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Old 11-10-2010, 03:29 PM   #211
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I think the New Honda looks good. It looks to have a longer wheel base than the Super Tenere and it has much smoother lines. I hope it holds more fuel than the Super Tenere. Being a current BMW owner I don't like the single sided swing arm, I like the double sided swing arm of the Super Tenere. I think it offers much more strenth and better bearing support. I like Honda's wind shield being closer to the rider, should be less buffeting. I don't much care for the side opening bags. I like the top opening panniers on my R1150 GSA bags. I will not ever consider the Honda if it does not have a standard tranny, I don't think a automatic would hold up to real world off road applications and Honda is fitting this bike into the ADV market, some of us do use them that way. I also hope Honda does not wait to produce this bike as this market is still small enough to get a good foot and following into it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:27 PM   #212
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I love it! I think it looks great, good job Honda. I loved the VFR1200 when it came out and wished they put that engine in an adventure tourer! A go anywhere bike with POWER! Wish granted . I didn't like the S10 styling as much when it came out though I have warmed to that one. Looks great in the flesh. I've loved the GSA since it came out but couldn't understand why other manufacturers were not jumping on the bandwagon. Finally! I don't mind sacrificing a bit of weight for more power, but that'll be an important point for this bike to manage in this market I think. Hopefully they do as good a job as the S10 in keeping the center of gravity low. Hmmm, looking forward to my first large adventure tourer. It was the GSA, now its the S10, maybe it could be the Crosstourer if Honda don't take too long to bring it out (if they do at all). The auto gearbox could work in the dirt, interesting, don't know?
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:46 AM   #213
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Yesterday's MCN (Motor Cycle News) was FULL with details and info's regarding the new CT. What a machine...

They state: "Crosstourer heads Honda revival - The new V4 adventure bike from Honda marks Honda's return to form as they reveal nine new bikes at the Milan Show"

That does sound very, very positive. Haven't been able to read the full article yet, but for the parts I have done future looks very promising for the Honda Company (which was about time...!)

Note: Honda Netherlands just started a campaign to gather the public / customer opinion regarding which path they should take with an on-line inquiry. Also a clear sign that finally something is changing at Honda HQ!

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...n-november-10/
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:37 AM   #214
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Yesterday's MCN (Motor Cycle News) was FULL with details and info's regarding the new CT. What a machine...

They state: "Crosstourer heads Honda revival - The new V4 adventure bike from Honda marks Honda's return to form as they reveal nine new bikes at the Milan Show"

That does sound very, very positive. Haven't been able to read the full article yet, but for the parts I have done future looks very promising for the Honda Company (which was about time...!)

Note: Honda Netherlands just started a campaign to gather the public / customer opinion regarding which path they should take with an on-line inquiry. Also a clear sign that finally something is changing at Honda HQ!

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...n-november-10/
A single sided swingarm with shaft drive? Will Honda get it right, or will BMW and Honda riders be sitting at the same table, sipping latte's and agonizing over final drive issues?
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:31 AM   #215
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Is there any particular reason why the sole XTourer thread is in Beasts? The utility of an 800cc dual-purpose bikes on various types of dirt can be - and is - endlessly debated here. XRunner, Mini-Tiger, etc.

The 1050 Tiger, arguably a so-so/decent dirt bike, is usually discussed in Road Warriors. the 800cc mini-Tiger and XRunner are there, too.

I would respectfully argue that the XTourer likely won't be as successful as the 1050 Tiger in the dirt. Not that I can prove this point yet - but it can't be demonstrably proven wrong yet, either. Until we get some demo rides, it's all speculation.

The XTourer is a closer relative to [and shares parts with] the VFR1200f, which clearly doesn't belong here. Also, I suspect that, for the vast majority of potential 1200cc XTourer buyers, dirt won't necessarily be the bikes' primary use - street riding in all of it's various forms, will much more likely be it's main use.

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It might share parts but this is an adventure touring bike. I like this home for it.
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:32 AM   #216
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A single sided swingarm with shaft drive? Will Honda get it right, or will BMW and Honda riders be sitting at the same table, sipping latte's and agonizing over final drive issues?
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:44 AM   #217
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Is there any particular reason why the sole XTourer thread is in Beasts?
Well they try to steal a grane from the real deal XT ?

Although i think its more of a CT (scan) instead, way to overengeneered, would not wonder me if it follow the roadsigns without rider assistance too ? :-)
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:55 AM   #218
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Well they try to steal a grane from the real deal XT ?

Although i think its more of a CT (scan) instead, way to overengeneered, would not wonder me if it follow the roadsigns without rider assistance too ? :-)
So the new S10 isn't 'over-engineered'?

Ah, that explains the fact that it (S10) hasn’t become the sales figures for which Yamaha hoped for…

(must admit that this puzzles me too… I still like the S10 but I’m honest enough to admit that I will be waiting another year to try the CT in the flesh first…)
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:07 AM   #219
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[COLOR=#cdcdcd]Ah, that explains the fact that it (S10) hasn’t become the sales figures for which Yamaha hoped for… (must admit that this puzzles me too… I still like the S10 but I’m honest enough to admit that I will be waiting another year to try the CT in the flesh first…
Have to say, there is a lot of fan boi talk of the S10 in the US for something thalt weighs 575 lbs and few here have ridden.

I expected the new 800's to be where the real adventure bike action was going to be, with the Triumph and Honda added to the BMW choices.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:16 AM   #220
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So the new S10 isn't 'over-engineered'?
Nope, they just have taken true en tested components instead of going for the heavy and troubleprone single sided arm, and boy what a stability and clean ride it delivers that 60cm long reararm.

No Can-Bus dificulties, even the TC ABS Drive-by-Wire System is a relatively simple affair, tried and trusted single wet clutch, if you would break down a Capadocian smith could mend most things imho.

Although we do not know yet anything about durability, because no one has done more than 15K with it yet i think.

But i can understand yor lust for the Honda it's queer, but certainly better looking than the S10. But a V4 in the dirt seems to me an odd-choice, the FZ experiment from Yamaha dug itself in way to fast :-)
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:34 AM   #221
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N//if you would break down a Capadocian smith could mend most things i//
Cappadocian. We would be more inclined to say Hittite.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:34 AM   #222
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But a V4 in the dirt seems to me an odd-choice, the FZ experiment from Yamaha dug itself in way to fast :-)
Agree on that, R3B. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the current 996 cc Ltwin from the Varadero...

We have to wait and see what we'll get in apr one year from now...
A 'Goldwing' with and dirt bike steeringbar, or a proper big trail adventure bike with an suprisingly manouvrebility... Besides that, Triumph proved in 1994 that an tripple cylinder engine and an big trail bike are an good combination with their MK1 Tiger 900...
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:13 AM   #223
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I'm hoping that the XTourer will be at the NEC show this month. I have my ticket, so hopefully i'll be able to get up close and personal.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:29 AM   #224
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I'm hoping that the XTourer will be at the NEC show this month. I have my ticket, so hopefully i'll be able to get up close and personal.
rool: IF so, pics! pics!! PICS!! Please!
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rool: IF so, pics! pics!! PICS!! Please!
Agree!!!!
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