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Old 04-17-2012, 02:45 AM   #766
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Hmmm, we’ll have to compare sidestands when mine gets here. I believe it’ll be another iteration of the Phreaky Phil example, but apparently I could’ve gone local.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:01 PM   #767
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I learnt how important side stands are on the last ride. had to open & close a gate on a steep grade. I couldn't employ it (was going to type 'get it up' but nordie lurks here) going downhill & couldn't get it off (facepalm) going up hill - took about 5grunting minutes with me ending up behind it pushing it like a stubborn cow.
In the end I laid him down on the barrel & did the business



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Old 04-17-2012, 01:57 PM   #768
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:46 AM   #769
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hur hur hur, he said 'get it up'
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:50 AM   #770
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:47 AM   #771
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i dont know why you s peoples dont like the std sidestand....i dont find it a hardship to put it down after i have dismounted.. and as soon as you get on you are off....no pissing around kicking it up.
it did take a short acclimatization period.I can JUUUSSSTTTT use it still seated
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:30 AM   #772
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I also don't mind the flick up stand. It's no big deal, not enough to spend money on.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:46 AM   #773
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i dont know why you s peoples dont like the std sidestand....i dont find it a hardship to put it down after i have dismounted.. and as soon as you get on you are off....no pissing around kicking it up.
it did take a short acclimatization period.I can JUUUSSSTTTT use it still seated
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I also don't mind the flick up stand. It's no big deal, not enough to spend money on.
Its all part of that scope creep thing. The Hardhead protectors will do away with the sidestand, 'cause they mount off the crashbars, which wil be ditched. BTW, those wn't be on this weekend.

Also a firmer, more readily accessible side stand is always good.

I also didn't have major issues with the stock stand, but...

The issue I might have had with the new stand is it may have hung a little lower than ideal. Its fairly stout though
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:52 AM   #774
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The stock stand is fine - and I’ve been using a "dismount and deploy” technique with airheads for years. I have no problem with that, or the spring loaded-ness of them.

The limitations of the ‘Panda’s stand were only recently apparent to me. Loaded up with gear there have been a few occasions where the weight has almost levered the bike off of the stand. The center stand is not always appropriate due to terrain. Sooo, I’m hoping that the scuttlebutt holds true, and that the “ala Phreaky Phil” design fixes things by shortening that “lever”.

I was prepared to live with it actually, but now that the crash bars are going, I will need a different stand regardless.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #775
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Re the head preotectors, are you guys worried about whacking the barrels off?
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:47 PM   #776
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Re the head protectors, are you guys worried about whacking the barrels off?
The old Crashbars tend to cause more damage than they protect in a hard drop. They are good for gentle drops, other than that they tend to fold back into the rocker boxes, & break those.

On the RS (when I tangled with a van in the UK), the crashbar caused damage to the value gear / head. The Barrels were fine.

The Hardhead protectors are effectively just sliders.

When you do the pushrods you'll see that the studs / cases are fairly substantial.

If you break the barrels off the cases, then you are going to have wider issues, like a totally munted frame.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:56 PM   #777
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I am usually carry a bit of epoxy with me. That should be able to fix most problems. Alternatively, you can carry a spare cover. I have one of those. I still take the kitchen sink, but if I leave the fridge at home, there is room for a valve cover . If it wasn't for the side stand I'd get rid of the crash bars. Maybe I can figure out how to mount it without those.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:58 PM   #778
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Yup. Had an old guy smack me in the right hand cylinder years ago - no crashbars. Didn’t see me going straight ahead as he turned right. I kept it upright somehow and coasted to a stop. The damage was some scratches and a broken spark plug and lead. His car was probably the worst off. That cylinder protected my leg for sure.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:01 PM   #779
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I am usually carry a bit of epoxy with me. That should be able to fix most problems. Alternatively, you can carry a spare cover. I have one of those. I still take the kitchen sink, but if I leave the fridge at home, there is room for a valve cover . If it wasn't for the side stand I'd get rid of the crash bars. Maybe I can figure out how to mount it without those.
If the regular (largely American) posters on ADVrider Airheads section are to believed, then the list of spares you should carry when travelling precludes taking anything else with you
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:03 PM   #780
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Agreed. I can’t imagine taking a spare rotor for example.
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