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Old 10-03-2010, 10:45 PM   #1
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aprilia-mana-850-gt with cvt tran scooter or not?

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...a-mana-850-gt/

aprilia-mana-850-gt kind of pushes what we think of scooters. If it CVT trans does that make it a scooter? Nice bike ether way
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:19 AM   #2
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aprilia-mana-850-gt kind of pushes what we think of scooters. If it CVT trans does that make it a scooter? Nice bike ether way

Not all scooters have CVT trans.

Not all CVT trans are in scooters.

What probably moreso defines (for most people) a scooter is that it has a step through frame. Though many of the small Honda motorbikes (cub and passport to name two) had more or less step through frames but are not generally considered to be a scooter.

And definitely not all scooters have CVT transmissions. Think of the Vespas (as late as 2005 model year), Lambrettas, and Genuine scooters---- these three plus many more makes\models have\had manual mulit-speed gearboxes.

And CVT's are not JUST fitted to scooters. A growing number of automobiles have CVT transmissions in them. A just one example until recently the MINI could be spec'd with a CVT trans.
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Old 10-04-2010, 03:26 AM   #3
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The criteria I use are step-through frame and a swingarm-mounted engine. Transmission, engine, wheel size, appearance, etc are all irrelevant.
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:31 AM   #4
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The criteria I use are step-through frame and a swingarm-mounted engine. Transmission, engine, wheel size, appearance, etc are all irrelevant.

That's how I tend to look at it.

The new CVT-equipped motorcycles are "automatic motorcycles", IMHO. Nothing wrong with that, just not a scoot in the traditional sense that I define--step through frame, swingarm-mounted engine.

(or something that started out that way )




I've even wondered about some of the scoots with the high stepover middle section--I've got hip issues and trying to drag a leg across something like that diminishes its problem-solving capability for me. Not complaining, just an observation at the difference between some older scoots I've had with flat floorboards and some newer designs.

I'm also surprised at what a total personality difference there is between the classic shifty scoots and the CVT's. Night and day difference, IMHO.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:44 AM   #5
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Its a motorcycle because Aprilia has been marketing it as a motorcycle for the last 2 years. They never mention the word scooter or advertise it with a mention of scooter buyers. The Aprilia website has it listed under motorcycles, not scooters.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:57 AM   #6
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Scooter or Motorcycle, doesn't matter what you call it. It is a kick-ass bike to ride!
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Old 10-06-2010, 05:47 PM   #7
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Scooter or Motorcycle, doesn't matter what you call it. It is a kick-ass bike to ride!
+ 1 on that!!!
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:57 AM   #8
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+ 1 on that!!!
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:20 AM   #9
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I love that thing, even more in the naked form.
Never had a ride on it though.. would love to hear some (more)
opinions.

I've been following the AF1 ApriliaForum closely for 2-3 years and
these seem to have less issues then Shiver/Dorsoduro stuff, but have
issues none the less.. and I value reliability the most on my bikes.
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