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Old 09-19-2013, 01:16 PM   #3556
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weight and complexity

If you mean the headlight guard, it came on the bike.

And I figure the more weight over the front wheel the better right.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:30 PM   #3557
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If you mean the headlight guard, it came on the bike.

And I figure the more weight over the front wheel the better right.
Well in that case, go for it. I thought you were purchasing the guard.

I find the front end a bit heavy on the Z, I ride mine in the sand often. The front end tends to push, unlike other bikes that I have.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:55 PM   #3558
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Christmas is right around the corner.... a set of M60's are on my list. Just waiting on a "sale".

Love my 30's..... ready for my 60's.
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:51 PM   #3559
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Well in that case, go for it. I thought you were purchasing the guard.

I find the front end a bit heavy on the Z, I ride mine in the sand often. The front end tends to push, unlike other bikes that I have.
Keep a fresh knobby on the front and a worn one on the back...should balance the push out.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:16 PM   #3560
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Keep a fresh knobby on the front and a worn one on the back...should balance the push out.
Usually just ride the 300 2t, it doesn't care what surface it is on
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:30 PM   #3561
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Or you could put a 4.50 x 18 rear wheel on the front and back like the PO of my DRZ. Not sure how it performs in sand though, as I am properly landlocked. I was surprised at how well it handled in rutted dirt. But back to the thread at hand:

Are there pics of the Yamaha replacement of original headlight? I think even better than a 62, I might be able to mount a 60 and a 61 in the stock headlight space in place of the original headlamp.

And then they'd be behind the guard for all the roost I will be getting.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:00 AM   #3562
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Are there pics of the Yamaha replacement of original headlight?
Drilled hole in plastic headlight lens.


Opened up the rear of the stock light housing using a dremel to fit the threaded section of the light through. The curvature of the stock headlight reflector did not allow LED light to sit flat, so only a few threads reached the rear of the headlight. I added some quiksteel to the bed the light on the interior of the headlight reflector, used a bit different heatsink than standard.



The stock headlight housing is tiny, just over 2" tall, I didn't think the light would fit so I'm happy with the outcome. Especially after riding in the dark last night
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:59 PM   #3563
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I just bought a model 60 to go with my two model 30s. The model 30s aren't on a relay and are controlled with a separate switch.

For the single model 60, I'd like to wire it so that it only comes on when the high beams are on. I don't want a separate switch for it. Basically, I want that to become part of the high beams. When the highs are flicked on, I want this on, when they're flicked off, I want this off. I didn't buy the dimmer switch with hi beam bypass because I don't want/need that feature.

Can I just splice into the high beam wires?

Or would I need some sort of relay?

Could anyone draw up a wiring diagram for me? All of the diagrams I've come across aren't for my situation. Thanks.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:39 PM   #3564
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Max, If it were me, I'd take the power from your high beam switch to toggle a 30 amp relay then feed the output to power both your headlight high beam and John's W60. Use 14 ga. wire from your battery thru a separate 30 amp fuse into the relay and 16 or 18 ga. to each of the lights. Easy enuff to wire up.

Keep us posted.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #3565
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(John, on a side note, I wired my 60 direct thru my high beam switch and the 44 thru the dimmer. Each is operated thru a 30 amp relay. I found the cut-off from the dimmer, no diode in that piece of wire.)
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:38 PM   #3566
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Max, If it were me, I'd take the power from your high beam switch to toggle a 30 amp relay then feed the output to power both your headlight high beam and John's W60. Use 14 ga. wire from your battery thru a separate 30 amp fuse into the relay and 16 or 18 ga. to each of the lights. Easy enuff to wire up.

Keep us posted.
I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to 12V wiring that is more complicated than wiring something directly to the battery. I'm pretty sure this isn't a complicated wiring job... But it is for me! Is there any way that you (or anyone) could draw up a schematic? Sorry to be a pain!
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:44 PM   #3567
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Drilled hole in plastic headlight lens.

Man, that is awesome!!
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:47 PM   #3568
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I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to 12V wiring that is more complicated than wiring something directly to the battery. I'm pretty sure this isn't a complicated wiring job... But it is for me! Is there any way that you (or anyone) could draw up a schematic? Sorry to be a pain!

Here is a schematic I just finished for hooking up a couple of LED lights, and integrating switches and LED lights into an HDB Top Clamp.

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Old 09-23-2013, 11:29 AM   #3569
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SteveO, that's a great diagram. I'm doing similar to my DRZ right now. My diagram is pencil on paper. Did you set up a negative system? (Just kidding. on my diagram, my head lights are on the left. :) )

Your wiring in the next pic looks similar too. Rat's nest! So far, everything works tho.

Max, wiring is just another skill. Either learn how and pay thru the nose. I'm cheap. (Plus, I've worked with low-voltage, house-hold, aircraft and telco wiring since 1965. I don't claim to be a pro at any of it (now retired) but muscle memory seems to get me thru the process.)

SteveO's diagram is good if complex. (Not complicated, there is a big diff.) Just isolate out the part ya need and work from there.

Most relays (which you will want to put in, trigger thru bike wiring and toggle switch; load to the lights direct from a fused lead from the battery) have a diagram right on the side. You'll only use 4 terminals, trigger + and -, load voltage in and out. "Far" side of the lights go direct to ground.

The load requirement on the LED lights is small enuff you could probably get along without a relay, but doing it right the first time is just better.

Hope this helps a little. Keep us posted.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:49 PM   #3570
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Here is a schematic I just finished for looking a couple of LED lights, and integrating switches and LED lights into an HDB Top Clamp.

This is just what I needed. A bit complex, as George said, but I think I was able to figure out what I needed from it. Thanks for posting it.

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SteveO, that's a great diagram. I'm doing similar to my DRZ right now. My diagram is pencil on paper. Did you set up a negative system? (Just kidding. on my diagram, my head lights are on the left. :) )

Your wiring in the next pic looks similar too. Rat's nest! So far, everything works tho.

Max, wiring is just another skill. Either learn how and pay thru the nose. I'm cheap. (Plus, I've worked with low-voltage, house-hold, aircraft and telco wiring since 1965. I don't claim to be a pro at any of it (now retired) but muscle memory seems to get me thru the process.)

SteveO's diagram is good if complex. (Not complicated, there is a big diff.) Just isolate out the part ya need and work from there.

Most relays (which you will want to put in, trigger thru bike wiring and toggle switch; load to the lights direct from a fused lead from the battery) have a diagram right on the side. You'll only use 4 terminals, trigger + and -, load voltage in and out. "Far" side of the lights go direct to ground.

The load requirement on the LED lights is small enuff you could probably get along without a relay, but doing it right the first time is just better.

Hope this helps a little. Keep us posted.
I always learn to work on things instead of paying other people to do them... Because I'd rather spend my money on farkles and fuel! Thanks for the help!

Before I go in and wire it up, I drew up a schematic. How does it look? Particularly, do I have the positive and negative wires from the model 60 in the correct place? Thanks.





I ordered on Friday and my light came in on Monday. FAST! Thanks Sanjoh. I already mounted my model 60 and just hardwired it to the battery to get it aimed. WOW! I thought my model 30s were bright. Holy cow, this thing is great!
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