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Old 11-28-2004, 09:16 AM   #16
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McQueen on his Rickman/Metisse Triumph. ATGATT.
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:20 AM   #17
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Rokon had some ISDT experience. They did more than build those crazy 2WD bikes:



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Old 11-28-2004, 09:31 AM   #18
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Since NF brought up the ISDT, do you guys remember the Maico 760 two stroker? It was built to manhandle BMW's big boxer entries. It was the biggest two stroke single ever made (that I know of) for a motorcycle.

Rick Sieman did a good article on the 760 at offroad.com:

http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/nov00rsMaico760.html



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Old 11-28-2004, 09:39 AM   #19
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whats a QUB? Desert Racers? I'be bin meaning to PM JN Robert and ask him if he is...JN Robert.
The infallible Mr. Roberts introducing the world to extreme motorcycling in 1971 on a Rokon Trailbreaker:

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Old 11-28-2004, 10:28 AM   #20
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I'be bin meaning to PM JN Robert and ask him if he is...JN Robert.
No I'm the other JN Robert. I chose it because I figured no one would know who it was - what was I thinking? I' need to PM someone to get it changed as its well past its sell by date.

I love the Yam 500 and owned the SR for a year. I often thought about buying on of those kits. If I had the time for a restoration project, this would be it:



Didn't Ric Johnson ride one when he was with Yamaha?
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:44 AM   #21
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I think RJ did race a thumper now that you mention it JN.
(McNabb in for a TD 7-3 Eagles)

Bullshit on restoration, I'd like to find one of those things just as it sits.

Rick Seiman. I might have done better in high school if I hadn't spent my study halls reading Super Hunkys column in Dirt Bike. Somewhere on the net is a real nice article by him explaining in detail the rise and fall of Maico.

I think he used the analogy that basically if you rode a Maico you were cheating, as the bikes were that much better. Witness the success of the Europeans on stock Maico's in the Trans Am series. He never did come up with a reason why they weren't winning over in Europe against Roger DeCoster more often, though in hindsight, I think the argument could be made that it was DeCoster who was "cheating" by default given the amount of support he was enjoying and the bikes Suzuki provided him.

anybody know anything about Super Hunky these days?
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:01 PM   #22
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I think he used the analogy that basically if you rode a Maico you were cheating, as the bikes were that much better. Witness the success of the Europeans on stock Maico's in the Trans Am series. He never did come up with a reason why they weren't winning over in Europe against Roger DeCoster more often, though in hindsight, I think the argument could be made that it was DeCoster who was "cheating" by default given the amount of support he was enjoying and the bikes Suzuki provided him.
When I was a kid a guy down my street raced a Maico (don't know which one) He ran over his own foot and got his leg caught in the rear wheel. Something had to give and it happened to be his leg. For some reason that just added to the Maico myth for me.

I later got a 440 and remember it as a very mean bike. Wish I still had it.

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Old 11-28-2004, 02:06 PM   #23
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Rick Seiman. I might have done better in high school if I hadn't spent my study halls reading Super Hunkys column in Dirt Bike. Somewhere on the net is a real nice article by him explaining in detail the rise and fall of Maico.
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anybody know anything about Super Hunky these days?
Last I heard, he was carrying the torch over at offroad.com

I spent most of my teen years reading his stuff. I even had a Super Hunky t-shirt for a while. Forever burned into my mind was an article on the SC500 and the ten worst dirt bikes of all time.

Also, That Maico article is over at offroad.com.

I remember seeing the dual rear wheel BMW. I've been digging through some old Cycle mags (70's) trying to find it.
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Nice bike. I'm holding out for the 760.
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Damned thing ate my post.

All these old names. A small Belgian fellow won the 125cc World Championship for Suzuki in '75-77. Went on to race a twin cylinder 125cc Gilera in the early 80's, before taking on, and winning, the Paris-Dakar for BMW in '84-85. He crashed in '86, and resurfaced in '87, once again on a Suzuki, and back at the Dakar:



What ever happened to Jimmy Weinert?
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:47 PM   #26
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I used to sit in study hall, oogling stuff like this:



I should have had some smut like the other kids, but I was a bike nut already.
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Old 11-28-2004, 03:29 PM   #27
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What ever happened to Jimmy Weinert?
He's right here in Orange County NY with me. I believe he runs his fathers scrap metal recycling biz, and does well with it. His father goes back in Orange County with the other "big" names from the area. They rode and raced Harleys and Indians, one track was on my grandfathers property about a mile from where I sit right now. Mr. Weinert is getting up there but still around, in his 80's. Cycle News had a GREAT interview with Don Jones a few issues back. He was really involved with the early development of the YZ's that Gary Jones and Jimmy Weinert rode, 88 and 66 meant so much to a 14 year old in 1971. Even to the leather strap holding the gas tank on, they just did it because when they had someone make them a fiberglass tank they never accounted for mounting it. Great read, it was in August I think. Jimmy Weinert won a Supercross one time with a paddle tire as I recall, and then I think they banned it. Jamming Jimmy Weinert...Orange County's got Indian Larry, OCC, Jimmy Weinert, Teds V Twin, Pat Moroney, who rode for Fox circa 1978 and won the support class at Unadilla twice, and now runs a very top notch dirt track team, Fast Hog, came within a whisker of winning the #1 plate a few years ago, and Nachtflug....
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All these old names. A small Belgian fellow won the 125cc World Championship for Suzuki in '75-77. Went on to race a twin cylinder 125cc Gilera in the early 80's, before taking on, and winning, the Paris-Dakar for BMW in '84-85. He crashed in '86, and resurfaced in '87, once again on a Suzuki, and back at the Dakar:
Gaston Rahier? Maico also had a kick ass rider called Gaston (Mosier?) who never won a world champ but was a great rider.
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I also remember a motocross track a few miles up the road from Middletown in Modena, Ulster County I think, and I saw Wienert there when I was a kid.

OC has alotta talent these day, eh?

I have been to Unadilla a few times too. It was a haul, but the girl that eventually became my wife was going to school in Oneonta. Made for a good roadtrip.
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Gaston Rahier? Maico also had a kick ass rider called Gaston (Mosier?) who never won a world champ but was a great rider.
That would be Gassing Gaylon Mosier. Sadly killed by a truck while bicycling in upstate NY in town for Unadilla.
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