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Old 12-01-2012, 09:11 AM   #1
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Schuberth C3 Pro Anyone?

Anyone got the newer Schuberth C3 Pro? I am curious about the fit of the liner, especially in the forehead area, for those that suffered the "Mark of Schuberth", a too tight fit at the top of the forehead that became apparent after wearing for 1 1/2 hours. The marketing copy on the Pro says that there is a new liner. Any evidence of that from your experiences?

The C3 Pro's are available in europe, wondering if they are showing up here in US yet.

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Old 12-02-2012, 01:14 AM   #2
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I just got mine the other day from biker-land.de, will try to give some thoughts on it. I have owned a HJC (forget the model), Shoei RF-1000, and Bell RS-1 in the past, no experience with Schuberths prior to this. I currently don't have a bike but have a new R1200GS on order so I cannot give riding impressions of the Schuberth.

That being said, I have worn a C3 in stores before and I actually hated them. My head measures around 59.5-60cm and I wasn't aware of Schuberth sizing so I tried a large C3 first. It went on but was so uncomfortable that I had to take it off immediately. The XL C3 was much better but I could already sense a hot spot on my forehead after putting it on. I was not impressed at all with the quality of the comfort liner in the C3 either, much preferred the Shoei Neotec over the C3s that I tried that day. This saddened me as I really wanted to like the C3, the level of noise reduction, SRC system, and other features made it very attractive to me.

I saw the information online about the C3 Pro and I liked all I heard. Decided to take a chance and I am glad I did. I have had the helmet off and on around the house for the past few days and it is extremely comfortable. I get no hot spots around the crown of my head (with the vent tabs in the "open" or "closed" position) and the cheek pads are only a little tight. I am sure the cheek pads will break in and I am a little sensitive to it right now as I just had a wisdom tooth extracted. I thought the liner in the RS-1 was comfy, but the C3 Pro is just amazing IMO. Still getting used to the ratchet strap, it doesn't bother me like I have seen some people complain about with the C3, it is just different. I like the more aggressive look of the C3 Pro, very curious to see how the ventilation performs. I plan on getting the C3 Pro SRC system in a month or two but I do not have any experience with that yet.

My buying experience with Biker-Land.de was very positive. The helmet cost less than a normal C3 from a US retailer and shipping only took about 2 weeks.



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Old 12-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #3
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^^^ Thanks Bazgab, that is just the info I was looking for.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:02 PM   #4
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I spoke with the USA arm and they say it is currently being DOT tested- should be for sale in late winter/early spring

Non DOT C-3 Pro's helmets are illegal and will not be serviced in the USA
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:15 PM   #5
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Non DOT C-3 Pro's helmets are illegal and will not be serviced in the USA
What do you mean by "illegal"? Is that Shuberth's word, or yours? A helmet need not be DOT approved to be offered for sale.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:50 AM   #6
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Well, I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but here goes my attempt:

NYS Dept of Health: According to NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law, Section 381 ( http://www.safeny.ny.gov/mcyc-vt.htm ), requires helmets to meet federal motor vehicle safety standards, section 571.218. Look for the US DOT sticker on the helmet to identify ones that meet the standard.

Also from NYS Dept of Health: All helmets [legally] sold in the U.S. must meet the US DOT and Consumer Product Safety Commission Standards. The Snell Memorial Foundation, Inc. is a non-profit organization that conducts independent testing on helmets that have been certified by these other agencies. In order to be Snell certified, a helmet must pass more rigorous safety inspections.

Source: https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention...le_helmets.htm
I'm not saying these guys know what they are talking about, but they are a NYS department.

I don't know any law prohibits the sale of non DOT helmets in the US, if there is one it does not seem to be enforced much - just look at a few Harley/Squid helmets.

I don't believe that helmets sold by Schuberth outside the US have DOT approval

If you are wearing a non DOT approved helmet in the US and crash, Schuberth is worried about litigation/liability, etc - that is why they now offer their helmets in DOT approved versions, which are made differently than non DOT.

You can buy what you want and wear it. If you crash and injure yourself or your passenger - all bets are off and your financial destiny is in the hands of lawyers...good luck with that.

BTW: I am currently riding in US with a non DOT Neotec sourced from Europe. I crash all the time, trashed a lot of helmets, insurance always paid off to repair me and replace the helmets, usually Euro models, sometimes US market models.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:17 AM   #7
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Looks like Revzilla will carry it in the Spring, so I assume it will be available NA wide also:
http://www.revzilla.com/schuberth-c3-pro-helmet
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:09 AM   #8
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Does anyone know if the regular C3 SRC system will fit, work with the C3 Pro?
Or are they making a newer SRC system for the Pro model.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:03 AM   #9
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I just got one when I was on a work trip in Frankfurt. It is wonderful. I wear an Arai large and the Schuberth large fits me like a glove. Perfect fit and finish. The new aerodynamics should make it even more stable and it looks like it will last a very long time. Can't wait till the spring to try it out on the bike. BTW without VAT it is priced very well. The regular C3 is also available in Europe and it doesn't seem like it will be superseded by the pro and it is cheaper.

As far as the DOT issue, I think the Euro certification is even higher in requirements for safety, but either way it never has bothered me since I figure people in Europe are not dying in higher numbers than we are over here due to helmet build. I am confident that a non DOT Schuberth will protect you better than one of those 89 dollar Chinese made DOT approved jobs. Have never worried much about lawyers either.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:07 PM   #10
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Does anyone know if the regular C3 SRC system will fit, work with the C3 Pro?
Or are they making a newer SRC system for the Pro model.
It probably does, as it looks like it has the same connection points. But you definitely will miss out on the connection of the built-in antenna of the c3 pro.

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Old 12-22-2012, 02:21 PM   #11
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I will never care what the NYS Dept. Of Health thinks. (About anything)
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:50 PM   #12
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Yes, they frequently consult with MS on major issues
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:17 PM   #13
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I got the Schuberth C3 Pro in matte black today. Heading out on a 15,000 mile ride in about three weeks, and my Arai is so beat up I wanted something new.

Sitting still with the face mask closed is pretty claustrophobic since it is so well sealed off from the outside. Even so, sitting about a quarter mile fromt he freeway I could still hear the freeway noise pretty well, so general hearing is not too bad. And the mask is easy to open with one hand, so you can do it if the claustrophobia bothers you when stopped. I almost always open my face mask when stopped anyway.

At 80 mph, of course, you can still hear wind. Why wouldn't you? But it is diminished in intensity and the pressure buffeting you get with normal helmets is greatly diminished. I think this helmet will help a LOT on long rides with heavy cross winds.

I reallyd dislike the clear line that the pin lock insert makes in my upper vision. It irritates the hell out of me, but I think my brain will edit it out soon enough. If not I will take the pin lock out. Fog management does not bother me that much. My Arai fogged up a lot when I ride it in cold weather, but I ride even when it is ten degrees out and am used to dealing with it.

The helmet is very light. That is nice. General comfort seems really good. Like the ratchet strap and if it is adjusted right you dont notice it. You are sealed in so well, not sure you really need it anyway. ....just kidding. I will be in a position to say you it does on a 500 mile day, since I have 30 500 mile days in my near future....
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:40 PM   #14
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What do you mean by "illegal"? Is that Shuberth's word, or yours? A helmet need not be DOT approved to be offered for sale.

The poster said nothing about sale. If the helmet is non dot in the US, then Schuberth US will not honor warranties. Schuberth US is a great bunch of folks to do business with and I wouldn't consider it worthwhile to miss out on their warranty. I had warranty work performed on my C2 and I think they went above and beyond what they needed to do.
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I also don't care what MS says.
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