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Old 08-23-2010, 10:14 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Krause Sidewinder Warning

I have had good experiences with sidewinder products before.
I have even said in this website they are the best.
My experiences were limited to other single cylinder dirtbikes I have owned using 520 sprockets and chains.

So now I ordered a titanium sprocket for my 950. When the package arrived (after 45 days):

1-The sprocket was thinner than the stock ktm stuff by just over 2 mm.
2-There was no "slot" cut into the sprocket for the stock KTM bolts.
3-The tips of the teeth were not "chamfered"

I was told about nothing when ordering.

They actually tried to convince me to run the sprocket anyways claiming their titanium stuff is much stronger so it can be thinner.

It would be like running a 520 sprocket with a 525 chain.
Not on my bike and not on my dollar I don't think so.
Refund was short $20 bucks and I had to pay for shipping back the stuff they sent me.
Needless to say they have lost a customer forever.
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:18 AM   #2
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thats to bad
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:20 PM   #3
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Yep. I had an even worse experience. With a dirt bike sprocket. Be forewarned.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:56 PM   #4
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I was considering Sidewinder sprockets for my imminent sprocket change. I'll look elsewhere. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:06 PM   #5
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I have the sidewinder on my xr400r and 919,always had good luck with the rears. I have broke teeth off their fronts on the xr???. Thanks for the info i'm glad thats not the one i've got coming.I would have thought they would be better quailty.
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:47 PM   #6
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I've had very good luck with Sidewinder sprockets, IMO they make a quality product and used them on my dirt bikes. Sorry to hear about your bad expierence with Sidewinder. I've also had good luck with Ironman sprockets, they also stand behind their products.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:34 AM   #7
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I had a crappy experience with Sidewinder the last time too. I also ran them for a while on my smaller dirt bikes, so I thought I'd try their 520 conversion. Not a good idea. The stuff didn't last, and customer service sucked. Do a search here for the relevant threads.

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Old 08-24-2010, 08:59 AM   #8
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Me think its best to stick with OEM KTM hard parts for the 990 torque monsters.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:36 PM   #9
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I WAS going to go the Sidewinder route, then Supersprox, finally settled on the IRONMAN. Got it on my 525, and the thing is fantastic so I figured how can I go wrong with one on my large orange baby. Only thing was, I wanted a 45 but they only had a 42 in stock and the 45 was going to be a long way off. 42 it was. Back to stock gearing for the first time in, like, forever, and I have to say that I do like it much better on the road with the 17/42. Lower revs and all that.


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Old 08-24-2010, 03:41 PM   #10
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Sounds like they sent you a 520 sprocket for a ktm thumper with bolt holes bored out to 10mm. Thetes not so much difference in fact, I've made several 520 conversion kits using KTM thumper sprockets. FWIW, 520 chains work fine on the 9X0 V twins.

Also... Ti? Not the best material for a sprocket. Expensive, not so great wear resistance and highly elastic. Hard to beat hardened steel imho.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:52 PM   #11
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Quote:
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Sounds like they sent you a 520 sprocket for a ktm thumper with bolt holes bored out to 10mm. Thetes not so much difference in fact, I've made several 520 conversion kits using KTM thumper sprockets. FWIW, 520 chains work fine on the 9X0 V twins.

Also... Ti? Not the best material for a sprocket. Expensive, not so great wear resistance and highly elastic. Hard to beat hardened steel imho.
its not all ti, i thought the same thing when i saw that its a Ti-Moly (titanium-chromoly)
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
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Thumbs down

I just want to make this clear once more:

Krause Sidewinder does not make sprockets for the KTM 950 no matter what they claim!!! Unless you do a converson full conversion down to a 520 or if you are willing to run a 520 sprocket with 525 chain, and also go find your own bolts because the stock KTM bolts won't work!

buzybraza screwed with this post 08-26-2010 at 09:32 AM
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:49 PM   #13
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They tried to do the same to me. They acted suprised and tried to convince me to run it. It was really sloppy, exactly 1/8" to be exact. It would not have worked and probably chewed up the chain guides and buffers.

So, I returned it for an anodized aluminum one they claimed would beat a steel one for wear. We'll see. Ended up costing me $25 more in shipping.

Was not impressed.

Next time it will be a tri-metal sprocket in the just released 44 tooth. 17/44 is the perfect gearing.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:47 PM   #14
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If you look over on some of the other dirt bike forums, the sentiments for Sidewinder are pretty much unanimous. Fortunately I had my bad experience with them many years ago and have been Sidewinder free ever since. The super "ti-moly" actually started to mushroom the edges at about 20 hours and no they were not interested, claimed it was normal wear.

Love the Ironman stuff.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:04 AM   #15
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Got a stainless sprocket set and chain for a quad back when it was the latest thing to have. Everything looks huge and over built, the 520 chain is quite wide.

But the chain never did stop stretching and the stainless steel sprocket started to show wear. Not worth the extra cost for "the last chain and sprocket you will ever need".
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