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08-16-2010, 04:56 PM
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Studly Adventurer
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And so have I, but it becomes something to think about if you expect to tour - waiting out Vespa, USA in some boondocks ville while they, ah, 'respond' is not my idea of fun.
I like the bikes; I've owned the bikes; the bikes are good - the corporate support blows goats. N America is not important to Piaggio. Forget what they say; even dealers complain about what they do...or not...I have heard it, seen it, and been on the receiving end of it myself. They are making no real attmept to widen their market share here; even at home, their position has eroded relative to Japan and Taiwan. It's a goddamn shame - I want to buy the 500ie but if the N American market is too small for Piaggio to properly support - and support according to US business practices and expectations, and not Italian standards - well, so be it. Piaggio, Aprilia, 'Beo mega scoots will only ever be 'boutique' marques here is parts support remains as it is.
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08-21-2010, 12:51 PM
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MarkF
Joined: Oct 2003
Location: Connecticut
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Doesnt it have the same drivetrain as the Piaggio BV500?
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08-22-2010, 12:26 PM
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Location: Snohomish county, Washington USA
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08-22-2010, 12:37 PM
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250cc is 50cc too many
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08-23-2010, 01:33 PM
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Location: SoCal
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08-26-2010, 08:05 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2010
Location: Kingston, Washington
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I'm Scooter-curious. I see several people reporting that the Beo (as well as other larger scooters) has enough power for the highway and accelerating from a stop, but are they stable at highway speeds? Are they good on rougher streets?
I'm interested in possibly getting a scooter one day. To explain where I come from I used to own a Honda Rebel 250. I found it to be nimble in city traffic but never great accelerating from a stop and though several owners would say you could take it out on the highway, I found it terrible at maintaining any sort of highway speed except when going downhill or on flat ground. I also found it to be rather unstable at highway speeds with the bike reacting more than I found comfortable to any rut or tar strip in the road. I later sold it for a Suzuki C50 (an 800cc-ish cruiser) and found a night and day difference with the larger, wider front tire much less sensitive to imperfections in the road. |
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08-26-2010, 08:36 AM
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Look a moose
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Most owners say it will top 100mph!! I was two up on the freeway doing 85mph (keeping up with traffic) and it still had plenty to give for passing. She rode stable and I was confident and comfortable at those speeds. The large wheel size is the key to this, I've had small wheeled scoots 8"/10" and going over 50mph can get twitchy I'm in love with this scoot, its acts/rides like a motorcycle.. SCOOTERCYCLE!!! Go test ride one and you'll see... It's all good.
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08-26-2010, 12:39 PM
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Location: Snohomish county, Washington USA
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I actually find that due to the weight and low center of gravity, my Beo is more stable on the freeway than my DR650. The DR can get blown around a bit, which certainly increases the pucker factor at times!
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08-29-2010, 02:48 AM
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BAZINGA!
Joined: Apr 2006
Location: Croatia
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a few of which I've had a ride on.. all have better handling/suspension then my Ninja 650.
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02-17-2011, 09:17 AM
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BAZINGA!
Joined: Apr 2006
Location: Croatia
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Any new Scarabeo 500 owners?
![]() Seems they put the new(er) 493cc piaggio master engine (from the fuoco/mp3 500, bv500 cruiser) in it.. and I've been eyeballing a used one localy.. Anyone want my Kwak?
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02-17-2011, 10:19 AM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Morgan Hill CA
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I don't own one, but I know a few who have. All I can say is overall they are REALLY nice scoots. They are the ultimate mix of both worlds of scooters. While they are big scooters with 500 cc motors, they aren't nearly as big as your typical maxi scooter like a Burgman 400 or 650. They are lighter and far less bulky overall, and without any saddle bags or trunks, etc they look more like a 250 cc or 300 cc big wheeled scooter. This makes them a lot more practical for around town riding, and more fun in the twisties. BUT they still have a 500 cc engine, higher ratio transmission, suspension, frame, etc of a 500 so they can handle interstates with ease and have plenty of power. They top out at around 100 MPH, which is enough for almost any highway riding. So all in all, I would check one out. Keep scanning Craigslist, once in a while they pop up for around $3,500 around here. |
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02-17-2011, 10:23 AM
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BAZINGA!
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![]() Check my location.. But thanks for the thumbs up. I'm not sure if I can make myself get a non-ABS bike yet.
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02-17-2011, 10:41 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Location: Morgan Hill CA
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Oh, I forgot about that. That kind of sucks. How much are they going for new over there? They go for about $6,300 MSRP here, which is completive. BTW as for the ABS there is an ABS version of the Burgman 400, don't know if you'll get it over there or not. But good luck finding a scoot! |
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02-17-2011, 11:13 AM
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BAZINGA!
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(493cc), the Downtown 300i and Xciting 500Ri.. The Scarabeo 500 I.E. (new) is more or less $8600, which is already above my budget. , ABS version was never available here. Burgman 400 is over $11.500 without ABS! My bike (ER6F/650R ABS) was cheaper then that.. Like that's not enough.. most of us work for less then $600/month. Different thread..
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02-17-2011, 01:41 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Location: Morgan Hill CA
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No problem. I understand your situation. The Burgman 400 regular version costs $6,599 and theres a sale on it so its only $5,599 brand new right now! The Burgman 400 ABS has a bit of a heafty price tag at $7,499, but its not that bad with the $1,000 off it is $6,499. Thats sucks that they cost that much there! The 650 only costs $8,699/ $7,699 with sale here. Thats a LOT of money of a 400 cc scooter! Who has that kind of money for a scooter? I also don't have a lot of money either right know, but I am hoping I will be making some soon. But I unfortunantly now have my eye on a used Road King/ or another Touring model Harley! And THEN a Burgman 400 maybe, and who knows whats next? ![]() Your looking into a bigger scooter though? I mean if bikes are cheaper than big scooters over there, then maybe a bike that meets your needs better? Or find a good deal on a used scoot. I personally love scooters, but if a bike costs less and makes more sense, I won't have much of a choice. |
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