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Old 09-23-2012, 06:11 PM   #14446
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They have a standard Patrol line without all that stuff.
I hadn't seen that before. Looks like it's fairly new, to the lineup. I like the "Camelbak" feature.
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:42 PM   #14447
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I hadn't seen that before. Looks like it's fairly new, to the lineup. I like the "Camelbak" feature.
It's actually been out about 3 years now.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:36 AM   #14448
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I thought the 'patrol' line was from FLY RACING. Which BTW is pretty good cheap gear. MSR has a couple of pieces that are decent as well.

Out here it's Klim country. Any given ride it's like a sea of klim klones.
I have to admit though, they do a pretty good job with their features and construction. Only their high-end stuff is out of sight price-wise. The rest is on the high end of reasonable.

I did not realize Icon was actually going to put all the sticker shit on their gear. I'd be more willing to try it out without all that hoopla.

Scott is another one to check out. Even alpinestar has something once in awhile.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:30 AM   #14449
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I hadn't seen that before. Looks like it's fairly new, to the lineup. I like the "Camelbak" feature.
Not sure if you can get Dririder there, but they have a Rallycross Pro 2 I think it's called... with a hydration bladder pocket built in too.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:45 AM   #14450
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It's actually been out about 3 years now.
Geez, I feel like I'm way out of the loop, as I left the industry ~7yrs ago.

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Not sure if you can get Dririder there, but they have a Rallycross Pro 2 I think it's called... with a hydration bladder pocket built in too.
I've been throwing my Camelbak bladder in a tankbag, as I didn't care for riding with a backpack. However, these jackets look like a nice compromise.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:58 AM   #14451
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Geez, I feel like I'm way out of the loop, as I left the industry ~7yrs ago.



I've been throwing my Camelbak bladder in a tankbag, as I didn't care for riding with a backpack. However, these jackets look like a nice compromise.
IMO using the bladder built into the jacket sucks. They pull the jacket back and it's anoying as all hell. just my 2c
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:52 PM   #14452
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Eh? Position of the Handlebar Risers

After almost two weeks of ownership now I've been bothered by two things about this bike: The aerodynamics around the screen and the ergonomics while standing.

The wind blast off the stock screen hits me in the arms, shoulders, and top of the helmet. Annoying. And Loud. Very loud. When I duck behind the screen or stand up to get out of the blast things quiet down considerably. Which brings up point number two...

While standing I've noticed that the footpegs seem like they're too far forward. The reach down to the bars is awkward, almost like reaching in your back pockets for the handlebars. (Oddly I remember the "pegs forward" comment from one of the magazine reviews as well.)

After installing my center stand the other night I got to thinking about the pegs forward issue, and was thinking that maybe it wasn't the pegs forward but the bars rearward that bothered me. I loosened the stock risers (damn, they're tall!) and rotated them around 180 degrees to the forward position.

Revelation! The tank is still damn wide between the knees, but the bar to peg relationship is much better now while standing.

How does this relate back to the windscreen? Well, I was thinking about cutting it short or removing it altogether. I imagine this will go with the bars forward mod like peanut butter and chocolate, each making more sense when the other is nearby. Think I'll have to go check out that short PowerBronze screen I saw awhile back so I can get my noggin out into the breeze and quiet things down. Either that or the MadStad (which is too ugly, so I'll probably do the former).

I usually hear about people moving the bars rearward or installing other risers. Have other people rotated the bars to the forward position and liked it? Is this actually the factory position and I just got an odd setup?

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Old 09-24-2012, 06:03 PM   #14453
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After almost two weeks of ownership now I've been bothered by two things about this bike: The aerodynamics around the screen and the ergonomics while standing.

The wind blast off the stock screen hits me in the arms, shoulders, and top of the helmet. Annoying. And Loud. Very loud. When I duck behind the screen or stand up to get out of the blast things quiet down considerably. Which brings up point number two...

While standing I've noticed that the footpegs seem like they're too far forward. The reach down to the bars is awkward, almost like reaching in your back pockets for the handlebars. (Oddly I remember the "pegs forward" comment from one of the magazine reviews as well.)

After installing my center stand the other night I got to thinking about the pegs forward issue, and was thinking that maybe it wasn't the pegs forward but the bars rearward that bothered me. I loosened the stock risers (damn, they're tall!) and rotated them around 180 degrees to the forward position.

Revelation! The tank is still damn wide between the knees, but the bar to peg relationship is much better now while standing.

How does this relate back to the windscreen? Well, I was thinking about cutting it short or removing it altogether. I imagine this will go with the bars forward mod like peanut butter and chocolate, each making more sense when the other is nearby. Think I'll have to go check out that short PowerBronze screen I saw awhile back so I can get my noggin out into the breeze and quiet things down. Either that or the MadStad (which is too ugly, so I'll probably do the former).

I usually hear about people moving the bars rearward or installing other risers. Have other people rotated the bars to the forward position and liked it? Is this actually the factory position and I just got an odd setup?

