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Old 10-15-2012, 01:06 PM   #14671
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I have 17,000 miles on my 2012 tiger 800 xc and it does not burn oil
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:07 PM   #14672
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12,000 mile valve check, TB sync, and newest map

Just thought I'd share some recent maintenance results:

In general, I do all my own maintenance, but about 6 weeks ago I took my 2011 800XC in to get the latest map since I was two behind and still on the original Arrow-ABS map. The new map might run a little crisper than the one I was on and I think I've picked up a couple mpg running it. Although I also think I now have to let the bike warm up for just a few seconds more on cold (less than 50F) mornings than I used to. Doesn't die or anything, just not as "happy". Not a big deal.

I had planned to do my own valve check but once I got the cam cover off, I discovered I really didn't have a set of feeler guages that would get down in there and the exhaust spec is pretty small. Seems like it falls between sizes in most feeler guage sets. What feeler guages are you guys using to check your valves?

I went ahead and put new plugs in since I had them. The old plugs looked good (very clean) but I could visually see some minor wear on the electrodes so glad I replaced them.

Went ahead and had the local dealer do the valve check and the TB sync. They found all the valves just barely tight. That surprised me. I've read of some guys finding a few tight at the first check, but haven't noticed anyone else finding them "all" tight. They set them at the loose side of the spec. I didn't hear if they actually had to adjust the sync on the throttle bodies or not. $220 for the valve adjustment and TB sync. Cheaper than I thought it would be. Of course, I had to take off the skidplate when I got home and clean up oil that must have ran down the front of the motor (I think they pulled the cam cover with the bike on the sidestand for some reason). It has just the tiniest bit more valve noise than before which would be expected. Runs as good or better than it ever has.

They want me to bring it in to do the shifter return spring recall that affects my VIN... might drag my feet a bit on getting that done. Haven't heard anything about that being a high priority to get done.

Keep posting up your results as you do your valve checks... interested in what others are finding.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:20 PM   #14673
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Just thought I'd share some recent maintenance results:
I had planned to do my own valve check but once I got the cam cover off, I discovered I really didn't have a set of feeler guages that would get down in there and the exhaust spec is pretty small.
I don't know what the specs are off hand, but I had to order a decent set of feeler gauges a while back as most stuff locally was way too big. I think my smallest one is .05mm

Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horex-German...70648484668%26
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:27 PM   #14674
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I don't know what the specs are off hand, but I had to order a decent set of feeler gauges a while back as most stuff locally was way too big. I think my smallest one is .05mm

Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horex-German...70648484668%26
Were you able to do yours with straight blade guages? Seems like it would have almost taken a guage with a 45-90 degree bend to get down to the valve tappet. Like with the set you sent, it goes from .30mm to .35mm to .40mm... off the top of my head, I was thinking the exhaust spec was like .325mm to .375mm. I'm probably being too cautious with the whole thing.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:40 PM   #14675
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Were you able to do yours with straight blade guages? Seems like it would have almost taken a guage with a 45-90 degree bend to get down to the valve tappet. Like with the set you sent, it goes from .30mm to .35mm to .40mm... off the top of my head, I was thinking the exhaust spec was like .325mm to .375mm. I'm probably being too cautious with the whole thing.
I actually haven't checked the Tiger yet. I was just speaking from other bikes. My CRF is pretty tight, but I'm able to get it in there. I think I read from others that a 45 or 90 degree bend in the gauge would help out though.

If the specs do get into the thousandths and my gauges didn't, I'd just measure to the nearest hundredth on the looser side of the spec. Besides, most shims are in .05mm increments aren't they?

Just read this on: http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php?topic=3072.0

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Checked valve lash last week. 12,100 miles on Odo.

Intake were perfect, exhaust were right at the bottom of the range. I did not have the right shims so buttoned it back up and will bring to mid-range next time I get a chance.

BTW, Shims are of the 7.48 diameter variety.

