Rehydrating the Buffalo Project Bike - Page 2

LasseNC · 10-24-2010, 07:43 AM

That 3-1 exhaust looks weird, no expansionhcambers? :S

Higgspeed exhausts are cool!

Mechanista · 10-24-2010, 08:01 PM

I have started a similar project with my '72 that I've been riding for years.
Due to an accident this summer, I will be installing pipes, rear-sets, and bum-stopper seat from Omars. I am also getting the Rickman long fairing from Airtech.
Now the bike will look as fast as it really is!
How much did you pay for the Tarrozi bars?

odbuffalo · 10-25-2010, 09:08 AM

Lots of options for the bars here.

http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servlet/StoreFront

Start a thread with your bike, we can build and share notes.

ODB

YamaGeek · 10-25-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LasseNC

That 3-1 exhaust looks weird, no expansionhcambers? :S

Higgspeed exhausts are cool!

Not really an necessity considering the mild state of tune of the GT.

SAAB made 3 cylinder two strokes cars which were really mildly tuned. What SAAB did for their rally cars using their piston ported engines was to stuff the crankcase/crank, smooth the transfer ports, ( note, they did little in the way of opening up the ports..) and mill the head to raise the compression ratio. Doing all this pretty much took away most of the wonderful midrange the 750 and 850 cc triples had. This is going to be the case for any long stroke, mildly tuned, piston ported two cycle. The only way to really improve upon it would be to fabricate up reed boxes and new carburetor mounts just so you can keep some of the midrange.

A really good analogy of the same tuning would be to compare the Honda Elsinore enduro MT250 with the Elsinore CR250. The best you can expect is to lose your midrange and end up with a peaky screamer that blubbers and sags when given throttle below it's powerband.

Sniper X · 10-25-2010, 10:27 AM

It actually IS an exp[ansion chamber, but the big diameter silencer makes it look like a regular muffler. If you look under the frame, you can see cones right before the muffler starts. Thay make a cool one for the GT750 at Omars Flattrack.

odbuffalo · 11-08-2010, 09:02 AM

Well, its been awhile, slow progress but at least its still moving.

Ive been working on cleaning up the frame, removing unwanted and non needed tabs as you can see in this photo.

odbuffalo · 11-08-2010, 09:07 AM

The frame is coming along pretty nice, I also removed the tail section where the turn signals mount. The side stand bracket was broken so I just removed the old piece. Amazing how sloppy the welds are on these old bikes, especially by todays standards, so I tried to clean some up.

Im moving the electronics under the seat and have added a bracket for those.

As you can see in the photo, the small round 3 X 10 inch oil tank I had custom made that will mount where the air box would go.

Also I extended the swing arm 3 inches.

odbuffalo · 11-08-2010, 09:11 AM

Here it is with the swing arm mocked up to see how it will look. Those are billet Fox shocks off a HD. I think they look great.

Im not going for a true Cafe look, but more attitude, low, salt flat, drag, style, kinda bike, sort thing. . .

odbuffalo · 11-08-2010, 09:15 AM

But the seat keeps getting uglier. Not sure what Im gonna do with that. Maybe just keep trimming it down like this?

killfile · 11-08-2010, 08:31 PM

ooooh.. looking better in that last pic!
love the oil tank, but is that going to be large enough?

If you end up with a extra set of gt750 forks and triples that you don't want, let me know, I think I might have finally broken down and started considering swapping my T500 over to a GT750 front end..

odbuffalo · 11-09-2010, 01:48 PM

Thanks killfile, I will the set from the 74 (which I hear are the best years) and possibly the 72 forks, along with the a triple clamp set up from the 74.

killfile · 11-11-2010, 08:17 AM

I post this in every Suzuki twostroke thread, but it appears I didn't post it here yet!

http://www.suzuki2strokes.com/forum/index.php

Sundial Suzuki Forums, mainly Buffalo owners, but a few Titan-peeps (like myself) and a all round good mix of people and information. They have helped me a lot over the last 10 or so years!

Additionally, I am always a big fan of the 'open frame', so I run a speedcell battery on my CL350, tucked under the seat to remove the battery tray. I run the smaller one on the right, because I don't use a starter motor:

Link to Shop

odbuffalo · 11-12-2010, 10:43 AM

That battery set up would be awesome and really open up that middle section. Although at that price Ill have to unload this 74 van I have.

nowhereman · 11-12-2010, 07:10 PM

something like this one?

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Gotta love 2 stroke 750 triples, Whether they be GT750s, or H2's

motorcyclefanatic · 11-13-2010, 04:00 AM

Interested in seeing what you do with yours.

