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Old 04-11-2013, 05:27 AM   #3301
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the plastic knob on the dimmer broke off. Is there anything I can splice in to replace the switch? It still works but the adjuster is flush to the housing and I can only turn it by sticking a key in there.
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Not much will stick to the polyethelyne shaft for the knob. I would recommend setting it up to come on with the bike, you will not need to adjust it once you find the dimmed setting. Full power available with a flick of your high beam.

How the heck did it get "broke off"?
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:46 AM   #3302
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Not much will stick to the polyethelyne shaft for the knob. I would recommend setting it up to come on with the bike, you will not need to adjust it once you find the dimmed setting. Full power available with a flick of your high beam.

How the heck did it get "broke off"?
Yeah it's basically is set up that way but it's nice to have the ability to turn it off. I winter ride my bike up here and dropped it on a trail. The tank bag rubbed against it and the knob snapped off. I think it was brittle due to the cold.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:10 AM   #3303
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Yeah it's basically is set up that way but it's nice to have the ability to turn it off. I winter ride my bike up here and dropped it on a trail. The tank bag rubbed against it and the knob snapped off. I think it was brittle due to the cold.
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I would try either cutting a groove in it that you can use a fingernail or small screwdriver on, or use a suitable bit of metal like a cut flat top nail and melt it into the shaft. Of course I am not sure of the size of the shaft.

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:13 PM   #3304
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I recently installed a pair of Model 60 on my FJR (a sport touring motorcycle). I really should have known better, but I bought into the hype.

The Model 60 puts out lots of light, but since it is a true flood light I found that the light did not go where it was useful. I don't want to insult anyone who has a grasp of what I mean, but for those who might be unclear here is what I encountered.

The Model 60 as a flood light sends the light up, down, and to the sides pretty equally. The light going up looks impressive in some photos, but other than when approaching a steep hill, there is nothing up there that I want to see. The light to the side could be useful for spotting critters at the edge of the road, and this what I was after, but that didn't work out. The big problem comes with the light that goes down, the light that lights up the road in front of the bike. This light would be useful on the trail or at very slow speeds, but it basically blinds you for what is down the road. This is why your headlights, driving lights, and fog lights all have specific reflectors. They put the light where it will do you the most good.

Again, I should have known better since I've read articles that explain why you don't want lights that reflect off the road surface in front of you. Reading many positive posts I thought I could find a good aiming compromise, but I couldn't, and believe me I tried, over and over. If I aimed high enough to keep the light off the road right in front of the bike the light were pretty much pointed toward the sky. If I aimed to the side enough to keep the light from the road in front of the bike I was lighting up the edges of the road very close to me, not down the road to let me see potential hazards. At any speed above 40mph I could see much better down the road with the Model 60 lights off and my high beam on.

An ATV or dirt bike on the trail would likely benefit from these lights, but they definitely were not designed to provide useful light for a motorcycle on the highway. Lots of lumens does not always equal better lighting.

If, after reading this you are still thinking of buying a set of lights for your motorcycle, you might want to do yourself a favor and only order one to start. That way you can try it out and if it isn't going to work for your application you are only out the cost of one light instead of two since there is a 'no return' policy for lights from this vendor.

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Old 04-11-2013, 04:04 PM   #3305
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I would try either cutting a groove in it that you can use a fingernail or small screwdriver on, or use a suitable bit of metal like a cut flat top nain and melt it into the shaft. Of course I am not sure of the size of the shaft.

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Good idea Jiim!

Thanks for that.

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Old 04-11-2013, 04:53 PM   #3306
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I recently installed a pair of Model 60 on my FJR (a sport touring motorcycle). I really should have known better, but I bought into the hype.

The Model 60 puts out lots of light, but since it is a true flood light I found that the light did not go where it was useful. I don't want to insult anyone who has a grasp of what I mean, but for those who might be unclear here is what I encountered.

The Model 60 as a flood light sends the light up, down, and to the sides pretty equally. The light going up looks impressive in some photos, but other than when approaching a steep hill, there is nothing up there that I want to see. The light to the side could be useful for spotting critters at the edge of the road, and this what I was after, but that didn't work out. The big problem comes with the light that goes down, the light that lights up the road in front of the bike. This light would be useful on the trail or at very slow speeds, but it basically blinds you for what is down the road. This is why your headlights, driving lights, and fog lights all have specific reflectors. They put the light where it will do you the most good.

Again, I should have known better since I've read articles that explain why you don't want lights that reflect off the road surface in front of you. Reading many positive posts I thought I could find a good aiming compromise, but I couldn't, and believe me I tried, over and over. If I aimed high enough to keep the light off the road right in front of the bike the light were pretty much pointed toward the sky. If I aimed to the side enough to keep the light from the road in front of the bike I was lighting up the edges of the road very close to me, not down the road to let me see potential hazards. At any speed above 40mph I could see much better down the road with the Model 60 lights off and my high beam on.

