Lennie's Camshaft Sprockets - Page 2

Hookalatch · 08-06-2010, 08:54 PM

PM sent.
Thanks,

Chuck

BERNERBUDDY · 08-07-2010, 05:28 PM

"These high-end CNC machined sprockets will advance the cam timing 9 degrees."

Whoa!!! Nine degrees cam timing is a bunch. I guess that would alter the torque curve some. Although I don't know much about the boxer motors. it's hard for me to believe that Bmw would miss the cam timing by that much, Seems to me they would just put in a different cam. IMHO

Hookalatch · 08-07-2010, 06:06 PM

I am no expert on these issues but variable camshaft degree engines vary the camshaft timing by 30 degrees or more. I don't think the 9 degrees is excessive. I think BMW made a good compromise in where the engine makes power. For my riding, lower in the RPM band is better, especially off-road.

Chuck

BERNERBUDDY · 08-07-2010, 09:15 PM

Well, varible timing camshafts and fixed timing camshafts are apples and oranges. A varible camshaft changes timing to optimize a particular mode of operation. A fixed camshaft is a compromise of all modes of operation. Big Differance.

signit98 · 08-08-2010, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNERBUDDY

A fixed camshaft is a compromise of all modes of operation. Big Differance.

Exactly... and BMW compromised in a different range for that motor. While that may be good for some of the bikes (i.e. ST or S models), it may not be as suitable for the GS or RT...

As you said, it's a compromise. 9 degrees is not much, really, but in this case it shifts the torque curve about 1000 rpm lower across the band. While most everyone I have helped with the install (S, GS and ST) has had great experiences, it depends on how you ride.

If you like WOT, and the upper rpm band, they are NOT for you. If you like low to mid rpm power and torque and the occasional burst, they will make you smile A LOT!

Lennie did a great job and it took him a long time and much testing to get to where the sprockets are right now. He knows what he is doing and on top of that, is a stand up guy! I can provide direct contact and have done so for a few folks already. He is revamping his own website right now and it will be up and functional soon.

NO, i reap no benefits from any sales. He is just a friend and has a product that I firmly believe in, based on my experiences.

Sergiok · 08-09-2010, 08:51 AM

I'll second the above post... word for word, even though Lennie's not even a friend of mine.

Hookalatch · 08-09-2010, 09:17 AM

I have done a fair amount of searching on this and other forums regarding the use of these sprockets. There are not a whole lot of responders who have actually used the product. However the responses have been nearly 100% positive. I think they are worth a try and I have some on order. It may take me a few weeks to get them, install them, and evaluate them but I will give my feedback too. I have no friends or bias involved with any performance enhancing upgrades.

Chuck

Beezer · 08-09-2010, 11:23 AM

I was balking at the price, but fell into an Ebay deal at about half price & figured what the heck, won't lose any money to try them. Would I do it again at full price? Probably... it suits the way I ride & I love the jump it has a about 4000rpm.

pavement pounder · 08-09-2010, 01:29 PM

does it do anything for the shake at 4500 rpm?

CarSalesman · 08-09-2010, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavement pounder

does it do anything for the shake at 4500 rpm?

Unfortunately, NO.

pavement pounder · 08-10-2010, 04:19 AM

sounds like someone should do a "group buy"

sale this winter when some of us have our ride on blocks! I'd consider!

motorcyclemark · 08-10-2010, 07:11 AM

I really want these sprockets but am still on warranty. Whats your guys opinion ?

Bokrijder · 08-10-2010, 07:28 AM

I'm in for a group buy this fall or early winter.

MJStone

Jason Abbott · 08-10-2010, 09:56 AM

I installed the Booster Plug and sprockets in March. I've been much happier riding technical single track (lug and chug then blip the throttle) and two-up with luggage on the highway. No regrets. I did a little write-up of the installation.

signit98 · 08-10-2010, 12:04 PM

If you guys want to do a group buy, let me know. I'll talk to him.

He is slated to come over here anyway and maybe he can just bring a bunch of sets!? If not, shipping from OZ is easy enough.