10-24-2010, 08:01 PM	#17
Mechanista manic depressive Joined: May 2004 Location: G.J. Colo. Oddometer: 367	Sweet! I have started a similar project with my '72 that I've been riding for years. Due to an accident this summer, I will be installing pipes, rear-sets, and bum-stopper seat from Omars. I am also getting the Rickman long fairing from Airtech. Now the bike will look as fast as it really is! How much did you pay for the Tarrozi bars? __________________ My wife knew I was this way before she even married me!

10-25-2010, 10:27 AM	#20
Sniper X De Oppresso Liber Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Central New Mexico, 7420ft above sea level Oddometer: 30,297	It actually IS an exp[ansion chamber, but the big diameter silencer makes it look like a regular muffler. If you look under the frame, you can see cones right before the muffler starts. Thay make a cool one for the GT750 at Omars Flattrack. __________________ "I claim to be frightened of horses but do so only to get out of attending parades. It's peculiar but ...it works. The Horses get it. RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE. IT'S VOLTAGE DIVIDED BY CURRENT

11-08-2010, 09:02 AM	#21
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	Well, its been awhile, slow progress but at least its still moving. Ive been working on cleaning up the frame, removing unwanted and non needed tabs as you can see in this photo. odbuffalo screwed with this post 11-08-2010 at 09:08 AM

11-08-2010, 09:07 AM	#22
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	The frame is coming along pretty nice, I also removed the tail section where the turn signals mount. The side stand bracket was broken so I just removed the old piece. Amazing how sloppy the welds are on these old bikes, especially by todays standards, so I tried to clean some up. Im moving the electronics under the seat and have added a bracket for those. As you can see in the photo, the small round 3 X 10 inch oil tank I had custom made that will mount where the air box would go. Also I extended the swing arm 3 inches. odbuffalo screwed with this post 11-08-2010 at 09:12 AM

11-08-2010, 09:15 AM	#24
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	But the seat keeps getting uglier. Not sure what Im gonna do with that. Maybe just keep trimming it down like this? odbuffalo screwed with this post 11-08-2010 at 09:31 AM

10-24-2010, 07:43 AM	#16
LasseNC XSessive! Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark, Danimarka, Danmark, Dänemark Oddometer: 946	That 3-1 exhaust looks weird, no expansionhcambers? :S Higgspeed exhausts are cool!

10-25-2010, 09:08 AM	#18
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	Lots of options for the bars here. http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servlet/StoreFront Start a thread with your bike, we can build and share notes. ODB

11-08-2010, 09:11 AM	#23
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	Here it is with the swing arm mocked up to see how it will look. Those are billet Fox shocks off a HD. I think they look great. Im not going for a true Cafe look, but more attitude, low, salt flat, drag, style, kinda bike, sort thing. . .

11-08-2010, 08:31 PM	#25
killfile 49/50 Joined: May 2010 Location: SF, CA Oddometer: 350	ooooh.. looking better in that last pic! love the oil tank, but is that going to be large enough? If you end up with a extra set of gt750 forks and triples that you don't want, let me know, I think I might have finally broken down and started considering swapping my T500 over to a GT750 front end..

11-09-2010, 01:48 PM	#26
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	Thanks killfile, I will the set from the 74 (which I hear are the best years) and possibly the 72 forks, along with the a triple clamp set up from the 74.

11-11-2010, 08:17 AM	#27
killfile 49/50 Joined: May 2010 Location: SF, CA Oddometer: 350	I post this in every Suzuki twostroke thread, but it appears I didn't post it here yet! http://www.suzuki2strokes.com/forum/index.php Sundial Suzuki Forums, mainly Buffalo owners, but a few Titan-peeps (like myself) and a all round good mix of people and information. They have helped me a lot over the last 10 or so years! Additionally, I am always a big fan of the 'open frame', so I run a speedcell battery on my CL350, tucked under the seat to remove the battery tray. I run the smaller one on the right, because I don't use a starter motor: Link to Shop

11-12-2010, 10:43 AM	#28
odbuffalo ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: FTW, Indiana Oddometer: 162	That battery set up would be awesome and really open up that middle section. Although at that price Ill have to unload this 74 van I have.

11-12-2010, 07:10 PM	#29
nowhereman I'm lost -don't follow me Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Muscat, Sultanate of Oman Oddometer: 386	something like this one? Gotta love 2 stroke 750 triples, Whether they be GT750s, or H2's __________________ 1990 R100GSPD 1964 LI125S with a 240 MRB kit

11-13-2010, 04:00 AM	#30
motorcyclefanatic The name says it all Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Christmas, FL; Blue Ridge, Ga Oddometer: 680	Got one too. Interested in seeing what you do with yours. __________________ http://www.johnnystoybox.com

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