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Five fingered shoes are the greatest advancement in foot wear, ladies dig the guys that wear them. 70 18.18%
Five fingered shoes are the greatest advancement in foot wear...but you'll never get laid. 88 22.86%
Five fingered shoes are a scam, fad...But the cool kids wear them... 13 3.38%
Five fingered shoes are a scam fad and if you wear them in public you'll never get laid, ever. 193 50.13%
Five fingered shoes... I have the hammer toe version... 21 5.45%
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:20 PM   #376
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Well, I guess that settles that...

Vibram has settled a class-action lawsuit that accused the company of making false and unsubstantiated claims about the health benefits of its Vibram FiveFingers footwear, according to a report Tuesday from Runners' World. The company will put $3.75 million into an escrow account to pay out settlements to class members and will remove all claims that its products either strengthen muscles or reduce injuries—unless it comes up with proof.

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Old 05-08-2014, 01:36 PM   #377
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After wearing them a couple days, I realized that having a bunion doesn't work with them...My toes kept slipping out of the designated openings ...so I sold them to my brother...He has normal feet and loves them...I may try them again if I ever get my feet fixed but till then, I'm stuck wearing conventional shoes...
My wife got her bunions fixed around 25 years ago. Took her a good 15 years to stop mentioning how nice it was on a fairly regular basis.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:03 PM   #378
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Well, I guess that settles that...

Vibram has settled a class-action lawsuit that accused the company of making false and unsubstantiated claims about the health benefits of its Vibram FiveFingers footwear, according to a report Tuesday from Runners' World. The company will put $3.75 million into an escrow account to pay out settlements to class members and will remove all claims that its products either strengthen muscles or reduce injuries—unless it comes up with proof.

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From a consumers' protection standpoint I get the point of the lawsuit and the settlement; however, from a common sense standpoint this makes no sense as to why there was a lawsuit in the first place. Modern shoes that we all wear to workout/play sports in have only been around a good 40-50 years. Prior to that, for the most part, we wore shoes that had more in common with flip-flops than the modern athletic shoe. Flip flops are almost being barefoot other than protecting you from whatever might be on the ground that could cause harm. (Yes, I know the high-fashion types of the Renaissance had shoes with high-heels and whatnot, but the "commoners" did not wear this type of shoe.)

Anyway. I still have a couple of pairs of Five-fingers. I wear them predominately while running or hiking. Just feels better to me.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:05 PM   #379
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They are great as kayaking or shower shoes.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:00 PM   #380
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I know my wife has a set of these in a closet somewhere, as I only seen her wear them a handful of times I can only assume they went as good as she was telling me they were.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:30 AM   #381
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I've got two pair. I don't care what anybody else says, or who sues who, they are still the most comfortable footwear I've ever put on.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:41 AM   #382
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From a consumers' protection standpoint I get the point of the lawsuit and the settlement; however, from a common sense standpoint this makes no sense as to why there was a lawsuit in the first place. Modern shoes that we all wear to workout/play sports in have only been around a good 40-50 years. Prior to that, for the most part, we wore shoes that had more in common with flip-flops than the modern athletic shoe. Flip flops are almost being barefoot other than protecting you from whatever might be on the ground that could cause harm. (Yes, I know the high-fashion types of the Renaissance had shoes with high-heels and whatnot, but the "commoners" did not wear this type of shoe.)

Anyway. I still have a couple of pairs of Five-fingers. I wear them predominately while running or hiking. Just feels better to me.
The problem they have is that from a consumer perspective (a typical idiot), whether it's actually going to be more healthful to run in an unstructured shoe is not black or white, and largely dependent on the typical idiot's decisions. How's that going to turn out? You're going to have idiots trying to run ultra-marathons in these things, and in 20 years time they'll be hobbling around with zero soft tissue under their calcaneus wondering whether it was so worth it to strengthen their digital flexors.

Use it in moderation and within healthful boundaries, and I'm sure vibram's got a sound argument for its benefits. But be a dumb-ass about it and you'll regret it...and so will vibram. The messaging around athletics always runs counter to that though. It's not...be healthy...do things in moderation. It's Be healthy...go do something your body is barely able to achieve....Yes, run a god damn marathon. Oh...you can run a marathon? Great...run two. Muscles...might react well to stress. They grow. Bones...to some degree do as well. Ligaments...Cartilage, Mensisci...these things don't react in the same manner...they wear down. They disappear. A shoe like vibrams will make that a larger dimension of what you subject your body to.

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Old 05-09-2014, 08:35 AM   #383
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I've got two pair. I don't care what anybody else says, or who sues who, they are still the most comfortable footwear I've ever put on.
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I run on pavement with mine. For me, just better than conventional shoes.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:08 AM   #384
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I've got two pair. I don't care what anybody else says, or who sues who, they are still the most comfortable footwear I've ever put on.
Nike free v3s are up there in comfort... Some days more comfortable...
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:50 AM   #385
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still love mine, 5th or so pair I have had. I used to get bad foot pain, but since wearing these foot condoms, gone...been years now.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:46 PM   #386
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I wear mine to the gym every single week to lift weights. They're fantastic for squatting and deadlifting.
I have no doubt that the lawsuit is a result of geniuses buying a new pair and hitting the streets for their normal run in them. By all accounts you need to start by wearing them for normal activity, just walking around and such, and then moving up to light jogging on soft surfaces such as grass for short periods, and slowly progressing from there.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:07 PM   #387
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I guess too, I don't buy things to make "me" better. I buy things that I can use and sometimes I get a benefit (sometimes I buy beer and just get drunk).

I think people forget that they have to "do" something to make a product work.

Buying P90X and letting the DVD sit on the player isn't doing anything for you.

Buying Vibrams doesn't make your feet stronger, but if you work up to it (like any exercise) you will feel a difference in your feet. Whether your feet are overall stronger, I don't know, but it does feel different and I like to mix it up. I think it is like cross training for your feet.
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