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Old 08-11-2010, 10:08 AM   #76
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Knurl those pegs, man! How are they attached? A bolt through the outside threaded into the dogbone, or the other way around?

Why not round off the lever? I whipped up an idea;
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:27 AM   #77
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Knurl those pegs, man! How are they attached? A bolt through the outside threaded into the dogbone, or the other way around?

Why not round off the lever? I whipped up an idea;
thanks guys. i'm trying not to fuck it up totally. the anti-cafe crowd will slap me with a huge "told you so" and i hate being wrong. while i'm on about hating... i hate knurling! it will keep my boots from slipping off in the wet, but it gets plugged with nasty stuff. you're right. it should be knurled...ok ok... i'll make a knurled one to see how it looks.

the peg is held on with a bolt from the outside, and nut inside the frame like stock. the bolt pinches the peg onto the bearing then onto a spacer in the dogbone so the bearing can turn. the lever arm is bolted through from the back.

that does look nice with the round edges! once this is bead blasted and annodized (black probably) it'll look pretty sharp. i'm a fan of hard edges. very rarely do i chamfer anything.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:34 AM   #78
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plant seed...

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aw c'mon, it's not like he made the peg concentrically adjustable or anything

...and Loaded, pick your nuts up off the garage floor, there's a good chap.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:38 AM   #79
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aw c'mon, it's not like he made the peg concentrically adjustable or anything

...and Loaded, pick your nuts up off the garage floor, there's a good chap.
anty! how the hell are you mate?

feck... me nuts are on the floor again! ... we know this is impossible because the mrs keeps them in a jar on a shelf i can't reach.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:47 AM   #80
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Paint it semi-gloss black and the purists might give you a pass.

Right now, I think they think they're too shiny.

(I like 'em, though--but then, I always change and tweak the
bits on my bikes).
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:50 AM   #81
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Paint it semi-gloss black and the purists might give you a pass.

Right now, I think they think they're too shiny.

(I like 'em, though--but then, I always change and tweak the
bits on my bikes).
i'm going to bead blast them, then annodize black or silver. that produces a nice matte finish that is durable.
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Old 08-11-2010, 03:00 PM   #82
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didn't have time this morning to redo the arm. damn customers kept getting in the way! just ran a couple now and bead blasted them a little to knock some of the shine off. the frame is going to be silver... not sure what colour i will annodize all the little bits i make. maybe black which will turn out matte over the bead blasted finish, or clear which will look like matte silver.

here's the setup with the link moved back and a little bead blast.

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Old 08-11-2010, 11:55 PM   #83
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You know there might just be a market for rearsets for tonti frames...

I know I'm going to be looking for some. Especially if they
Make shifting a more how should I say... Precise action.

And also if they change that whacked out set up the brakes have....
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:10 AM   #84
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:41 AM   #85
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Great thread Loaded. I wish I had your talent for creating things. Looks just great.

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Old 08-12-2010, 09:39 PM   #86
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So..."avec" or "sans" lower frame rails?



With them is simpler, factory original, cheaper, you get a side-stand, etc, etc, etc

Without them you can pull everything in tighter but you will spend time & $$$ doing so. What else is new?

It does make the exhaust easier (if you are racing) One of the challenges will be getting the primaries short enough on a racing Goose, but then they spin 'em close to 10K. A 2-1-2 gives the best power spread, according to a well placed source, but then again, build what you want. If what you want is 160 BHP you own the wrong bike, mate



If you do go the sans frame-rail route, here are some pics from the web of a good example. The first ones show the additional five tubes added to triangulate (mostly) the revised front down tubes to work with a late model timing cover





The second shows some of the work that makes or breaks these conversions: Tying the gearbox/engine back into the remaining top tubes is critical. You can see here the machined plate from the front of the transmission to the top tubes



Next one shows the vertical plate and also the horizontal one that ties the top of the gearbox into the frame at three places (2X rear down-tubes and 1X cross-tube)



Detail shot showing the Vert & Horz plates tying the gearbox/motor to the frame



OK...so I lied. You can have a side-stand. Sue me



PS - Whether you keep or lose the lower rails, there are big handling improvements from tying the motor into the upper frame.

PPS - I wish I knew the origin of these pics (they ain't mine)...I would like to give the builder credit for them. Anyone know?
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:34 AM   #87
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jinxy, i love you like a brother, mate. you are a cunt. when my mothers other son comes up with ideas like this he usually gets a sound thrashing. suppose blaming it all on you is a little nasty. in all fairness i had been looking at some photos of the very bike you posted over on wild goose chase. he's a member there. if you're looking for him his screen name is geodoc.

the work itself isn't too bad really. where i go all scottsman is the rear tubes. i haven't got a die for my tubing bender that small and i don't feel like buying one (today) as they are quite dear. once i get down to a bare frame i bet it'll be a case of "it's a days worth of work for a months worth of coolness" situation.


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Old 08-13-2010, 11:54 AM   #88
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jinxy, i love you like a brother, mate. you are a cunt. when my mothers other son comes up with ideas like this he usually gets a sound thrashing....


Well, as long as I could help, mate, that's thanks enough. You know that after minding my own business, nothing gives me as much pleasure as helping wayward speed fiends spend their own money
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:57 PM   #89
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That's a sweet mod, and worth every minute of effort

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still no approval on the plates. the insurance company is a government group so you can do the math on how long that could potentially take. in typical "i want this done now!" fashion i've decided to get going on the old girl.

a little elbow grease got it to a state where a guy doesn't look like a coal miner after working on it for 5 minutes. well worth the time methinks. after a short while removing bits and pieces it's to a spot where i can start tagging and removing the wiring harness. maybe tonight.



things like this make me nervous. they are simple little fixes, but who knows what else is waiting to break and mangle me or the bike. pretty sweet electrical repairs:



and pretty cool use of marettes



the rubbers are 25 years old. most of them are pretty cracked... replacement required.



hey guzzi guys! what's going on here? looks like another plug hole or head stud to me. what is it?

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