An ATV or dirt bike on the trail would likely benefit from these lights, but they definitely were not designed to provide useful light for a motorcycle on the highway. Lots of lumens does not always equal better lighting.

If, after reading this you are still thinking of buying a set of lights for your motorcycle, you might want to do yourself a favor and only order one to start. That way you can try it out and if it isn't going to work for your application you are only out the cost of one light instead of two since there is a 'no return' policy for lights from this vendor.
Try out the model 30s. They are a spot beam. I run a set on my ST bike and they work great
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:10 PM   #3307
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Try out the model 30s. They are a spot beam. I run a set on my ST bike and they work great
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I've considered them, but the light pattern on those seem to go too far the other direction to where they don't seem to light up much area, at least that what it seems like in the pictures I've seen.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:21 PM   #3308
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I've considered them, but the light pattern on those seem to go too far the other direction to where they don't seem to light up much area, at least that what it seems like in the pictures I've seen.
What about a combination of a spot to give you distance and a flood to fill that gap. It's generally what you'd do on a 4wd & is what I'd look to do.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:33 PM   #3309
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What about a combination of a spot to give you distance and a flood to fill that gap. It's generally what you'd do on a 4wd & is what I'd look to do.
The problem with the combination is that you still have the flood light blinding you. Even one flood light is enough to put way too much light on the road directly in front of the bike.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:15 PM   #3310
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Have you tried taping a Pringles can to it to keep the light off the road directly in front of you ? No ? Me neither ! Yet...
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:00 AM   #3311
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Have you tried taping a Pringles can to it to keep the light off the road directly in front of you ? No ? Me neither ! Yet...
i was thinking something like that...
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:02 AM   #3312
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I recently installed a pair of Model 60 on my FJR (a sport touring motorcycle). I really should have known better, but I bought into the hype.

The Model 60 puts out lots of light, but since it is a true flood light I found that the light did not go where it was useful. I don't want to insult anyone who has a grasp of what I mean, but for those who might be unclear here is what I encountered.

The Model 60 as a flood light sends the light up, down, and to the sides pretty equally. The light going up looks impressive in some photos, but other than when approaching a steep hill, there is nothing up there that I want to see. The light to the side could be useful for spotting critters at the edge of the road, and this what I was after, but that didn't work out. The big problem comes with the light that goes down, the light that lights up the road in front of the bike. This light would be useful on the trail or at very slow speeds, but it basically blinds you for what is down the road. This is why your headlights, driving lights, and fog lights all have specific reflectors. They put the light where it will do you the most good.

Again, I should have known better since I've read articles that explain why you don't want lights that reflect off the road surface in front of you. Reading many positive posts I thought I could find a good aiming compromise, but I couldn't, and believe me I tried, over and over. If I aimed high enough to keep the light off the road right in front of the bike the light were pretty much pointed toward the sky. If I aimed to the side enough to keep the light from the road in front of the bike I was lighting up the edges of the road very close to me, not down the road to let me see potential hazards. At any speed above 40mph I could see much better down the road with the Model 60 lights off and my high beam on.

An ATV or dirt bike on the trail would likely benefit from these lights, but they definitely were not designed to provide useful light for a motorcycle on the highway. Lots of lumens does not always equal better lighting.

If, after reading this you are still thinking of buying a set of lights for your motorcycle, you might want to do yourself a favor and only order one to start. That way you can try it out and if it isn't going to work for your application you are only out the cost of one light instead of two since there is a 'no return' policy for lights from this vendor.
Where did you mount your lights?

Give me a call or email (9549935581 or sandjoh@gmail.com) I'd like to have an opporutnity to meet your lighting needs. Sounds like you may have needed a spot.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:09 AM   #3313
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Where did you mount your lights?

Give me a call or email (9549935581 or sandjoh@gmail.com) I'd like to have an opporutnity to meet your lighting needs. Sounds like you may have needed a spot.
I started with the lights mounted on the forks and then tried them under the mirrors. Neither location was acceptable since both produced the same problem, way too much light hitting the road surface in front of the bike.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:08 AM   #3314
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I started with the lights mounted on the forks and then tried them under the mirrors. Neither location was acceptable since both produced the same problem, way too much light hitting the road surface in front of the bike.
From my experience that is what fogs do. I have the spots and they do not do that! I can see way down the road, though there is no cut off, I do not use them in traffic.

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Old 04-12-2013, 11:43 AM   #3315
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I started with the lights mounted on the forks and then tried them under the mirrors. Neither location was acceptable since both produced the same problem, way too much light hitting the road surface in front of the bike.
Please contact me if you have any interest in the Model 30s.
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