New Honda 1200 V4 CrossTourer!!!

[Sock Monkey]

Originally Posted by GrahamD

But work within the suspension parameters and I think you have a fine machine for most people. Especially the Starbucks crowd. But they are riding an image not a bike. People who do real riding will be well served,

+1

I wonder what it would take to upgrade the stock suspenders to something more suitable for a thrashing off-road? Moot point until (if) Honda USA ever pulls their head from their arse, but it's an interesting mental exercise.

Originally Posted by GrahamD

The XTourer seems to me to be a lot better "UJM" than the CB. It's definitely got more U. Honda USA seem a bit clueless. Either that or they do know their customers and people on here are not "normal".

I think "not normal" is the "normal" here , and indeed Honda USA are clueless gits. They got burned back in the late 80's when they imported the Transalp here (for a whopping 2 years!) and no one wanted that leviathan. But the market here has come full circle and people are realizing that specialized bikes are fine for those who have the garage space and can afford 3+ machines, but for the "1 bike family" a do-it-all steed makes a lot of sense. Now Honda USA is being muelish and refusing to import a bike that could be making them some $$$. Instead, they are importing a bike that will certainly sell (in their minds....if they sell 10 CBs in a year I'd be amazed) and leave the CT off the list ("those Americans didn't want a bike like that 20 years ago so certainly they don't want that now.....let's just ignore all the market data that says the adv-touring segment is the only one that's growing" ). I guess they figure they won't get fired if they don't make a lot of money, but they WILL get fired if they lose a bunch.....oh wait, they're gonna get canned for wasting the $$$ to homologate and import the CB! Imbeciles.....

-SM

[johnny_on_the_spot]

Originally Posted by droid

hoping to sort out the touchy throttle although most are not experienceing this snatchy throttle like i, so anyway hoping it makes a difference for me

the bike is apart and in the shed waiting for the new bits to arrive: K&N and an FRK performance module

peace out bros

Agreed, the throttle is "sprightly" to say the least! Looking to tone this down with some grip puppies.

They are in the post!

CHeers,

Johnny

[Carl Down Under]

Originally Posted by Moronic

Can't believe they skipped the electronic cruise control tho.

Hear, hear! I'm waiting and hoping that by the time I'm ready to buy they'll catch up with the new competition like Triumph and Aprilia who are all coming out with cruise. And switchable ABS would be nice.

[Two Plugs]

Originally Posted by Carl Down Under

Hear, hear! I'm waiting and hoping that by the time I'm ready to buy they'll catch up with the new competition like Triumph and Aprilia who are all coming out with cruise. And switchable ABS would be nice.

Well... Honda has a reputation of not listening to its (potential) custommers, so I wouldn't put money on that one...

For the Q of replacing suspension vv costs...

I did the trick on the Varadero and the job on the CT doesn't look to much alien from the XL1000V:

- Fully adjustable rear shock unit + 2 progressive front fork springs incl oil / labour € 1.100,- incl 21% VAT.

Prices elsewhere on the planet must be cheaper than where I live (The Netherlands - the far most expensive country in Europe...)

Just to give you an idea.

[sweetlu]

I was at my local Honda dealer today, and he indicated that Honda is suppose to release three new models in February. He hopes its the new Xtourer, but said most likely Honda will price it around $20K

[sleepyOwl]

Originally Posted by sweetlu

I was at my local Honda dealer today, and he indicated that Honda is suppose to release three new models in February. He hopes its the new Xtourer, but said most likely Honda will price it around $20K

Possibly talking about the three variants of the 2013 500's?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ew-honda-500s/

[RedRocket]

Originally Posted by displacedScot

Possibly talking about the three variants of the 2013 500's?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ew-honda-500s/

Didn't I already sit on a CB500 today at the new bike show?

[eakins]

Originally Posted by displacedScot

Possibly talking about the three variants of the 2013 500's?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ew-honda-500s/

that's old news on different bikes.

[eakins]

Originally Posted by sweetlu

I was at my local Honda dealer today, and he indicated that Honda is suppose to release three new models in February. He hopes its the new Xtourer, but said most likely Honda will price it around $20K

when he said Honda was we referring to corporate as in brand new models or just Honda NA referring to new models now being sold in the US?

if it's brand new models, the updated ST/Pan euro is to be built on this same platform so that could be 1 of them.

[3B43]

A friend of mine owns a m/c shop...Kawasaki & Susuki. I was lusting for a new bike and the only one that wetted my lust was the Ducati MTS. I told him that if one of the 4 major company's made something I wanted, I'd buy it...a MTS 'clone', but a GSXR/R1/etc. A R1, with hard bags/ up right riding position/etc would be a GREAT bike, but they won't build if, or if they do, it'll be 2-3 yrs too late. He said 'they' don't do things that way and take years to introduce something new.

[twinrider]

Originally Posted by 3B43

A R1, with hard bags/ up right riding position/etc would be a GREAT bike, but they won't build if, or if they do, it'll be 2-3 yrs too late. He said 'they' don't do things that way and take years to introduce something new.

Yamaha's been building it for years, it's called the FZ-1.

[sweetlu]

Originally Posted by eakins

when he said Honda was we referring to corporate as in brand new models or just Honda NA referring to new models now being sold in the US?

if it's brand new models, the updated ST/Pan euro is to be built on this same platform so that could be 1 of them.

Honda US, he knew about the releases last month as we were talking about the CB1100. In addition, he did mentioned about the upcoming update to the ST1300.

[3B43]

I had an '08 FZ1 and put 25000 miles on it in 2.5 yrs, but it does not have when suspension, brakes AND motor of an R1! I put an Ohlin on the rear, Givi V35's + a host of other changes. It's a hell'eva bike for the $$$, but.....I'd be happy to pay the extra $$$ for the up grade in brakes/suspension and motor. I sold it 4 months ago, to a good friend of mine, and bought the bike I'd been lusting for....a Ducati MTS!

[twinrider]

A couple friends of mine who own FZ1s just bought those parts from wrecked R1s and swapped them in.

[RocketJohn]

Honda should bring in an ST with the 1200 VFR motor and the DCT transmission. They have already reduced the ridiculous amount of cruiser models.

But yes, the CrossTourer should be imported here...