-Tom
I rode the Triumph tour screen and it was good. You may try to find a dealer that'll let you demo one. Also, there are adjustable windscreen mounts available. Putting one on my 1050 made a world of difference. However, I've always worn earplugs, too.

Going from my 1050 to the 800 definitely felt like the 800's pegs are forward. Not bad; just different. I didn't try to stand up, as I had my GF with me.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:54 PM   #14454
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After taking my trip and standing on the pegs on occasion I want wider pegs. Any options out there you folks have tried?
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:11 PM   #14455
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After almost two weeks of ownership now I've been bothered by two things about this bike: The aerodynamics around the screen and the ergonomics while standing.

The wind blast off the stock screen hits me in the arms, shoulders, and top of the helmet. Annoying. And Loud. Very loud. When I duck behind the screen or stand up to get out of the blast things quiet down considerably. Which brings up point number two...

While standing I've noticed that the footpegs seem like they're too far forward. The reach down to the bars is awkward, almost like reaching in your back pockets for the handlebars. (Oddly I remember the "pegs forward" comment from one of the magazine reviews as well.)

After installing my center stand the other night I got to thinking about the pegs forward issue, and was thinking that maybe it wasn't the pegs forward but the bars rearward that bothered me. I loosened the stock risers (damn, they're tall!) and rotated them around 180 degrees to the forward position.

Revelation! The tank is still damn wide between the knees, but the bar to peg relationship is much better now while standing.

How doesall day. this relate back to the windscreen? Well, I was thinking about cutting it short or removing it altogether. I imagine this will go with the bars forward mod like peanut butter and chocolate, each making more sense when the other is nearby. Think I'll have to go check out that short PowerBronze screen I saw awhile back so I can get my noggin out into the breeze and quiet things down. Either that or the MadStad (which is too ugly, so I'll probably do the former).

I usually hear about people moving the bars rearward or installing other risers. Have other people rotated the bars to the forward position and liked it? Is this actually the factory position and I just got an odd setup?

-Tom
It's catch 22 for some. Roll the bars forward for better ergonomics while standing and then the bars are too far away while sitting, at least for me. I am only 5'9. In order for me to be the most comfortable for touring I actually have 2" pivot risers tilted back towards me a bit. I do feel a bit too crowded while standing but it's give and take. I can always roll them forward if I am trailing it all day.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:26 PM   #14456
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How does this relate back to the windscreen? Well, I was thinking about cutting it short or removing it altogether.
Try removing it altogether. Takes only a few minutes and you will see instant results. And the Tiger 800 looks good without it.

Of course, I can't understand why anyone would want a windscreen in the first place. For me, they are nothing but trouble.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:05 PM   #14457
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I rotated my bars a bit forward as well.

I also put the seat in the lowest position. Originally, I had it in the tall position but it gave me too much wind on the helmet. Moving to the low position really helped.

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Old 09-24-2012, 10:44 PM   #14458
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I rotated the risers to the forward position, rolled the bars forward a bit, then installed 2" rox risers, rolled forward a bit. Felt great standing, but a bit wierd while sitting. Moved the seat to the tall position and am happy now. I am 5'10" with shortish arms and legs, but much prefer the seat in the taller position and the taller, more forward bars. Pegs still feel a long way forward when standing, but you get used to it. Plan on putting some fatter pegs on soon...may even cough up for the pivot pegs, but bit skint at the moment, as new bicycle is being built and sucking up the funds (started as a budget build, then found a great deal on a super sexy wheelset, which then deserved better componentry, which then needed....and on and on it goes!)!
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:21 AM   #14459
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Don't know if anybody has posted this video yet and I don't have time to look. But this is hands down the best moto promo I've ever watched. Words cannot describe how awesome this is. A half hour of amazing cinematography, killer hopped up Tigers, and two outstanding riders. Seriously, seriously watch this video.

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Old 09-25-2012, 06:11 AM   #14460
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I rotated the risers to the forward position, rolled the bars forward a bit, then installed 2" rox risers, rolled forward a bit. Felt great standing, but a bit wierd while sitting. Moved the seat to the tall position and am happy now. I am 5'10" with shortish arms and legs, but much prefer the seat in the taller position and the taller, more forward bars. Pegs still feel a long way forward when standing, but you get used to it. Plan on putting some fatter pegs on soon...may even cough up for the pivot pegs, but bit skint at the moment, as new bicycle is being built and sucking up the funds (started as a budget build, then found a great deal on a super sexy wheelset, which then deserved better componentry, which then needed....and on and on it goes!)!
Ditto on the Rox Risers...really transformed the feel of the bike, on and off-road. I'm 5-10 and now it's a comfortable stand and a more relaxed position when riding on the road. In the past, I was leaning forward and the weight on my hands and wrists was noticeable after a few hours. Still not as ergonomically dialed in as my RT, but what is?

Next thing is the windscreen...hmmmm!

Ouch, motorbikes AND bicycles...same here, but I found a Felt Z15 in as-new condition for $1200 (guy was giving up road riding after getting scared shitless by a driver)...so far have resisted the urge to change anything but the saddle...

Cheers!
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