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Old 10-30-2010, 03:21 AM   #46
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Looking good. So you cut out the decal?
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:32 AM   #47
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Looking good. So you cut out the decal?
Depends on what you mean -- new decals or old decals? From a prior post:

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Notice the very delicate cuts along the border. I just wanted to give the clearcoat a weak point so that it would break without tearing. It's not really a cut but more of a scoring.
Basically, I'm just scoring the edges of the decal and then slowly working it off with heat and, now that I have the right product, 3M Adhesive Remover. You just have to get an edge of the old decal up so that you can ease it off with your fingers.

If you are talking about the new decals, the new decals are being cut on a plotter from black 3M ScotchCal, with the tank color showing through for the design. Also from a prior post:

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Just FYI on pricing. I'm going with the compass rose design with the "Ride the World" below. Graphics are going to be cut from 3M black vinyl with the orange of the tank showing through for the second color. We thought about doing a two color ink treatment, but the shop said that straight color vinyl is usually good for about 9 years in an external application, but ink on vinyl with a clear overlay is only good for about 4 years. Therefore, solid black vinyl sounded the best. Clear overlay of the original decal will just cover the original decal. Clear cover of the "Ride the World" part will cover the entire flat area and provide just a little extra protection to that painted area. The clear overlay is a 3M product -- not sure of the exact thickness yet. Clear overlay of the compass seems like the only viable option considering the numerous delicate pieces there and the fact that my leg is going to rub it continually.

My "ready for me to install" graphics are going to run me $150 with tax. That includes some cost of the computer work needed to make all of this happen. My guess is that the shop will want less for anyone who wants the same design that follows me in the endeavor. Also, dropping the "Ride the World" part or dropping the clear overlay will drive the cost down. I think the shop said that a straight black 3M cutout of the stock KTM decal part would be $80. But again, this cost included the shop's recovery for the computer work. Just cutting the design from straight black 3M product once the design is in the computer may be much less.

Does that answer your question?
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:29 AM   #48
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After the decals are removed and the glue is cleaned off what does the paint look like? Maybe some of us could just remove the decal and wax the tank and be done with it? That is if you like alot of Orange!
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:33 AM   #49
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Yeah what is underneath the decal? This is an interesting thread.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:58 PM   #50
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Reading comprehension?

Re-read post 27.
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:32 PM   #51
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Good work! I like the way you've gone into the details and care. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:04 PM   #52
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Good work! I like the way you've gone into the details and care. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Thanks! I've pilfered more ideas and inspiration from this site than anyone has a right to, so I'm just glad to give back in some small way.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:14 PM   #53
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Reading comprehension?

Re-read post 27.
Yep, post 27 - last picture. Below the tank is an orange seal coat (like a primer) that is then covered with a thin layer of the funky orange metallic without any clear coat. The funky orange looks to me like the first layer of the two-step paint systems often used on new cars these days.

Don't think that the metallic will hold up that long without some protection of some kind. It needs something like a decal or a new layer of clear. Another option would be to tape off the good area (where the decal wasn't) and paint where the decal was with high quality automotive paint (probably would require use of a flex agent in the paint as well -- the stuff they use in paint that goes on plastic bumpers).

After considering paint, I opted for renewal decals so that I could change the design going forward.

For what it's worth.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:19 PM   #54
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They're here!!!!

Graphics are in! Tomorrow's the day!


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Old 11-10-2010, 08:17 PM   #55
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:19 AM   #56
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Great job!

Can I offer a wee bit of friendly advice as someone who has a little experience with applying this kind of decal?

Take a spray bottle (window cleaner or something), empty out the something and put in a squirt of liquid hand soap such as you'd find in any toilet.

Then fill it with water and give it a shake.

Make sure that the sides of the tank are very clean and dry with a soft non-moulting cloth and then give a little spray from the soap-mix bottle before applying the new decals.

This will allow you to slide the stickers around on the surface of the tank.

Also get one of these soft plastic/rubber application tools to smooth it out with, the place you printed the graphics will certainly carry them:



This will allow you to really get out every bubble and make sure that the graphics are applied perfectly without damaging the surface.

The slightly soapy water will dry out 100% in a day or so and will not affect the stickers' grip on the bike, but it will allow you to put it in place badly and then slide it exactly where you would like it to be rather then pulling it off, sticking it on, pulling it off, stretching it a little each time, risking ripping it and so on.

Good luck, looking forward to seeing the final job!

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Old 11-11-2010, 07:40 AM   #57
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such as you'd find in any toilet.
He means "bathroom" for the USAians in here.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:42 AM   #58
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:26 AM   #59
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He means "bathroom" for the USAians in here.
Why is it called a bathroom if there is no bath in there??
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If the room is the toilet, what do you call the toilet itself?
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