkening that dealer's door again.

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Old 09-14-2012, 12:31 PM   #14278
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Another new Tiger owner

Been doin' a little correspondence with a fellow inmate on Tiger setup...

Welcome THE DARTH PEACH to the owners group.


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Old 09-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #14279
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Welcome THE DARTH PEACH to the owners group.
Oh my, that will make Tigers hard to get in the US for a while ...
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #14280
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Been doin' a little correspondence with a fellow inmate on Tiger setup...

Welcome THE DARTH PEACH to the owners group.


Is that the lady that takes all those fancy pics? Baldy bought a roadie. I don't know if he still has it though.
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