08-06-2010, 08:54 PM	#16
Hookalatch ^OP Old and in the way Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Cottonwood, CA Oddometer: 157	Contact info PM sent. Thanks, Chuck

08-07-2010, 05:28 PM	#17
BERNERBUDDY Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Oddometer: 132	Nine Degrees "These high-end CNC machined sprockets will advance the cam timing 9 degrees." Whoa!!! Nine degrees cam timing is a bunch. I guess that would alter the torque curve some. Although I don't know much about the boxer motors. it's hard for me to believe that Bmw would miss the cam timing by that much, Seems to me they would just put in a different cam. IMHO

08-07-2010, 09:15 PM	#19
BERNERBUDDY Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Oddometer: 132	Varible Timing Camshfts Well, varible timing camshafts and fixed timing camshafts are apples and oranges. A varible camshaft changes timing to optimize a particular mode of operation. A fixed camshaft is a compromise of all modes of operation. Big Differance.

08-09-2010, 08:51 AM	#21
Sergiok Underwater Basketweaver Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Seal Beach, CA Oddometer: 179	I'll second the above post... word for word, even though Lennie's not even a friend of mine. __________________ '05 R1200GS '08 HP2Sport

08-09-2010, 01:29 PM	#24
pavement pounder Dirt is the spice of life Joined: Mar 2008 Location: East Coast Canada N46.313282,-64.598851 Oddometer: 743	does it do anything for the shake at 4500 rpm? __________________ The road to paradise is UN-paved! go for it! Life's too short to think twice! Charlie B. (The other Boorman) Trans-Lab 2010 - James Bay 2011 - Shenandoah to Deal's Gap 2011

08-07-2010, 06:06 PM	#18
Hookalatch ^OP Old and in the way Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Cottonwood, CA Oddometer: 157	I am no expert on these issues but variable camshaft degree engines vary the camshaft timing by 30 degrees or more. I don't think the 9 degrees is excessive. I think BMW made a good compromise in where the engine makes power. For my riding, lower in the RPM band is better, especially off-road. Chuck

08-09-2010, 09:17 AM	#22
Hookalatch ^OP Old and in the way Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Cottonwood, CA Oddometer: 157	I have done a fair amount of searching on this and other forums regarding the use of these sprockets. There are not a whole lot of responders who have actually used the product. However the responses have been nearly 100% positive. I think they are worth a try and I have some on order. It may take me a few weeks to get them, install them, and evaluate them but I will give my feedback too. I have no friends or bias involved with any performance enhancing upgrades. Chuck

08-09-2010, 11:23 AM	#23
Beezer Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Anchorage, formerly Spenard (hub of the universe) Oddometer: 4,421	I was balking at the price, but fell into an Ebay deal at about half price & figured what the heck, won't lose any money to try them. Would I do it again at full price? Probably... it suits the way I ride & I love the jump it has a about 4000rpm.

08-10-2010, 04:19 AM	#26
pavement pounder Dirt is the spice of life Joined: Mar 2008 Location: East Coast Canada N46.313282,-64.598851 Oddometer: 743	sounds like someone should do a "group buy" sale this winter when some of us have our ride on blocks! I'd consider! __________________ The road to paradise is UN-paved! go for it! Life's too short to think twice! Charlie B. (The other Boorman) Trans-Lab 2010 - James Bay 2011 - Shenandoah to Deal's Gap 2011

08-10-2010, 07:11 AM	#27
motorcyclemark Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Oddometer: 111	I really want these sprockets but am still on warranty. Whats your guys opinion ?

08-10-2010, 07:28 AM	#28
Bokrijder Soyez sans que peur Joined: Aug 2005 Location: North East Maryland Oddometer: 276	I'm in for a group buy this fall or early winter. MJStone

08-10-2010, 09:56 AM	#29
Jason Abbott Long time Idaho rider Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho, USA Oddometer: 485	I installed the Booster Plug and sprockets in March. I've been much happier riding technical single track (lug and chug then blip the throttle) and two-up with luggage on the highway. No regrets. I did a little write-up of the installation. __________________ • http://trailimage.com/ photo ride reports • https://www.facebook.com/jason.e.abbott

08-10-2010, 12:04 PM	#30
signit98 Nutcase... really! Joined: May 2008 Location: Sun Diego, Mexifornia Oddometer: 784	If you guys want to do a group buy, let me know. I'll talk to him. He is slated to come over here anyway and maybe he can just bring a bunch of sets!? If not, shipping from OZ is easy enough. __________________ Ralf Wilkowski Been there - already forgot about it...! Follow my Journey, pursue insanity: www.itwasnotme.com

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