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Old 10-28-2010, 01:46 PM   #76
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Like most of their bikes
That's how Honda maintains their position as the top selling Japanese marque year after year, with the flop.

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Old 10-28-2010, 02:12 PM   #77
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Cool little bike. Likely to be too expensive...but cool. Even if price was equal, I'd probably go for the Kawasaki because of the twin vs. single. I guess if I absolutely had to have ABS in a tiny motorcyle this would be the one. That seems like a pretty small niche market to me though.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:14 PM   #78
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Cool little bike. Likely to be too expensive...but cool. Even if price was equal, I'd probably go for the Kawasaki because of the twin vs. single. I guess if I absolutely had to have ABS in a tiny motorcyle this would be the one. That seems like a pretty small niche market to me though.
It's a lot bigger market since the Buell Blast went away.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:18 PM   #79
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I like it. Glad to see Honda is sending them to the US, should be a good seller for them.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:27 PM   #80
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It seems like a lot of people are still getting used to the idea of publishing curb weights. The 250 Ninja is over 370 lbs.
And a CBR600RR is 410 lbs.

I like it, but as others have said it should have been a twin to compete with the Ninja 250.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:31 PM   #81
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And a CBR600RR is 410lbs
EXACTLY!!!
With physically waaaay bigger engine, way bigger wheels, bigger tank, more plastic, brakes, forks......exhaust.....oh, no....wait on that last one! Lol
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:33 PM   #82
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And a CBR600RR is 410 lbs.

I like it, but as others have said it should have been a twin to compete with the Ninja 250.
I am a relative noob to street bikes, but I don't quite understand the above statement. Why should the Honda have been a twin? I have a Ninja 250R that is a twin, and my other bike is a WR250X single... and from my butt dyno, the WRX will smoke my Ninja in acceleration, and it also cruises better above 60mph. So why can't this CBR250R be similar to my WR250X's motor?
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:33 PM   #83
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:36 PM   #84
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I think Kawasaki sells more Ninja 250R's than any other bike in their line. Lots of people buy these small bikes, especially beginners, and maybe Honda wants to tap into that market. Not every young kid (or squid wanna-be) lusts after R6's. Seems like most of the guys around here riding those bikes don't even use a 25% of what the bike is capable of because you simply can't on the streets, unless you want hassled by the law, or worse, killing yourself.
Agreed......never implied the R6 was a "better" choice.......I'm just saying most kids would go for the R6. I don't care if Kawasaki sells more 250's......ever peruse CL looking for one......their all "woman owned, first bike"
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:37 PM   #85
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A 250cc single with Honda reliability. Whats not to like.

Although I doubt I'm in the market as my 250cc scooter is a more rational commuter for my commute. If I ever get tired of the Buell I'd give the Honda a look.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:39 PM   #86
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Agreed......never implied the R6 was a "better" choice.......I'm just saying most kids would go for the R6. I don't care if Kawasaki sells more 250's......ever peruse CL looking for one......their all "woman owned, first bike"
Are you saying more women buy 250R's than men? I highly doubt it. Maybe you see more "woman owned, first bike" ads because a woman is more likely to buy a bike, not like riding it, and then sell it. Hopefully that doesn't come across the wrong way, but I'm sure it's true. You see WAY more men riding motorcycles in general than women.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:56 PM   #87
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Feck I hope that this ushers in an era of importing the great small cc Jap bikes.*crosses fingers* C'mon Honda!!!

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Old 10-28-2010, 03:16 PM   #88
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You guys keep talking about entry bikers; but, I see it as being well positioned for commuters. FI for easy starting in the morning and ABS, which even those who dislike it will generally agree is a good option to have for all weather commuting.

As far as the power, It will probably travel at real commuting speeds (which, contrary to the day dreams, are not 100+ mph). FI, ABS, and enough body work to reduce wind fatigue, it looks well positioned for the commuter market. The only issue that remains is pricing. I hope Honda realizes that they need to get a new generation of riders so that they can enjoy the benefits of the brand loyalty that they have had in the past.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:10 PM   #89
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You guys keep talking about entry bikers; but, I see it as being well positioned for commuters. FI for easy starting in the morning and ABS, which even those who dislike it will generally agree is a good option to have for all weather commuting.

As far as the power, It will probably travel at real commuting speeds (which, contrary to the day dreams, are not 100+ mph). FI, ABS, and enough body work to reduce wind fatigue, it looks well positioned for the commuter market. The only issue that remains is pricing. I hope Honda realizes that they need to get a new generation of riders so that they can enjoy the benefits of the brand loyalty that they have had in the past.
This is true. I would think a modern design like this should be able to get a 70-75 mpg, and with weather protection would be a much better commuter than my Nighthawk 250.....
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:54 PM   #90
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I've been one to widely criticize American Honda for conservative and bland product strategies, but they deserve a lot of credit for this gutsey move. I'm not groking the single vs. the twin, but let's wait and see how this thing reviews - Ninjaette 180-parallel twins aren't exactly soul-stiring and the single may give it some needed character and be unique - how many single-cylinder sportbikes have we seen over on this side of the pond? And the ABS option and fuel injection are inspired product decisions.

Bravo to Honda. This could be a very cool bike and absolute gas to ride on a tight/twisty road. If they get an ABS model under $5K, it would be hard to resist.

Now Honda, how about that CB1100F?

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