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Old 10-31-2010, 07:57 PM   #46
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dirt cheap purchase price, cop motor, and the suspension gets changed anyway in this example.
I didnt realize the motor was different?
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:30 PM   #47
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Right around 12" of travel on the forks. No clearance/bottoming issues with a 21" rim.

First day out riding. Full compression test


The challenge with using the mx/usd spec forks will be matching the rear shock length/height to front height. I have the forks as high as they will go in the clamps ie the front is as low as possible. With a 12" (eye to eye) long shock, it is still a bit wheelie happy. I will get the longest shock possible that will not put the swingarm/chain geometry at an extreme angle.
How is your quest for a rear shock going?

I see you are not using a cush drive on the rear wheel. Are you happy wiht that set up on the street?
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:34 PM   #48
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dirt cheap purchase price, cop motor, and the suspension gets changed anyway in this example.
Cop motor? What's a cop motor?

The only differences I can see between the Ninja and Versys engines are the compression ratio, cams and color. My Versys engine is black. The ECU is probably a little different. Not sure, but I just purchased the correct one for my engine anyway.

I bought a Versys engine for my project because I got it cheap and I wanted the better midrange torque. Got it for $699. Shipping was killer at $150 from New England but you'll have that. With having purchased almost everything needed for the conversion, I have just over $1100 in it, so far. I'll probably spring for the 2010 black engine covers and the 2010 rubber mounts and bolts.

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Old 11-03-2010, 03:08 AM   #49
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How is your quest for a rear shock going?

I see you are not using a cush drive on the rear wheel. Are you happy wiht that set up on the street?
The 18" rear wheel has a cush drive from a 2k ktm 640e.

Shock is yet to be ordered.

The bike is great on the street, just returned from 2 month, 6k mile trip with several 5-7 hundred mile days.



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How's the mutation going
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:05 AM   #50
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Cop motor? What's a cop motor?
the Versys version of this 650 engine is the detuned sportbike motor. it makes less horsepower and torque mainly because of lower compression and the different cams. the ECUs have the same part number but may be mapped differently. the engines appear identical, top end internals are different.

i would rather build a bike around the sportbike motor, it's the higher performance "cop" motor.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:40 AM   #51
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Cop motor? What's a cop motor? ....
Blues Brothers reference?
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:17 AM   #52
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great thread

love this...

have you guys that have completed mutants put any on a scale?
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:13 PM   #53
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the Versys version of this 650 engine is the detuned sportbike motor. it makes less horsepower and torque mainly because of lower compression and the different cams. the ECUs have the same part number but may be mapped differently. the engines appear identical, top end internals are different.

i would rather build a bike around the sportbike motor, it's the higher performance "cop" motor.
How much horsepower does the Ninija engine make? Is it that much?

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Blues Brothers reference?
Never saw it! Didn't get it.

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Old 11-03-2010, 04:31 PM   #54
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love this...

have you guys that have completed mutants put any on a scale?
Yes, 350lbs without gas before I put on the luggage racks.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:48 PM   #55
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How's the mutation going[/quote]

I have been spending alot of time on ebay looking for parts. Also have been staring at the bike alot. I like the raw look of the Triumph back end. I am going to try to eliminate the stock inner fender and the big red thighs.

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Old 11-07-2010, 08:22 PM   #56
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Never saw it! Didn't get it.

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Old 11-07-2010, 08:24 PM   #57
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Sorry. Back on topic....

Are there any pics of the mounts for the PIAA's on that red bike?
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:17 PM   #58
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Sorry. Back on topic....

Are there any pics of the mounts for the PIAA's on that red bike?
jdrocks has a build thread for his bike somewhere, maybe he can direct you.
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Old 11-09-2010, 05:56 AM   #59
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come on you guys are missing the best part of this thread so far, the pegs! way to go, please describe what you're doing there. pegs/shifter, brake pedal. 7 inches forward sounds great. I did some comparisons of the peg/handlebar position. Standing on a stock ninja is a problem. The pegs are 8 inches too far back and a little high in comparison to a ktm dirtbike.

i was going to start with vf500 peg/shifter just by looking at ebay pics but it looks like you already have a start on a bell-crank shifter off of something....
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:07 PM   #60
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I should have the both pegs, shifter and brake pedal all mounted by the weekend. I'll post some more pics and details then.
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