Photos from Michaux SF Pennsylvania

[1Bonehead]

Originally Posted by TowPro

they don't have to catch you, they just ban ALL motorcycle on the stone roads, like they are getting ready to do in NJ.

This is what a lot of people don't get.
Post a video of an illegal act and get arrested for it and get everyone else banned because of one bad Apple

[turbojerk]

Originally Posted by TowPro

they don't have to catch you, they just ban ALL motorcycle on the stone roads, like they are getting ready to do in NJ.

I said "LoL"!!

Didn't pick up on the Dukes Of Hazzard theam there I suppose...

[turbojerk]

From my experience they will do what the wanna do anyway...

[birds]

I'm glad I found this thread.

I've hiked in this area and I've wanted to come back and ride there. I'm thinking about a little camping and riding here next weekend.

Any suggestions on camping in the area?

[Paebr332]

Originally Posted by birds

I'm glad I found this thread.

I've hiked in this area and I've wanted to come back and ride there. I'm thinking about a little camping and riding here next weekend.

Any suggestions on camping in the area?

You can camp at Caledonia State Park if you are looking for "organized" camping. There are also small designated camping areas at the Big Flat parking lot to the AT, at the Piney Mountain parking area at the north end of Piney Mountain Ridge Road, at Whispering Pines off District Road and at Birchtree Ridge off of Woodrow Road.

Primitive backpack camping is permitted anywhere in Michaux. You need a free permit if you stay more than one night at the same backpack campsite.

[TowPro]

Originally Posted by turbojerk

I said "LoL"!!

Didn't pick up on the Dukes Of Hazzard theam there I suppose...

I understand. But this thread has a large following, some don't know to keep off the ATV ONLY trails, and then there are active participants here that are known by DCNR and have positive relationships with them.

Its good to put a reminder out here every once and a while :).

I think the term is "policing our ranks together" (through education).

Motorcycles are only allowed on roads open to the public.
ATV's are only allowed on ATV trails.
In PA, An ATV is a device with 4 or more wheels.

[turbojerk]

Originally Posted by TowPro

I understand. But this thread has a large following, some don't know to keep off the ATV ONLY trails, and then there are active participants here that are known by DCNR and have positive relationships with them.

Its good to put a reminder out here every once and a while :).

I think the term is "policing our ranks together" (through education).

Motorcycles are only allowed on roads open to the public.
ATV's are only allowed on ATV trails.
In PA, An ATV is a device with 4 or more wheels.

Thats why I asked the question in the first place!

Just FYI, I've owned a 4-wheeler (or 3-wheeler) since I was 10 y.o.

BTW,... 3-wheelers aren't alowed any more???

[birds]

Originally Posted by Paebr332

You can camp at Caledonia State Park if you are looking for "organized" camping. There are also small designated camping areas at the Big Flat parking lot to the AT, at the Piney Mountain parking area at the north end of Piney Mountain Ridge Road, at Whispering Pines off District Road and at Birchtree Ridge off of Woodrow Road.

Primitive backpack camping is permitted anywhere in Michaux. You need a free permit if you stay more than one night at the same backpack campsite.

Thanks for the info. I'm really looking forward to it. Not many chances for legitimate primitive camping for me.

[TowPro]

Originally Posted by turbojerk

Thats why I asked the question in the first place!

My response was NOT directed at you. Just reminding others reading this thread that Motorcycles are not allowed on the PA State Forest ATV trails. (you need to turn on PM's )

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms.../chapter77.pdf
7702. Definitions.
The following words and phrases when used in this chapter shall have, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the meanings given to them in this section:
"All-terrain vehicle" or "ATV." A motorized off-highway vehicle which travels on three or more inflatable tires and which has:
(1) a maximum width of 50 inches and a maximum dry weight of 1,000 pounds; or
(2) a width which exceeds 50 inches or a dry weight which exceeds 1,000 pounds.
ATV's described in paragraph (1) may be referred to as Class I ATV's, and ATV's described in paragraph (2) may be referred to as Class II ATV's. This term does not include snowmobiles, trail bikes, motorboats, golf carts, aircraft, dune buggies, automobiles, construction machines, trucks or home utility machines; military, fire, emergency and

[turbojerk]

Originally Posted by TowPro

My response was NOT directed at you. Just reminding others reading this thread that Motorcycles are not allowed on the PA State Forest ATV trails. (you need to turn on PM's )

It’s all good,…I know… I was just stating my reason for the question… As tempted as I was (and probably others before me) to just turn down that trail head I knew in the back of my mind that for some reason unknown to me at the time it was a no-no! Not sure why exactly but I just figured from past experiences….

My first experience ATVing there was kind of a buzz kill… We all got treated like criminals in the parking lot while loading up even though we all had our temp stickers on our quads… That was WAY back in the late 90’s though… Hopefully that type of treatment has all changed for the better! Haven’t been back ATVing since….

[Kidicarus]

Originally Posted by TowPro

In PA, An ATV is a device with 4 or more wheels.

So, what if i attached training wheels to my bike?

Disclaimer:
BTW, I am in no way serious!!

[turbojerk]

Originally Posted by Kidicarus

So, what if i attached training wheels to my bike?

Disclaimer:
BTW, I am in no way serious!!

"Technically" according to the rules you only need to attach one training wheel!

BTW, I am in no way serious either....

[TowPro]

Originally Posted by Kidicarus

So, what if i attached training wheels to my bike?

Disclaimer:
BTW, I am in no way serious!!

Check the link above. It goes on to talk about low pressure tires and stuff like that.

[Kidicarus]

The definition for "low pressure tire" was deleted according to the site. So technically a dirt bike, since it doesn't fall under the "vehicle that must be or is required to be registered" statement, with pneumatic training wheels would qualify as an ATV. With enough money and the right lawyer anything is legal. I have neither, but it could be argued since they created such large loopholes. They would probably slap you with some other b.s. charges and ban all bikes anyways, but i'm just saying it doesn't completely exclude them.

[Denny Mann]

Action speaks louder than forums. How many of you that are complaining about motorcycles on state forest's belong to the Pennsylvania Off Highway Vehicles Association? The PaOHV Executive Director, Dick Lepley has a meeting the end of this month with the Director of Pennsylvania DCNR. Unlike the DCNR he doesn't have the time to read complaints on forums. He relies on the membership to keep him up on issues such as the problems with 7 Mountains Dual Sport and Shade Mountain Trail Systems. Go to www.PaOHV.org and join or waist your time complaining on forums.