Job was not difficult, just follow the manual. The only quirky part is that once the cam shafts are in, and before tightening up the camshaft ladder (hold down mont) you really want to put tension on the cam-chain. The book mentions putting tension on it, just not during the early part of the buttoning up phase. If you don't put tension on it, the chain "can" sorta bunch up between the cam gears at top requiring you to pull the camshaft ladder again. Other than that, the manual is excellent. Oh, and you really want narrower feeler gauges as the exhaust shims are tough to get to and the thick feeler gauges (.325 to .375 mm) don't bend very well if they are of the 1/2 wide variety. Even bent they are a pain to get a good reading. I picked up some 1/4 inch wide ones and they work great.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM   #14676
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They want me to bring it in to do the shifter return spring recall that affects my VIN... might drag my feet a bit on getting that done. Haven't heard anything about that being a high priority to get done.
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You will be kicking yourself if that spring breaks. Why risk ruining a ride? Just let them change it out. They will NOT dump the oil or anything else that should discourage you from getting the new spring. It would suck to try & ride home with the shifter stuck.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:46 PM   #14677
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You will be kicking yourself if that spring breaks. Why risk ruining a ride? Just let them change it out. They will NOT dump the oil or anything else that should discourage you from getting the new spring. It would suck to try & ride home with the shifter stuck.
Good point. Although, in general, when letting a shop work on my stuff, a little dumped oil is the least of my worries.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:53 PM   #14678
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Good point. Although, in general, when letting a shop work on my stuff, a little dumped oil is the least of my worries.
haha, Amen. I'm the same way. I'm actually waiting for a call back from my local shop to get this done as well. I wasn't sure if they had to dump oil or not, but they also confirmed they didn't.
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:25 PM   #14679
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New ECU maps

I see that as of last week, there are some new ECU maps on TuneECU.com.

I'm currently running 20635 on my XC ABS (standard silencer) and am wondering if anyone knows what the difference is in the new 20653 tune.

If you have it, have you loaded it on your Tiger yet?
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:03 AM   #14680
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I should have added that I am due to go on a trip to Maine in a week or so that will involve some highway (to get there) and then a fair bit of dirt roads etc. and I'm sure some mud along the way. I put another Battlewing on the rear since I needed a new tire and I was going on a trip to Montreal, 2-up with no chance of dirt.
On the recommendation of an inmate here, I have ordered a VRM163 so I'll give that a shot with the Mefo Explorer on the front. I was all set to get a Mefo for the rear until I realized they don't do a 17"
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:49 PM   #14681
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I see that as of last week, there are some new ECU maps on TuneECU.com.

I'm currently running 20635 on my XC ABS (standard silencer) and am wondering if anyone knows what the difference is in the new 20653 tune.

If you have it, have you loaded it on your Tiger yet?
I've loaded the non abs on mine - 20654. In comparison I could see no difference with the previous tune - 20636. However that doesn't mean much as most of the tune is locked down so that we the users can not see it.
Only difference I noticed so far is the fuel gauge registering full within 300m of filling up.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:44 PM   #14682
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On the recommendation of an inmate here, I have ordered a VRM163 so I'll give that a shot with the Mefo Explorer on the front. I was all set to get a Mefo for the rear until I realized they don't do a 17"
What you mean they do not do 17"???? I ran rear 17" Mefo Explorer on my DR800 for about 2000 km.

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Old 10-16-2012, 03:09 PM   #14683
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What you mean they do not do 17"???? I ran rear 17" Mefo Explorer on my DR800 for about 2000 km.

Here it is

My bad, I wasn't clear. They don't do a Super Explorer in 17" and the biggest Explorer rear is (IIRC) 130 ?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:10 PM   #14684
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Ah! I see.

I did not like those tyres to be honest. They were OK for very dry and no sand and dry tarmac...but in wet they were horrible. This is why I sold them...
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:48 AM   #14685
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Hey everyone, looking for guys to go on sunday rides with in the bay area. Anyone out there around here?!
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